Who does Butch hire to beat bama?

No one. They're basically unbeatable. You just hope they shoot themselves in the foot, and then must play near perfect. Only then you win.

As long as we play bama every year, we will almost never win the East.
 
:cray:The injury excuse is played out. All teams have them.

Ohio State plays as many freshman. Every team is beat up right now except florida. It's part of the game. I can understand a loss. We half expected it...but that wasn't a loss...that was a embarrassment of football.
 
I don't even have words for what that was...there are no words. That was a life changing event. A lot of things changed yesterday for a lot of people.
 
:cray:The injury excuse is played out. All teams have them.

Really? Ok how about name all of the starters Alabama had injured for our game. I will wait.

I want to ask an honest question. No real discussion, just either a yes or no. Do injuries to starters have anything to do with the outcome of a game?
 
We could have all handled a loss. That's not the problem. That was an epic embarassment that UT has never experienced before. That was NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE.
 
True. Freeze is about the only argument. When he hasn't won they have been in a place to in the last 3 years.

UT is not beating them at all and that's not changing anytime soon.

Freeze just can't beat other teams he should beat. Probably too much focus on Alabama.
 
Whoever it is we better get them hired before Alabama does because I doubt Kiffin will be at Bama next year. Although his nice pay increase may keep him picky about where he goes.
 
Has Freeze ever played Bama with as many injuries as we have?

No.

And I find it interesting that folks who complain about the records CBJ has would be high on Freeze. He is 37-21 at this point and 18-17 in the SEC.

Yes some will say he has a harder time because he coaches in the west, but he is 0-3 against the east champions in the three years he played against them in the regular season (losses to Florida, Georgia and Missouri) and 5-4 against the east teams in his tenure thus far. The other loss is to Vandy.

He is not at the same level as Saban no matter what folks think.
 
Ohio State plays as many freshman. Every team is beat up right now except florida. It's part of the game. I can understand a loss. We half expected it...but that wasn't a loss...that was a embarrassment of football.

Beat up is different than should be starters not playing.
 
Whoever it is we better get them hired before Alabama does because I doubt Kiffin will be at Bama next year. Although his nice pay increase may keep him picky about where he goes.

Kiffin will get another chance at a head coach. Will fail again and go to another school as an OC. He is a coordinator not a head coach.
 
I love Butch. I do. He's probably one of the most upstanding and better life coaches in the country. He's invited to my dinner table any day of the week unannounced. That's not the job. The job is to smash Alabama. That's the job. That's what the money is for, that's what the lifestyle is for, that's what the perks are for. That's the job. Beat Alabama. That's what you are here for.

And I thought the job was to beat Florida.
 

I don't consider 2 wins out of 5 times to be consistent. And when you follow the two wins with 7 other losses not sure the "wins" got your anywhere - except to be able to say you beat Bama.

So would you really be satisfied with beating Bama but losing 3/4 other games in that same year?
 

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