who do you think shot jfk?

[OrangeEmpire]

It does make you wonder........

 

[OrangeEmpire]

 

[vols kick balls]

i can kind of see a guy there but its so hard to tell if someone has altered any of the photos now.i saw an unaltered photo and it just looked like a shadow from the leaves. so im not sure about that one

 

[vols kick balls]

Skeptics have argued that expert marksmen could not duplicate Oswald's alleged feat in their first try during reenactments by the Warren Commission (1964) and CBS (1967). In those tests the marksmen were attempting to hit the target three times within 4.5 seconds; however, the use of this time span has been heavily disputed and modern analysis of a digitally enhanced Zapruder film has suggested the first and final shots may have come as much as 8.4 seconds apart. Moreover, many of CBS's 11 volunteer marksmen, who (unlike Oswald) had no prior experience with a Mannlicher-Carcano, were able to hit the test target three times in well under the time allotted.

even if he could get those shots off how do you account the other bullets found there. one was found in the winshield of a car. one in the dashboard of another car. one hit the curb of the street and a piece of concrete went up and hit a man in the face near the tripple overpass (first bullet fired by warren commision). those other two shots dont exist acording to the warren report.

 

[hatvol96]

even if he could get those shots off how do you account the other bullets found there. one was found in the winshield of a car. one in the dashboard of another car. one hit the curb of the street and a piece of concrete went up and hit a man in the face near the tripple overpass (first bullet fired by warren commision). those other two shots dont exist acording to the warren report.

Agreeing with the Warren Commission and saying Oswald was the shooter are two separate issues. One can dispute the how the Comision reached its decision and still concur with its conclusion.

 

[vols kick balls]

Agreeing with the Warren Commission and saying Oswald was the shooter are two separate issues. One can dispute the how the Comision reached its decision and still concur with its conclusion.

yeah but even if oswald could get 3 shots off what about the other two. there is no way in hell he could get five off

 

[hatvol96]

Conspiracies are like martians. You can't convince someone who believes in them that they don't exist. It's impossible to prove a negative.

 

[Lexvol]

Conspiracies are like martians. You can't convince someone who believes in them that they don't exist. It's impossible to prove a negative.

Hat your user name should be "analogyman96".

 

[vols kick balls]

Conspiracies are like martians. You can't convince someone who believes in them that they don't exist. It's impossible to prove a negative.

i aggree with that. im still not sure if i believe it was a conspericy or not. but you have to admit that there are some wierd cercummstances about this.

 

[WA_Vol]

The best case I heard for an alternate theory was presented on the history channel. A retired engineer who was familiar with microscopic imagery from studying the material properties of steel did an analysis using this imagery to determine the trajectory of the bullet that killed Kennedy. His analysis which they showed with frame by frame detail, concluded that a shooter was in a manhole cover in the sidewalk and shot kennedy from that angle. That was the only possible explanation for the bullet trajectory. They also showed a man could crawl through the drainage tunnel from its exit to that point in about 45 minutes.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

Hatvol, why do you have to ruin a good conversation with reason and logic?

I mean really! You bum! :biggrin2:

 

[CSpindizzy]

What is the best way to cover your bases and pull something like this off successfully? Throw a buch of far-fetched scenarios out there to discredit the whole darned thing. Conspiracy theories are the greatest friends of conspiracies. Throw in some wild angles, several buildings to muffle the sounds, large crowd, several angles to shoot from, several sketchy types in key places, a patsy with a motive and background, etc. You have the best recipe to pull off the greatest crime.

 

[therealUT]

Does it really matter exactly who shot JFK, if we do not get to who was really behind it all? Oswald had extensive contact with both the Soviet gov't and the Cuban gov't, both gov'ts had more than enough motive to assassinate JFK.

However, I believe that the entity that had the greatest motive to kill JFK was Jack himself. Camelot was about to crumble, as Chicago's mafia boss was beginning to apply pressure to the Chicago Sun-Times to expose JFKs philandering. Vietnam was about to errupt. Although I do not agree with many of JFKs policies, I believe he was a smart enough man to see where the conflict in SE Asia was heading. I will qualify that statement by saying I do not believe he thought it would be the catastrophe it turned out to be, but he was a pacifist president (or one who believed diplomacy and under the table dealings always worked.) After being talked into the Bay of Pigs fiasco by his advisors, he was very hesitant to actually use military force anywhere. Finally, JFK lived in constant pain and was required to wear a back brace in order to stand up for any length of time. Finding an "honorable" escape and sealing up your legacy all in one shot, is not so much a terrible idea...

 

[Lexvol]

Does it really matter exactly who shot JFK,

I will qualify that statement by saying I do not believe he thought it would be the catastrophe it turned out to be, but he was a pacifist president (or one who believed diplomacy and under the table dealings always worked.)

All excellent points. How many college professors actually teach what happened during the Cuban Missle crisis in regards to our munitions in Turkey? I guess the MAD theory that his brilliant secretary of state developed needs no mention.

 

[therealUT]

All excellent points. How many college professors actually teach what happened during the Cuban Missle crisis in regards to our munitions in Turkey? I guess the MAD theory that his brilliant secretary of state developed needs no mention.

Well, if they teach that Nikita Krushchev stood down in Cuban only because we stood down in Turkey, then much of the brilliance of JFK is eliminated. I will credit JFK with NASA. I will not credit him the Civil Rights Act of 1964.