Where it all went wrong

[CA_Vol]

The OL should definitely take some heat for their play today no doubt, but an experienced qb has to know to protect the ball in those situations. Simply tuck it and take the sacks and it would still be a ballgame.

I worried that after the first turnover that JG was on the verge of imploding and sure enough he did. A different qb prolly isn't going to overcome the OL woes there but perhaps they wouldn't have provided Georgia with a full course meal.

Honestly, I think JG is a psych major precisely because he's a head case. He came out of high school a highly-rated "dual threat" QB that has routinely failed when it mattered the most. It is no wonder he might seek out a manner in which to at least understand, if not attempt to rectify, his mental inability to step up and meet the challenge. While he may have come to understand it, he certainly hasn't resolved it.

 

[Mccage]

I just know that I, for one, am glad that Fulmer put his little foot down on that Kiffin for OC nonsense. After all, Kiffin took Fulmer’s rightful job for life, remember? Imagine the horror of Kiffin spending a season or two at Tennessee running the offense before he snags a HC position.

Meanwhile, Fulmer is siphoning off some of that cash he was rightfully entitled to since he was unfairly fired before salaries went stratospheric.

I’m just glad this is working out so well.

Carry on.

WTF

 

[guido4198]

Once he fumbled, all confidence evaporated and he made a series of bad decisions. Fumbling is a cardinal sin for a QB and he did it three times. Plenty of QBs get sacked. Very few cough it up 3 times in 15 game minutes with an interception to boot. Mainly because they'd be on the bench. Shrout got benched last year for throwing to double coverage and it didn't even get intercepted. It's on Pruitt for keeping JG in there through the meltdown.

With 2 replacements sitting on the bench...JP left JG in the game and watched him ( JG) fall apart.
Did Pruitt panic...?? Was he frozen by fear..??
How much worse than JG are our back-up QB's that Pruitt couldn't pull Jarrett and give him an opportunity to regroup himself...??

 

[vol1981]

1. he's not my boy
2. im smart enough to know we are not on uga's level yet as a program
3. our starting LT is playing his way into shape from missing a lot of practice due to quarantine. cade just got ruled eligible so there's chemistry issues upfront

4. pruitt is building wisely, but some of you morons want overnight success.
5. winning bowl games is getting better recruits in and better players signing. trust the process

Was Cade initially ruled ineligible for games only or for practice and games?

 

[orangemadam]

There's a reason Ga. is ranked #3. It's not just on JG. We just aren't there yet. We still only have 3 or 4 players that would even be on Ga's two-deep chart.

Lighten up. We'll take a pounding from Ala. also so be prepared. It's not all on JG. We still have slow linebackers, an overrated secondary, and rb's that are weak in pass protect. Just keep recruiting.

 

[sechamp2012]

You can't be serious with this, right? Do you realize everything in the statement you're hot taking is determined pre-snap? So yes, he should be able to do those things without two or three defenders in his face because there are not two or three defenders in face. Good lord.

You can't expect a True Freshman to do any pre snap....he'd have to be a 5th year senior...... Oh wait....

 

[FLVOL_79]

Where it all went wrong? When JG was recruited as the nations top dual threat QB...

 

[cardvolfan]

that's not a JG issue, that's them knowing our wrs dont have that kind of speed.

there's issues he has like he doesnt come off reads as fast meaning he is still not completely familiar with the plays.

He is correct in that JG's limitations limit this offense.

 

[Rickyvol77]

JG’s interception. Okay... some of this has to fall on Chaney and Friend.

At the point when JG is supposed to release the ball we got a TE and a slot receiver running side-by-side 2 yards apart. Wanya Morris on his ass, 2 interior linemen blocking UGA’s NT and 2 untouched defenders in JG’s face.

Awful play.

We lost because:
-terrible 2nd half playcalling that highlighted our weaknesses as an offense
-defense tiring down because offense kept going 3 and out (or worse)
-JG returning to old JG in face of overwhelming panic and rush
-Kirby made better 2nd half adjustments and didn’t panic
-refs overlooking some BS (missed holding, PI, that illegal drawing our center by barking the cadence BS)
-Too many unforced penalties on Tennessee, that targeting hit was simply retarded
-Georgia is simply one of the best team in the country and has likely the best defense in the country. Tennessee needed a A- overall effort to beat them and got a B+ in 1st half and a D in the 2nd

 

[OrangeTsar]

Your boy JG stinks on ice

Oh no, please tell me he hasn’t taken up hockey too

 

[Gandalf]

LOL... predictable from some of you. JG did nothing wrong... it was everyone else's fault that he didn't protect the ball and made a stupid throw.

His turnovers changed the nature of this game. His other fumble gave UGA a shorter field.

But the biggest thing.... is that UGA didn't respect him. Even after he threw a couple of good balls, they didn't believe he could beat them throwing over the top. They kept playing downhill against the run game. They knew he doesn't anticipate well and wouldn't burn them when they blitzed.

Nothing new. His limitations limits the O... and costs UT games.

THIS - had JG seen when the line shifted and they came pouring at him up his left, rolled out to the right and scrambled for a first down just once or twice. If he had used their packing the box to drop 2 or 3 in a row over their heads for successful 30 yard gains. They would get some respect and the dogs up front would lay back on their heels and not come rushing in. Our OL sucked back then but teams FEARED Dobbs on wheels (though not in the air) - no team anywhere fears JG on land or air. Cant blame opposing teams tho, when you have a stationary target that will rarely go over your head, you are going to keep hammering it.

All of the above is not to excuse all the errors elsewhere, sloppiness all over the field, penalties, questionable plays and that the team basically gave up and had no heart in the 4th qtr.

 

[tnutater]

I just know that I, for one, am glad that Fulmer put his little foot down on that Kiffin for OC nonsense. After all, Kiffin took Fulmer’s rightful job for life, remember? Imagine the horror of Kiffin spending a season or two at Tennessee running the offense before he snags a HC position.

Meanwhile, Fulmer is siphoning off some of that cash he was rightfully entitled to since he was unfairly fired before salaries went stratospheric.

I’m just glad this is working out so well.

Carry on.

What a turn of events.

 

[sjt18]

who?

I know you've seen or participated in the conversations discussing the speed of guys like Jones, Keyton, Hyatt, et al. And fwiw, it doesn't take speed to get open deep. BYU has proven that for decades. But you have to have a good route runner and a QB who can place the ball correctly.

and to the second part, its Kiffin. Kiffin is better than chaney and we all know this. plus kiffin is very familiar with Saban's defense. Ole Miss has also recruited better, especially up front. was ole miss's starting left tackle out on quarantine for weeks? how about uncertainty of its starting left guard due to being a transfer needing clearance?

LOL... You just can't admit the truth can you. Corral is a MUCH better QB. Not just a little... A LOT.

nah, none of that matters unless its Maurer, right?

Well, that's either stupid or dishonest. I've consistently said that I did not care who the QB was as long as UT got QB play MUCH better than what we've seen from ANYONE in the last 3 years... now 4. I've criticized Maurer... and will more if he gets to play and doesn't improve. I don't know what he can do yet. He's played about 7 or 8 quarters in his UT career as a Fr. I hope he develops faster and better than JG has. If he can't... I hope that UT NEVER sees another point where the "best choice" is as ineffective as JG has been over his career.

I have the same hope for HB and Shrout. I LITERALLY do not care who starts... I just want a QB that scares D's... at least a little. UGA knew they could blitz JG and he wouldn't burn them. They didn't believe he could hit enough deep throws to beat them. From there... they played downhill, kept everything in front, and packed the box whenever they felt like it.

 

[sjt18]

THIS - had JG seen when the line shifted and they came pouring at him up his left, rolled out to the right and scrambled for a first down just once or twice. If he had used their packing the box to drop 2 or 3 in a row over their heads for successful 30 yard gains. They would get some respect and the dogs up front would lay back on their heels and not come rushing in. Our OL sucked back then but teams FEARED Dobbs on wheels (though not in the air) - no team anywhere fears JG on land or air. Cant blame opposing teams tho, when you have a stationary target that will rarely go over your head, you are going to keep hammering it.

All of the above is not to excuse all the errors elsewhere, sloppiness all over the field, penalties, questionable plays and that the team basically gave up and had no heart in the 4th qtr.

Amen.

I think JG is the key piece. I think he has been for a while. But a lot of guys on O should have played better.

 

[bpalmer28]

THIS - had JG seen when the line shifted and they came pouring at him up his left, rolled out to the right and scrambled for a first down just once or twice. If he had used their packing the box to drop 2 or 3 in a row over their heads for successful 30 yard gains. They would get some respect and the dogs up front would lay back on their heels and not come rushing in. Our OL sucked back then but teams FEARED Dobbs on wheels (though not in the air) - no team anywhere fears JG on land or air. Cant blame opposing teams tho, when you have a stationary target that will rarely go over your head, you are going to keep hammering it.

All of the above is not to excuse all the errors elsewhere, sloppiness all over the field, penalties, questionable plays and that the team basically gave up and had no heart in the 4th qtr.

I agree with all than. Just saying there’s more issues here than just JG. We should try playing another QB, imo, but given all the issues I’ve seen I wouldn’t expect them to have much more success.

 

[lexkyvol]

I know you've seen or participated in the conversations discussing the speed of guys like Jones, Keyton, Hyatt, et al. And fwiw, it doesn't take speed to get open deep. BYU has proven that for decades. But you have to have a good route runner and a QB who can place the ball correctly.

LOL... You just can't admit the truth can you. Corral is a MUCH better QB. Not just a little... A LOT.


Well, that's either stupid or dishonest. I've consistently said that I did not care who the QB was as long as UT got QB play MUCH better than what we've seen from ANYONE in the last 3 years... now 4. I've criticized Maurer... and will more if he gets to play and doesn't improve. I don't know what he can do yet. He's played about 7 or 8 quarters in his UT career as a Fr. I hope he develops faster and better than JG has. If he can't... I hope that UT NEVER sees another point where the "best choice" is as ineffective as JG has been over his career.

I have the same hope for HB and Shrout. I LITERALLY do not care who starts... I just want a QB that scares D's... at least a little. UGA knew they could blitz JG and he wouldn't burn them. They didn't believe he could hit enough deep throws to beat them. From there... they played downhill, kept everything in front, and packed the box whenever they felt like it.

Dufus, is BYU in the SEC?

And that is a blatant lie on the QB part with you. you have been second only to 1vol8 for Maurer. and no, ur hope is not. its what u want folk to think because u try and play both sides, but ur history shows clearly u want BM to start despite what he does wrong. u've argued and argued against his flaws with excuses.

 

[lexkyvol]

Was Cade initially ruled ineligible for games only or for practice and games?

games. so in the first 2 games, another person practiced at that spot with the first team so we could go 2=0 because there was so much uncertainty about mays immediate future. is he the better player, sure. so the oline coach and the staff made a long term decision saturday and started him so that down the stretch the okine could gel and be a force. sacrifice one game for more wins is smart and way beyond fans level of thinking

 

[vol1981]

games. so in the first 2 games, another person practiced at that spot with the first team so we could go 2=0 because there was so much uncertainty about mays immediate future. is he the better player, sure. so the oline coach and the staff made a long term decision saturday and started him so that down the stretch the okine could gel and be a force. sacrifice one game for more wins is smart and way beyond fans level of thinking

Thanks for the info.

 

[sjt18]

Dufus, is BYU in the SEC?

LOL... you calling someone else a "dufus" while not knowing that less than speedy guys get behind fast D's all the time. You're just desperately looking to deflect from the obvious.

And that is a blatant lie on the QB part with you. you have been second only to 1vol8 for Maurer.

Nope. That's untrue. So are you dumb or lying?

and no, ur hope is not. its what u want folk to think because u try and play both sides, but ur history shows clearly u want BM to start despite what he does wrong. u've argued and argued against his flaws with excuses.

Prove it. I defended Maurer from unfair attacks for a simple reason. He was a true Fr who had no business playing... but had to because JG stank so bad. I would be just as happy if Shrout started and gave UT a threat from the QB position. Or HB though I don't think he's capable as a Fr and especially considering the disadvantages.

As far as "sides"... I have ONE side. I am a UT Vols fan. I want the Vols to win. I'm not a fan of any particular player to the point where I want them to play if they hurt the team.... that's you.

 

[Alto1]

Honestly, I think JG is a psych major precisely because he's a head case. He came out of high school a highly-rated "dual threat" QB that has routinely failed when it mattered the most. It is no wonder he might seek out a manner in which to at least understand, if not attempt to rectify, his mental inability to step up and meet the challenge. While he may have come to understand it, he certainly hasn't resolved it.

Who ever had him rated as the #2 dual threat missed it by thaaaaaaaaaat much. WRONG
Also, his psych professor sucks...............

 

[HoopCreekVol]

Once he fumbled, all confidence evaporated and he made a series of bad decisions. Fumbling is a cardinal sin for a QB and he did it three times. Plenty of QBs get sacked. Very few cough it up 3 times in 15 game minutes with an interception to boot. Mainly because they'd be on the bench. Shrout got benched last year for throwing to double coverage and it didn't even get intercepted. It's on Pruitt for keeping JG in there through the meltdown.

Somewhere along the line, those fumbles and interceptions start playing in your head and you need a rest to regroup. It probably affects JG more than many others.

 

[gunner]

JG’s interception. Okay... some of this has to fall on Chaney and Friend.

At the point when JG is supposed to release the ball we got a TE and a slot receiver running side-by-side 2 yards apart. Wanya Morris on his ass, 2 interior linemen blocking UGA’s NT and 2 untouched defenders in JG’s face.

Awful play.

Vols didn’t block very well in the second half. It doesn’t matter what play you call or run if you don’t block it then it’s doomed and especially against a fast and physical defense.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

JG is a *****ng RS SR QB who is still making FR mistakes. I have defended him and his play long enough. He should never start another down for TN.

 

[Alto1]

Amen.

I think JG is the key piece. I think he has been for a while. But a lot of guys on O should have played better.

No doubt. The QB is the key position........
He can not be fragile, physically or mentally.

 

[Undercs]

Was Cade initially ruled ineligible for games only or for practice and games?

He practiced. He isn’t a good tackle.