Where does TN stack up ithe SEC

#26
#26
Our team isn't very talented, but neither is the rest of the SEC it's going to be a down year for everyone not named Kentucky. I say a top 4 finish is highly possible, top 5 at least.

Gotta think Donovan is going to have the Gators balling this fall.
 
#27
#27
With all this turnover how can we jell in time for the Dance plus, somebody on here that really knows basketball give me some info on really what you think about our team next year, need HELP.
 
#28
#28
With all this turnover how can we jell in time for the Dance plus, somebody on here that really knows basketball give me some info on really what you think about our team next year, need HELP.

Comes down to coaching, personalities, and putting in the work together.
 
#29
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My two cents, and not necessarily comparing UT's roster to other rosters:

Vandy should be improved. IIRC, they'll have a few transfers activated this season after sitting out last season. And Damien Jones has the potential to be dominant.

LSU lost quite a bit, but I think Jordan Mickey is a beast and will create matchup problems for anyone he faces except for KY. And you've got to expect Jarell Martin to start to live up to that 5* ranking this season.

Arkansas has a lot of nice pieces returning.

Florida takes a step back, but will still be in the top third / quarter of the league.

I'd expect Miss St., Miss, Mizz, A&M to be more of the same.

Wildcards are Auburn, Georgia, and S. Carolina (can F. Martin coach a team up the way he's shown he can in the past? sure would love to have gotten Thornwell here). I'd put us in this category. We'll either be at or a little below .500 or will surprise some people.

Alabama still play basketball?
 
#30
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As bad as the SEC was last year it's probably gonna be even worse next year.

I wouldn't be surprised if UF is average. Probably not an elite 8 team as usual. Lost some good players.

UGA will have a good chance being in the top 3.

LSU missed a great chance last year by underachieving really badly. They got a couple good players though.

Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St, A&M, and S. Carolina are gonna be more of the same mediocrity. Like Manny said, So. Car. has a good coach, but I'm not sure he'll have the success he did at KSU ever at his current spot.

Alabama should be better imo. They got a decent recruiting class and some good players back. But I'm not sold on Anthony Grant yet.

UT is probably top half of the league. But thats not saying much in this league anymore. Maybe they can get streaky again and jump higher but I'm not sure. OOC schedule is really important to finding good chemistry.
 
#31
#31
Alabama still play basketball?

I don't know. Ask their fans. They probably don't know either.

I have no idea what to think about Bama. I still think Anthony Grant is a good coach, but I have no idea what the heck happened last season. They seem to generally have decent talent in cycles, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them be competitive this season.
 
#32
#32
Gotcha.

I think Tennessee should be top 5, anything less than that would be a dissapointment IMO

Agreed, I want to see us in the top 5 and have CDT show enough to give us hope we'll be competitive with Kentucky and Florida within a couple of years. If we're lower than 5 given the current state of the SEC, it's gonna be a rough season.
 
#33
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I set my standards low for my vols that way when they go past by standards I can say they overachieved lol
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#34
I don't keep up with the Basketball as much as football for one of the Basketball junkies, do you think our coach can get the job done or that we are in some rough years, and do you think with a full year under his belt think he can bring in some elite recruits plus with what 8 new players was he just filling out the roster or they pretty good talent, I need the info from a REAL JUNKIE.:)
 
#35
#35
Top 4 at least I think we are going to surprise people, finish 3rd in the SEC and get into the NCAA tourney as a 12 seed.
 
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I don't keep up with the Basketball as much as football for one of the Basketball junkies, do you think our coach can get the job done or that we are in some rough years, and do you think with a full year under his belt think he can bring in some elite recruits plus with what 8 new players was he just filling out the roster or they pretty good talent, I need the info from a REAL JUNKIE.:)

Since none of the real junkies seem to be answering you I will just say this. It looks like Tyndall and his staff have some good connections for recruiting. It's what allowed him to get 8 guys so quickly. Whether that translates to sustained success recruiting top shelf guys against the blue bloods is unknown. He did not seem to take any real big projects though he did take a couple kids that need to add some weight to be able to take the physicality of the SEC and one kid (Mostella) who is a top 50 talent but may not get by the NCAA clearinghouse. He balanced his recruiting classes with 2 senior transfers, 2 Juco kids and 4 kids with 4 years of eligibility left. He also seems to have found a decent mix of front court guys (though skinny) and back court guys (though no "true" PG).

That's probably not as in depth as you were looking for but maybe it will get the ball rolling.

Edit. And for the record. I think Tyndall will be successful. Whether that success is enough for Vols fans remains to be seen.
 
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#37
#37
Now that most of the pieces are filled (I still think we add one more) what's the opinion on where our talent level stacks up with the rest of the SEC right now? Obviously, KY #1, FL #2, but it can get jumbled after that.

Kentucky
Florida
Georgia
Bama
MIZZ
Tennessee
South Carolina
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Vandy
Auburn
LSU
Miss St.

Impossible to say accurately, but we will see come winter. You may want to rethink that entire list after Florida. I'll give CDT and coaches this. They are much more aggressive with recruiting than anyone else who has been coach at UT. The job they've done over the last month or so is Butchesque and more than satisfactory/outstanding considering the circumstances. I look forward to seeing who they can bring in when they have the early inroads on them.
 
#38
#38
Who would you put in front of them? New coach at MIZZ, TN, Auburn, LSU lost 3 players, Ark had a ton of seniors last year, GA only loses 1 senior off the team that finished 3rd in the SEC last year.

That was dumb luck on GA's part. If you finish 3rd in the SEC you'd better be in the NCAA talk. They weren't even close. That's a conundrum.
 
#39
#39
My two cents, and not necessarily comparing UT's roster to other rosters:

Vandy should be improved. IIRC, they'll have a few transfers activated this season after sitting out last season. And Damien Jones has the potential to be dominant.

LSU lost quite a bit, but I think Jordan Mickey is a beast and will create matchup problems for anyone he faces except for KY. And you've got to expect Jarell Martin to start to live up to that 5* ranking this season.

Arkansas has a lot of nice pieces returning.

Florida takes a step back, but will still be in the top third / quarter of the league.

I'd expect Miss St., Miss, Mizz, A&M to be more of the same.

Wildcards are Auburn, Georgia, and S. Carolina (can F. Martin coach a team up the way he's shown he can in the past? sure would love to have gotten Thornwell here). I'd put us in this category. We'll either be at or a little below .500 or will surprise some people.

If I'm Frank Martin....I wouldn't have taken the job in the first place...but, since he did, I'd have it engraved in stone that I have at least 5 years to do something or you make it rain money if you want me gone. Period.
 
#40
#40
other than Kensucky and Florida we are just as good as anyone else so I don't see why we can't have a good season
 
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Since none of the real junkies seem to be answering you I will just say this. It looks like Tyndall and his staff have some good connections for recruiting. It's what allowed him to get 8 guys so quickly. Whether that translates to sustained success recruiting top shelf guys against the blue bloods is unknown. He did not seem to take any real big projects though he did take a couple kids that need to add some weight to be able to take the physicality of the SEC and one kid (Mostella) who is a top 50 talent but may not get by the NCAA clearinghouse. He balanced his recruiting classes with 2 senior transfers, 2 Juco kids and 4 kids with 4 years of eligibility left. He also seems to have found a decent mix of front court guys (though skinny) and back court guys (though no "true" PG).

That's probably not as in depth as you were looking for but maybe it will get the ball rolling.

Edit. And for the record. I think Tyndall will be successful. Whether that success is enough for Vols fans remains to be seen.

Thank you :rock:
 
#43
#43
Not sure what's up with people talkin bout the sec like its some great confrence in basketball then start talkin that tennessee should finish top 5 cause the sec sucks.
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#47
#47
If you're referring to Cuonzo's 1st year where they were tied for 2nd in the SEC...it's a conundrum. Definitely not his fault they gave Pearl a pass and rejected him.

Anything else you want to deal with or question JohnnyBravo? Please say no. You're to dumb and a waste of time to deal with.
 
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If you're referring to Cuonzo's 1st year where they were tied for 2nd in the SEC...it's a conundrum. Definitely not his fault they gave Pearl a pass and rejected him.

Funny.
He won 18 games that whole season and his final RPI was 90.
Think that had anything to do with it genius.
 
#49
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Funny.
He won 18 games that whole season and his final RPI was 90.
Think that had anything to do with it genius.

I only follow final records overall and SEC. I leave the RPI BS up to the politicians. Who cares about that Bull freakin crap? Bottom line...the final record was 18-15 regular, 19-15(10-6) T2nd...Better than Bruce's last year SEC wise.
 
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#50
As bad as the SEC was last year it's probably gonna be even worse next year.

I wouldn't be surprised if UF is average. Probably not an elite 8 team as usual. Lost some good players.

UGA will have a good chance being in the top 3.

LSU missed a great chance last year by underachieving really badly. They got a couple good players though.

Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St, A&M, and S. Carolina are gonna be more of the same mediocrity. Like Manny said, So. Car. has a good coach, but I'm not sure he'll have the success he did at KSU ever at his current spot.

Alabama should be better imo. They got a decent recruiting class and some good players back. But I'm not sold on Anthony Grant yet.

UT is probably top half of the league. But thats not saying much in this league anymore. Maybe they can get streaky again and jump higher but I'm not sure. OOC schedule is really important to finding good chemistry.

That's funny; of course you were probably surprised when UK lost 3 times to UF.

I'm fairly certain UF will still be above average. Yeah, we lost some good players; but keep in mind that they became good with development and experience.

Other than Young, they weren't that highly ranked coming out of high school. Young was a 5*, Prather was a 4*, Yeguete was a 3*, and Wilbekin was a 2*.

Next year's roster won't be as experienced, but will be significantly more talented...

5* Chris Walker - 6'10" 220 lbs.
5* Dorian Finney-Smith - 6'8" 215 lbs.
5* Devin Robinson - 6'8" 180 lbs.
5* Brandone Francis - 6'5" 210 lbs.
5* Kasey Hill - 6'1" 185 lbs.
4* Alex Murphy - 6'8" 220 lbs.
4* Michael Frazier - 6'4" 200 lbs.
4* Chris Chiozza - 5'10" 169 lbs.
3* Jon Horford - 6'10" 250 lbs.
3* DeVon Walker - 6'6" 200 lbs.
3* Dillon Graham - 6'4" 190 lbs.
3* Eli Carter - 6'2" 200 lbs.

As for UT, it's almost impossible to say because the coach hasn't coached a single game in the SEC, and his players haven't played a single game in his system.

That being the case, I can't put them above middle of the pack right now; and certainly not above other teams with similar talent, but whose coaches and players all have SEC experience.
 
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