Where did life begin? (Merged)

[Orangeslice13]

Frustrated from the way you're attempting to frame this? You bet. But mad? Don't flatter yourself. I was going to message you on FB, but apparently you blocked me.

I just don’t like you very much.
I get enough of you on here

 

[Orange_Crush]

If you can’t discuss things without getting mad then maybe this isn’t the place for you.

I don’t respond well to being misrepresented or being called dishonest.
‘Tis true

True. You haven't responded well at all.

 

[Roustabout]

I just don’t like you very much.
I get enough of you on here

So you did. And who is acting like a 3rd grader?

 

[Orangeslice13]

True. You haven't responded well at all.

Except this time all the butthurt is over me answering questions with questions that lead to the answer.

And your opinion of me carries as much weight as anyone else on here. None.

Except Roust. We were friends as kids.




And we’re still talking about “who mad”.
SMMFH.

 

[Orangeslice13]

So you did. And who is acting like a 3rd grader?

I always act like a 3rd grader.
I shift in and out of serious. Everyone knows this. It’s what I do. You on the other hand.......


But keep trying to justify this to all the people reading along. Here’s a clue they’re laughing at both of us. The difference is I don’t mind.


Shall we continue?

 

[BigO95]

So you did. And who is acting like a 3rd grader?

That's an easy answer! YOU BOTH ARE!!! lol:

 

[Orangeslice13]

That's an easy answer! YOU BOTH ARE!!! lol:

Nobody likes you either.
But you knew that already and like me probably don’t care

 

[Orangeslice13]

My personal bias is well documented in these forums. for those of you who don't know, I'm a Conservative religious nut job. I believe G-d created all things billions of years ago and gave it a push. from there everything evolved after it's own kind. My question is for those who come from an opposing view point.
How did life spontaneously start form non living mater?

Back on topic
Not that anyone other than me wants to talk about it

 

[LouderVol]

Except this time all the butthurt is over me answering questions with questions that lead to the answer.

And your opinion of me carries as much weight as anyone else on here. None.

Except Roust. We were friends as kids.




And we’re still talking about “who mad”.
SMMFH.

dang it.

 

[BigO95]

Nobody likes you either.
But you knew that already and like me probably don’t care

I have somewhat sensed that also, but I hold out faith in the goodwill of Volnation. I thought that you were coming around Slice! That's a dagger to the heart!

 

[BigO95]

Nobody likes you either.
But you knew that already and like me probably don’t care

I've been trying to pick a fight with LV, but I think he's chicken! lol:

 

[Orangeslice13]

I have somewhat sensed that also, but I hold out faith in the goodwill of Volnation. I thought that you were coming around Slice! That's a dagger to the heart!

I’m nobody
And I like you.

It’s all a matter of how you interpret my writings

 

[BigO95]

I’m nobody
And I like you.

It’s all a matter of how you interpret my writings

Thanks pal! I think that my avatar fits me well. :crazy:

 

[LouderVol]

Back on topic
Not that anyone other than me wants to talk about it

just for conversation here are a couple ideas out there that I don't inherently agree with but find interesting.

1. Earth as a "Second home"
2. Aliens nurtured us/planted us here
3. Collapsed Empire, basically the same as 1 but flipped.

1. Is based off a possibility that we are not actually native to the planet we call Earth. Humanity started elsewhere and ended up here. Either as part of a galactic empire or just humans fleeing their original home. It explains some of the "space men" art and culture all over the world. it also explains a fairly shared belief of lost empires/cities on earth as references to wherever we came from. It also touches on why we haven't seen/heard from anyone else, we were the last survivors and possibly part of a failed mission which is why we don't have tech.

2. aliens.

3. the same but flipped we had expanded to the stars but then for some reasons the empire collapsed and only we survived as we are the only ones on a habitable planet.

 

[LouderVol]

but as to how life formed, I am partial to the lightning striking a prehistoric soup and causing the basic blocks to start forming, whether fission or fusion idk.

I would also be open to the idea of life forming around one of the vents in the ocean where we now find the worms and what not. again lots of chemicals mixing and heat with water.

I have a difficult time believing life would have first formed on land or air. mainly the absence of water and ability for things to mix. but lightning could still work its magic. also early earth with all the lava I don't think life to evolve in that heat, but maybe if it was right next to a heat source like that?

they all allow for life to form in multiple ways imo. as lightning and the vents happen all over so each one could have gone a separate direction. I also don't think it was a smooth process. it took time, there were life failures (the first simple organisms dying off too fast). but eventually one of them was able to start multiplying at a rate faster than it died off.

 

[LouderVol]

I've been trying to pick a fight with LV, but I think he's chicken! lol:

?

 

[Obsessed]

I just don’t like you very much.
I get enough of you on here

What about me? Do you like me?

 

[BigO95]

?

I am just funning with you, but I did enjoy your response.😁

 

[Orangeslice13]

What about me? Do you like me?

I absolutely love you. You have a dog in your avai. What’s not to love. Plus I blistered you once (joking) by mistake because I quoted the wrong guy. And you played along. You’re a good anonymous friend

 

[Septic]

dang it.

ikr?

I was sure he held my opinion in the highest of regard.

 

[Orangeslice13]

but as to how life formed, I am partial to the lightning striking a prehistoric soup and causing the basic blocks to start forming, whether fission or fusion idk.

I would also be open to the idea of life forming around one of the vents in the ocean where we now find the worms and what not. again lots of chemicals mixing and heat with water.

I have a difficult time believing life would have first formed on land or air. mainly the absence of water and ability for things to mix. but lightning could still work its magic. also early earth with all the lava I don't think life to evolve in that heat, but maybe if it was right next to a heat source like that?

they all allow for life to form in multiple ways imo. as lightning and the vents happen all over so each one could have gone a separate direction. I also don't think it was a smooth process. it took time, there were life failures (the first simple organisms dying off too fast). but eventually one of them was able to start multiplying at a rate faster than it died off.

Here’s my current predicament. I try to reconcile scripture with science as G-d is a G-d of laws. To me that should include scientific laws. Scripture does say G-d caused the earth to bring forth the living things but elsewhere says different things about us/man. Man is formed from the dirt and G-d breathes life into him and he became a living soul.
I’m still not closed to the individual creation of man separate from evolution. I guess what I’m saying is my opinion on this subject is in flux.

Not a fan of the alien theory. I think that’s just punting the question further down the line.

 

[Orangeslice13]

ikr?

I was sure he held my opinion in the highest of regard.

Fine
I love everyone.
Slice is, if nothing else, all about love.


Ron, do you remember my personal motto?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Here’s my current predicament. I try to reconcile scripture with science as G-d is a G-d of laws. To me that should include scientific laws. Scripture does say G-d caused the earth to bring forth the living things but elsewhere says different things about us/man. Man is formed from the dirt and G-d breathes life into him and he became a living soul.
I’m still not closed to the individual creation of man separate from evolution. I guess what I’m saying is my opinion on this subject is in flux.

Not a fan of the alien theory. I think that’s just punting the question further down the line.

What caused God?

 

[Orangeslice13]

What caused God?

No beginning
No end.

Kinda like energy

To me.....it appears that believers and atheist/non believers agree that there is something that has no beginning

 

[LouderVol]

Here’s my current predicament. I try to reconcile scripture with science as G-d is a G-d of laws. To me that should include scientific laws. Scripture does say G-d caused the earth to bring forth the living things but elsewhere says different things about us/man. Man is formed from the dirt and G-d breathes life into him and he became a living soul.
I’m still not closed to the individual creation of man separate from evolution. I guess what I’m saying is my opinion on this subject is in flux.

Not a fan of the alien theory. I think that’s just punting the question further down the line.

to the bolded, it does. but it creates some interesting conversation if you feel like walking the crazy path.

in scripture life was first formed in the waters and sky before earth. so humanity forming from earth doesn't bother me vs evolution.

I don't fully buy into that one prototypical graphic of evolution of the fish getting legs walking onto land and becoming a mammal and then turning into us. I don't think there is anything to support humans evolving from a water based life form, but idk. I could see us evolving from a land based microorganism but I still believe those micro organisms started in the water. ours just emerged from the water and became mammalian then ended up as us. so in my world we did form from the earth.