Where did life begin? (Merged)

Do you believe we have a creator, aka "God"?

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BigO95 said:
Genesis 1:1 (KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Colossians 1:14-21 (KJV)
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

:) That was easy :hi:
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Still waiting on the title “G-d the Son” in scripture
 
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BigO95 said:
1st off that has nothing to do with the subject since I have an English Bible now that has been translated from copies of the originals.
2nd It doesn't have to directly reference it for the information to be there.
3rd Genesis was written to give the creation account because it does.
4th off God can do it in any order he wants seeing he is God.
5th off The absurdity of Darwin's evolution wasn't around to dispute before the 1859's.
6th you should retake your hermeneutics class because obviously you missed something.
and thanks for the new nickname, "Hyper Fundy" :hi:
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We don’t have original texts.
Only copies of copies
 
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Roustabout said:
This isn't a discussion on evolution. It is a discussion about how one handles the text.

Hermeneutics? Have you ever prepared a sermon or homily. I've studied specifically in preparing expository sermons. That being, one starts with the text and let's it shape the sermon. As opposed to starting with a subject (say the age of the earth) and trying to proof scripture into the sermon.
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Sir I have prepared a few sermons myself. :hi: I know full well about expository preaching. and I know full well how important it is to properly handle the scriptures.
I've been at this a long time! :hi:
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Still waiting on the title “G-d the Son” in scripture
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Isaiah 9:6-7 (KJV)
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
There that should kill two birds with one stone.
 
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BigO95 said:
Sir I have prepared a few sermons myself. :hi: I full know about expository preaching. and I know full well how important it is to properly handle the scriptures.
I've been at this a long time! :hi:
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Ok, then you are well aware of the C.I.T. So, Please provide an explanation as to how the C.I.T of the Genesis creation account is to establish a scientific basis and claim regarding the time span for the creation of the cosmos.

Do the same for the lineages to demonstrate that the C.I.T is to establish a time line.
 
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Roustabout said:
Ok, then you are well aware of the C.I.T. So, Please provide an explanation as to how the C.I.T of the Genesis creation account is to establish a scientific basis and claim regarding the time span for the creation of the cosmos.

Do the same for the lineages to demonstrate that the C.I.T is to establish a time line.
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All I'm saying is just read your bible, its right there in the book. no need to go any farther with it. God calls preachers to preach the bible, not science books.
 
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BigO95 said:
All I'm saying is just read your bible, its right there in the book. no need to go any farther with it. God calls preachers to preach the bible, not science books.
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The ole "just read your Bible," retort.

The favorite argument of the hyper fundamentalist.
Previous applications of this argument. Antebellum plantation owner: "Of course God supports slavery, it's right there in the Bible."
 
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Roustabout said:
The ole "just read your Bible," retort.

The favorite argument of the hyper fundamentalist.
Previous applications of this argument. Antebellum plantation owner: "Of course God supports slavery, it's right there in the Bible."
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I have showed you already how to come to the conclusion that I have come to. Now then, you have done nothing but try to destroy the plain teaching of the bible. Show me from the bible how you arrive at your theory[doctrine] about Genesis one please. :hi:
 
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BigO95 said:
I have showed you already how to come to the conclusion that I have come to. Now then, you have done nothing but try to destroy the plain teaching of the bible. Show me from the bible how you arrive at your theory[doctrine] about Genesis one please. :hi:
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Now the "plain teaching."

Ok, the Bible plainly speaks of God's hand. Does he have a physical hand?

It plainly says 'his hand.'
 
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Roustabout said:
Now the "plain teaching."

Ok, the Bible plainly speaks of God's hand. Does he have a physical hand?

It plainly says 'his hand.'
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You're side tracking, Jesus' hand is the hand of God. So yes he does.
Colossians 2:9 (KJV)
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
There's you some bible to back it up. :hi:
 
#3,218
#3,218
BigO95 said:
You're side tracking, Jesus' hand is the hand of God. So yes he does.
Colossians 2:9 (KJV)
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
There's you some bible to back it up. :hi:
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Holy crap. That's rich. So, in the OT when it speaks of the hand of god, say in Isaiah 41:12, it's actually referring to the physical right hand (not the left) of the future incarnation of Jesus?
 
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Roustabout said:
Holy crap. That's rich. So, in the OT when it speaks of the hand of god, say in Isaiah 41:12, it's actually referring to the physical right hand (not the left) of the future incarnation of Jesus?
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You are acting like a third grader. :hi: You have taken enough of my time on this glorious Lords day. :hi: I bid you good day.
 
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LouderVol said:
mhm. you know I got time stamps on all this.
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Yes. I clearly pizzed him off. I thought we were having a good discussion then he went IG. I’ve learned that when people get pizzy the chances of me benefiting from it are over so I bail.
At the end of the day it’s all about me.

I apparently can’t converse with everyone the way I do with you.
 
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