Where did life begin? (Merged)

[Orangeslice13]

I'm not a baptist. But even if I was, the Baptist don't hold to a doctrine that would label them as aberrant regarding orthodoxy. Saying there are a million movement is misleading as to the fundamental, orthodoxy at hand.

I once had a baptist preacher say to me that a pre tribe rapture was a statement of faith. You weren’t saved if you didn’t believe it so.......

 

[Orangeslice13]

Hey, if we all knew how to balance our religious identities with our daily lives, things would be a lot simpler. The complexity of that impossible task suggests either that religious notions of God are completely fraudulent, or they are proof of its existence. Take your pick.

I’m just going to be me....seek God the best I can.....and answer for it later.

 

[BigO95]

BigO out here like:

I certainly respect how open he is with his beliefs but I'm not sure how you can reason with someone so adamant in believing something that is so demonstratably false. Young earth guys are usually lost causes in that regard.

I don't mind as long as they aren't ****ing with public school education.

Give me one good reason why the theory of biblical creation should not be taught as well? all sides should be represented.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Ok
Red is taking me to lunch.
I’ll catch up later.


Evolution...let’s deal with it people

 

[hog88]

Do you believe that the original Hebrew and Greek scriptures to be the word of God?

No.

 

[Wafflestomper]

Give me one good reason why the theory of biblical creation should not be taught as well? all sides should be represented.

Because there's no way to demonstrate its truth.

 

[hog88]

Are you one of those people who think you can't actually say "God" and have to use some indirect reference, i.e. "G-d"?

That makes no sense to me.

But you understand someone unable to say Islamic terrorist?

 

[MercyPercy]

Give me one good reason why the theory of biblical creation should not be taught as well? all sides should be represented.

Because you don't teach metaphysical beliefs and theories in a science classroom, you teach and discuss scientific facts and theories. It's that simple.

Further, you aren't simply wanting generic creationism as a broad idea taught. You want your specific brand of creationism. You would not be for teaching islamic mythology or Greek mythology in earth science.

 

[lawgator1]

But you understand someone unable to say Islamic terrorist?

That was not because he was trying to present himself as pious. It was because he knew that a certain segment of the population is unsophisticated and thinks that Islam is the driving force behind people being terrorists, as opposed to the radicalization part.

He just did not want to feed their ignorance, nor take advantage of it and manipulate it. As so many on the other side of the political spectrum have done.

 

[Orange_Crush]

No, it in no way puts me in an authority over God.

He gave us a conscious, that little voice you hear inside your head. Has that ever told you to do something wrong?

Yes. All the time.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Idk. That's the best answer I can give you. I go to church. I accept the things from it that I believe make life better. I reject views I don't believe to be beneficial.

Indeed, it seems you *have* seen quite a bit of change over the past year or so...

Props for that much. :hi:

 

[The Ron Mexico]

I am just trying to find out if he is being honest and wants to know the truth or if he or she is just messing with me.

Do you subscribe to that belief?

I won’t ask any follow up questions regardless of your answer here. I’m genuinely curious.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Meh.
It’s not really about you and more about me.
I will be judged alone before my God. Just like you will. If G-d instead of God is vanity on my part then I'll answer for it.
The reason that we drop the vowels is simply out of respect. And traditional reasons if we’re being honest. Similar to dropping the vowels in G-ds name. YHWH.

I actually kinda laughed at the idea that I’m more religious than others. I’m a fowl mouthed *******.
I seek God (Vowels left in just for you) the best I can but I am who I am and won’t pretend otherwise. Nobody that knows me will ever accuse me of being fake religious.

If the vowels were inserted back into Yahweh/Jehovah/YHWH, how would it be be pronounced?

 

[hog88]

That was not because he was trying to present himself as pious. It was because he knew that a certain segment of the population is unsophisticated and thinks that Islam is the driving force behind people being terrorists, as opposed to the radicalization part.

He just did not want to feed their ignorance, nor take advantage of it and manipulate it. As so many on the other side of the political spectrum have done.

Blah, blah. If Obama said his **** tasted like vanilla ice cream you'd have waited in line for a cone.

 

[BigO95]

Because you don't teach metaphysical beliefs and theories in a science classroom, you teach and discuss scientific facts and theories. It's that simple.

Further, you aren't simply wanting generic creationism as a broad idea taught. You want your specific brand of creationism. You would not be for teaching islamic mythology or Greek mythology in earth science.

Let's just name it young Earth creationist. How would that do? Would that have a seat at the scientific table?

 

[hog88]

Yes. All the time.

Never has me. I have ignored it but it's never pointed me in the wrong direction.

 

[roosterjbh]

Let's just name it young Earth creationist. How would that do? Would that have a seat at the scientific table?

Absolutely not.

I hope you don’t teach kids

 

[BigO95]

Do you subscribe to that belief?

I won’t ask any follow up questions regardless of your answer here. I’m genuinely curious.

I believe that God wants everyone to know the truth. I also believe if you earnestly seek God you will find him.

 

[BigO95]

Absolutely not.

I hope you don’t teach kids

I teach children every Sunday and most Wednesdays. And many times through the week. You however are the one I'm worried about teaching children.

 

[MercyPercy]

Let's just name it young Earth creationist. How would that do? Would that have a seat at the scientific table?

Young earth creationism is off the table completely because modern science determines that to be absurdity of the highest order and there are mountains of evidence which prove the earth is far older.

Creationism in general is not taught because there is nothing really to teach. "Scientists theorize an event called the big bang occurred and the universe expanded rapidly from a single point. The evidence behind this theory is.."

"Or, we guess it could have been a supreme god, but there's nothing really we can test or observe that would legitimize this theory in a scientific context. And this is a science class, so.."

It's just not relevant.

 

[BigO95]

Rooster it's called Church you should go sometime.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Because you don't teach metaphysical beliefs and theories in a science classroom, you teach and discuss scientific facts and theories. It's that simple.

Further, you aren't simply wanting generic creationism as a broad idea taught. You want your specific brand of creationism. You would not be for teaching islamic mythology or Greek mythology in earth science.

Methodological naturalism is a metaphysical belief.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Never has me. I have ignored it but it's never pointed me in the wrong direction.

How would you know?

 

[hog88]

How would you know?

Nothing bad has ever happened nor have I felt any remorse when I followed it's lead. When I've ignored it things haven't turned out so well.

 

[roosterjbh]

I teach children every Sunday and most Wednesdays. And many times through the week. You however are the one I'm worried about teaching children.

I have no qualms with people being religious.

You teaching kids young earth creationist nonsense is doing nothing but stunting them intellectually.

I suggest you look up someone like William Lane Craig, or other academics of your faith on what they have to say on YEC evidence and how it is hurting Christianity.