Where did life begin? (Merged)

[lawgator1]

The son has a G-d.
The son is the authority of G-d.
Begotten of G-d.
Deemed worthy by G-d
The fulfillment of Lev 4-6 and only path to G-d as spoken by the prophets
But not G-d

Are you one of those people who think you can't actually say "God" and have to use some indirect reference, i.e. "G-d"?

That makes no sense to me.

 

[Vol8188]

Prophecy fulfilled the resurrection of Jesus Christ the testimony of the Saints historical evidence. If that is not enough to convince you, then I really don't have an answer for you.
My question to you is do you really want to believe? Are you really seeking truth?

Your historical evidence of the saints is no different then the historical evidence that Jesus came to Montana or Utah or whatever Joseph Smith was preaching.

 

[Roustabout]

The son has a G-d.
The son is the authority of G-d.
Begotten of G-d.
Deemed worthy by G-d
The fulfillment of Lev 4-6 and only path to G-d as spoken by the prophets
But not G-d

Then you are not a Messianic Jew. You are part of the Hebrew roots movement.

Statement of Faith – Messianic Jewish Alliance of America

 

[Roustabout]

The son has a G-d.
The son is the authority of G-d.
Begotten of G-d.
Deemed worthy by G-d
The fulfillment of Lev 4-6 and only path to G-d as spoken by the prophets
But not G-d

Then you are not a Messianic Jew. You are part of the Hebrew roots movement.

Statement of Faith – Messianic Jewish Alliance of America

 

[Roustabout]

The son has a G-d.
The son is the authority of G-d.
Begotten of G-d.
Deemed worthy by G-d
The fulfillment of Lev 4-6 and only path to G-d as spoken by the prophets
But not G-d

Then you are not a Messianic Jew. You are part of the Hebrew roots movement.

Statement of Faith – Messianic Jewish Alliance of America

 

[Roustabout]

Your historical evidence of the saints is no different then the historical evidence that Jesus came to Montana or Utah or whatever Joseph Smith was preaching.

Oh, come on.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The son has a G-d.
The son is the authority of G-d.
Begotten of G-d.
Deemed worthy by G-d
The fulfillment of Lev 4-6 and only path to G-d as spoken by the prophets
But not G-d

Here is a good explanation from 1 cor 15 of the relationship between Messiah and G-d.

26 The last enemy to be done away with will be death, 27 for "He put everything in subjection under his feet."m But when it says that "everything" has been subjected, obviously the word does not include God, who is himself the one subjecting everything to the Messiah. 28 Now when everything has been subjected to the Son, then he will subject himself to God, who subjected everything to him; so that God may be everything in everyone.

 

[Vol8188]

It’s worthless and does more damage than good.

Last question:

When speaking, how do you use the word "God". I know you don't type it on here.

Thanks for answering my previous

 

[Vol8188]

Oh, come on.

What's the difference in the two?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Then you are not a Messianic Jew. You are part of the Hebrew roots movement.

Statement of Faith – Messianic Jewish Alliance of America

There’s a million movements.
I belong to the one called “Slice will answer to G-d one day and this is what he believes “.

It’s kinda like me saying you’re not a Baptist because y’all have 20 versions and you disagree with some of them.
The title is irrelevant.
I practice Judaism and believe Yeshua was Messiah.
I go to a messianic synagogue where we all agree for the most part

 

[The Ron Mexico]

Prophecy fulfilled the resurrection of Jesus Christ the testimony of the Saints historical evidence. If that is not enough to convince you, then I really don't have an answer for you.
My question to you is do you really want to believe? Are you really seeking truth?

The bolded is a common technique used by many religions and denominations. The LDS Church relies heavily on this. “If you are truly seeking the truth through prayer, then you will see it the same way I do.”

I don’t actually know if you hold that belief, but it seems as though you might.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Are you one of those people who think you can't actually say "God" and have to use some indirect reference, i.e. "G-d"?

That makes no sense to me.

I can say God.
I choose not too out of respect.



I’ll be back later

 

[Vol8188]

I can say God.
I choose not too out of respect.



I’ll be back later

Thank you

 

[Orangeslice13]

Last question:

When speaking, how do you use the word "God". I know you don't type it on here.

Thanks for answering my previous

“Most High”
Or a Hebrew word that means “the name “ HaShem

 

[lawgator1]

I can say God.
I choose not too out of respect.



I’ll be back later

I fail to see how omitting a letter means you have more respect for Him than I do. It seems more like you want everyone to know that you are presenting yourself that way.

Its like the comedian Anthony Jeselnik talking about people posting on Facebook whenever there is a tragedy that they are sending their "thoughts and prayers" to those affected.

Its far less about that, and far more about letting everyone know you are righteous. More than they are, anyway.

 

[Vol8188]

I fail to see how omitting a letter means you have more respect for Him than I do. It seems more like you want everyone to know that you are presenting yourself that way.

Its like the comedian Anthony Jeselnik talking about people posting on Facebook whenever there is a tragedy that they are sending their "thoughts and prayers" to those affected.

Its far less about that, and far more about letting everyone know you are righteous. More than they are, anyway.

My favorite form of virtue of signaling now is "_____ is donating her birthday to charity". That's awesome. Publically announcing to a group of people who weren't going to buy you presents, not to buy you presents.

And ftr I'm talking about the thoughts and prayers people, not Slice.

 

[Wafflestomper]

Only because of how you asked the question.

I've asked this question about every way I know how. I'm beginning to think you're being intentionally obtuse. I said this several pages ago:

You originally said that I didn't understand the argument if I questioned whether there could be more than one non-contingent being. I've seen nothing yet, other than assertions vis-a-vis the nature of this being, that shows this to be true. The part in bold could easily apply to an infinite number of non-contingent beings if I decided to claim that it was in their nature to exist.

Is the claim that there can't be multiple non-contingent beings dependent upon Aquinas's derivation of this being's nature/properties? I think you probably know that I don't find those arguments compelling.

It seems that the answer to that question, which has not been answered, is yes (i.e. you need to prove the first cause is pure actuality).

If that's the case then Aquinas's argument, if it succeeds, tells you practically nothing.

 

[BigO95]

The bolded is a common technique used by many religions and denominations. The LDS Church relies heavily on this. “If you are truly seeking the truth through prayer, then you will see it the same way I do.”

I don’t actually know if you hold that belief, but it seems as though you might.

I am just trying to find out if he is being honest and wants to know the truth or if he or she is just messing with me.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I fail to see how omitting a letter means you have more respect for Him than I do. It seems more like you want everyone to know that you are presenting yourself that way.

Its like the comedian Anthony Jeselnik talking about people posting on Facebook whenever there is a tragedy that they are sending their "thoughts and prayers" to those affected.

Its far less about that, and far more about letting everyone know you are righteous. More than they are, anyway.

Meh.
It’s not really about you and more about me.
I will be judged alone before my God. Just like you will. If G-d instead of God is vanity on my part then I'll answer for it.
The reason that we drop the vowels is simply out of respect. And traditional reasons if we’re being honest. Similar to dropping the vowels in G-ds name. YHWH.

I actually kinda laughed at the idea that I’m more religious than others. I’m a fowl mouthed *******.
I seek God (Vowels left in just for you) the best I can but I am who I am and won’t pretend otherwise. Nobody that knows me will ever accuse me of being fake religious.

 

[Roustabout]

There’s a million movements.
I belong to the one called “Slice will answer to G-d one day and this is what he believes “.

It’s kinda like me saying you’re not a Baptist because y’all have 20 versions and you disagree with some of them.
The title is irrelevant.
I practice Judaism and believe Yeshua was Messiah.
I go to a messianic synagogue where we all agree for the most part

I'm not a baptist. But even if I was, the Baptist don't hold to a doctrine that would label them as aberrant regarding orthodoxy. Saying there are a million movement is misleading as to the fundamental, orthodoxy at hand.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Lg should know more than anyone I’m no compassionate Christian. I give him/her **** non stop

 

[lawgator1]

My favorite form of virtue of signaling now is "_____ is donating her birthday to charity". That's awesome. Publically announcing to a group of people who weren't going to buy you presents, not to buy you presents.

And ftr I'm talking about the thoughts and prayers people, not Slice.

Agree. One of many ways in which FB seems these days to be populated by only ads, people complaining about Sea World and dolphins, and taunting people in your fantasy leagues.

And i did not mean to single out Slice, or any one person really. It has always seemed to me, however, that truly pious people do so in silence. It is not a thing to be bragged about, imo. But I guess there is a fine line between that and spreading the Word, as is your duty in Christianity (really, in most religions).

 

[Orangeslice13]

I'm not a baptist. But even if I was, the Baptist don't hold to a doctrine that would label them as aberrant regarding orthodoxy. Saying there are a million movement is misleading as to the fundamental, orthodoxy at hand.

I meant no disrespect with the baptist comments. I find baptist to be some of the more reasonable people. My kids went to a COC school you can imagine how that went.
I only said that as we attended the same baptist church as kids (my mother is baptist) and played on the same league b-ball team.

 

[MercyPercy]

BigO out here like:

I certainly respect how open he is with his beliefs but I'm not sure how you can reason with someone so adamant in believing something that is so demonstratably false. Young earth guys are usually lost causes in that regard.

I don't mind as long as they aren't ****ing with public school education.

 

[lawgator1]

Lg should know more than anyone I’m no compassionate Christian. I give him/her **** non stop

Hey, if we all knew how to balance our religious identities with our daily lives, things would be a lot simpler. The complexity of that impossible task suggests either that religious notions of God are completely fraudulent, or they are proof of its existence. Take your pick.