When will UT next be "successful"?

#26
#26
lawgator1 said:
FWIW, if the question were asked of me, I'd say 10 wins OR an SEC championship to me would be successful. And I think a five year timeframe is more than reasonable on that.

Next year is going to be so unusual. Florida has to go to UT and is going to be without Tebow and the defense will be almost entirely new. But UT will likely have its own gaping holes, too.
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I agree with the 10 or SEC Championship measuring stick, but I'd like to see it accomplished within a 3 year time frame unless there are extenuating circumstances. I'm not sure we will have Monte or any of the other assistants much past that and that will mean more changes. Obviously CLK can recruit coaches as well as players, but if we haven't had success by then we may be facing a tough road.

Next year would be an ideal time considering our schedule. We get Oregon, UF, and bama at home. We travel to UGA and LSU but that's as tough as it gets away from home. With that being said...the QB position will still likely be an issue.
 
#27
#27
a sure measure of success will be when Gators stop hanging around the message boards.

bammers used to frequent the Vol call-in shows until a couple games into the streak, when things got real quiet from that part of the country.
 
#28
#28
lawgator1 said:
There's a guy with a radio show down here, Dan Silio. He played for the Hurricanes and a bit in the NFL. Broadcasts I think out of the Tampa area, or at least he is Florida based.

We was talking about the 'canes the other day and said that he was tired of talk of speculation and moral victories, and wanted the 'canes to get back to what he considered a successful year, which he defined as 10 or more wins.

If 10 wins is the measure, when do you think UT will be successful again?

And if its some other measure, i.e. an SEC championship or a BCS bowl, how would you desrcibe the measure and when do the Vols get there?

This year? 2010? 2011?
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Depends on your definition of successful. It will vary drastically from person to person.
 
#29
#29
Success this season is going to be about progress, making a statement to recruits and setting the stage for new UT football. We will win some games and probably surprise ourselves, given the low expectations, but I want competitiveness at the highest level. That's what we have lost. Win totals and titles don't always attest to the level of play and goings on in a program. Over time, those things are reflected, but a single season doesn't always tell the story.

To wit: AL sucked in 07, even losing to ULM, but was o a path to playing Saban football. That same season, we appeared in the conf title game, but were blitzed by every team that mattered or had talent. I like AL's 07 much better than ours. They had growing pains, but were headed up. We won 10 games but were headed directly to the mediocrity that has now so lowered our expectations.

Long story short, this season is more about style and process than ultimate results.
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#30
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BigPapaVol said:
Success this season is going to be about progress, making a statemet to recruits and setting the stage for new UT football. We will win some games and probably surprise ourselves, given the low expectations, but I want competitiveness at the highest level. That's what we have lost. Win totals and titles don't always attest to the level of play and goings o in a program. Over time, those things are reflected, but a single season doesn't always tell the story.

To wit: AL sucked in 07, even losing to ULM, but was o a path to playing Saban football. That same season, we appeared in the conf title game, but were blitzes by every team that mattered or had talent. I like AL's 07 much better than ours. They had growing pains, but were headed up. We won 10 games but were headed directly to the mediocrity that has now so lowered our expectations.

Long story short, this season is more about style and process than ultimate results.
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Perfectly stated, with very clear examples.
 
#31
#31
The real success is the buzz Kiffin has created about the program. Players and prospects continue to comment on the intensity and passion of the coaching staff.
 
#32
#32
"Yes, they made a mistake, but at least it was full speed"...may actually be believable again on the hill. That would be a success.
 
#33
#33
2011. The thing is, we can have two successive ten win seasons and not cringe at the impending failure, and that's something I'm happy about.
 
#34
#34
BigPapaVol said:
Success this season is going to be about progress, making a statemet to recruits and setting the stage for new UT football. We will win some games and probably surprise ourselves, given the low expectations, but I want competitiveness at the highest level. That's what we have lost. Win totals and titles don't always attest to the level of play and goings o in a program. Over time, those things are reflected, but a single season doesn't always tell the story.

To wit: AL sucked in 07, even losing to ULM, but was o a path to playing Saban football. That same season, we appeared in the conf title game, but were blitzes by every team that mattered or had talent. I like AL's 07 much better than ours. They had growing pains, but were headed up. We won 10 games but were headed directly to the mediocrity that has now so lowered our expectations.

Long story short, this season is more about style and process than ultimate results.
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Nice post.
 
#35
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Duckhook said:
Well, its all relative when you put a win total on it. To win 9 (minimum) regular season, you can only lose 3. In 2010 and 2011, UT plays the following both years:

Florida
Georgia
Bama
LSU
Oregon
South Carolina

You've got to at least go 3-3 through that stretch, and I see nothing to point to UF, Bama, UGA, or LSU taking a significant step back anytime soon. All 4 have dominated SEC recruiting for the past 2 years, and are at it again for 2010. If 10 wins is to happen in 2011, some big dogs will have to fall. Not saying it can't or won't happen, mind you.
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My brother in law went to Oregon and we have been talking already about those two games, but one is next year and one is in 2013 unless it was changed?
 
#37
#37
FWIW, Dan Sileo is a total D-bag.

He is a HUUUUUGE Miami homer, and did ZERO in college or the NFL.

He's actually the main reason why I got XM radio... I get nauseated just hearing his voice in the morning.

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I think 2010 is certainly possible, but 2011 is really when Kiffin NEEDS to put up 10 wins and atleast a "decent" bowl game... Capital One or Outback being the minimum.
 
#38
#38
Duckhook said:
Well, its all relative when you put a win total on it. To win 9 (minimum) regular season, you can only lose 3. In 2010 and 2011, UT plays the following both years:

Florida
Georgia
Bama
LSU
Oregon
South Carolina

You've got to at least go 3-3 through that stretch, and I see nothing to point to UF, Bama, UGA, or LSU taking a significant step back anytime soon. All 4 have dominated SEC recruiting for the past 2 years, and are at it again for 2010. If 10 wins is to happen in 2011, some big dogs will have to fall. Not saying it can't or won't happen, mind you.
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Come on guys...These posts frustrate me. Level of talent of UGA is comparable to ours in those years or lower. Richt can coach a quality offense but their D is unknown at this point. I ain't skeered.

South Carolina and Oregon? Just go ahead and chalk those up as victories. So we lose to Bama, Florida and LSU? Sounds about right. If we got in a few more stud playmakers which I fully expect with this recruiting staff, we could beat 1 of them and we have a little margin for error to get to 10 wins still.

South Carolina? Seriously? Spurrier will grow tired and quit this year after Stephen Garcia implodes again. If the poor man could only clone Danny W we would all be scared of SC but alas he cannot.
 
#39
#39
Orlando Vol said:
FWIW, Dan Sileo is a total D-bag.

He is a HUUUUUGE Miami homer, and did ZERO in college or the NFL.

He's actually the main reason why I got XM radio... I get nauseated just hearing his voice in the morning.

[/end rant]

I think 2010 is certainly possible, but 2011 is really when Kiffin NEEDS to put up 10 wins and atleast a "decent" bowl game... Capital One or Outback being the minimum.
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He is a huge 'cane guy, but he's been quite humble about them of late. He is not buying into anything about ACC championships or division titles and is interested, he says, only when they return to 10 win type seasons.

That in fact is what prompted me to ask the question.

I recall when the SEC split and adopted the title game approach. I said at the time the same thing he is saying now -- didn't much care then about SEC championships.

I do give Spurrier credit for having realized at the time how important they would become, since we see that winning the SEC is often for a spot in the national championship. Probably always going to be that way.
 
#40
#40
This year possibly... down year next year... hopefully competing for the SEC championship by 11.
 
#41
#41
This year!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am thinking more like 2-3 years realistically. There is a snowballs chance in hell that we will do it this year.
 
#42
#42
Taking into account that Saban turned Alabama around in two seasons, I see no reason why Kiffin can't do the same. I'm not saying he will, but he certainly could.
 
#44
#44
Vol_4_Life said:
Taking into account that Saban turned Alabama around in two seasons, I see no reason why Kiffin can't do the same. I'm not saying he will, but he certainly could.
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Saban's roster had better talent than what Kiffin is inheriting.
 
#45
#45
I'd say successful is when teams worry about playing you. That is this year.
10 wins seems to be the consensus so i'd say next year.
 
#47
#47
This year. Take a look at my in depth look in the Thread--Vols go 9-3....I think the Vols are going to be great this year, bearing that Crompton is just average.
 
#48
#48
IPorange said:
Chalking up Oregon as a victory is a bit fool-hardy.
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i kinda like to watch oregon a little bit and was drawn in at first about them being an underdog and all, but really now ive watched them, i think they are a bit over hyped . they are the 2nd biggest fish in a verry small pond.
 
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