What underrated recruit (3-star or lower) has CJP recruited and developed that has given everyone this idea he is a great talent evaluator?

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Over the years when we look at what School has "sent" the most players to the NFL it isn't a SEC school, the top five are OK, Michigan, OH State, USC, and #1Notre Dame-I believe it is due in a large part to recruiting. Of course, great coaching, facilities etc. are top factors, but some schools, Notre Dame being the best example, have a very effective "scouting" side to their recruiting efforts. Just like you need to "bring along" a freshman player, we need to be bringing along our scouting/recruiting program. The best football players in the US are not given "special football powers" because of the state their family lives in. A GREAT player such as Joe Burrow, had to fight for a chance to play, in part due to where he was from. I'm sure coach O in LSU feels like a genius for giving Joe Burrow the nod. If we study how Notre Dame does it, maybe we could learn from their success.
 
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It's amazing. Recruit 4 star and above talent and improve/develop it. It's a failure because that player was higher on the depth chart than a star. If the 3 star was starting over, the OP would be on here complaining that the higher rated guys would be failures because of Pruitt. It's basically a no win negavol.
 
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For me seeing him convert basically wide receivers into top notch db’s is impressive and a sure sign that we will be back probably sooner than some think.
 
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jwilliams said:
I realize these are debatable, but how about these guys?

Shawn Shamburger
Trevon Flowers
Theo Jackson
Baylen Buchanan
Kenneth George JR
K'Rojhn Calbert
Kurott Garland
Austin Pope
LaTrell Bumphus
Matthew Butler
Kivon Bennett
Darel Middleton

Not saying any of these guys are superstars right now, but I've seen good plays and some contribution from all of them.
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Several in this group have improved or are improving, coaches doing good work. GBO!
 
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joevol33 said:
Kirby is a fresher version of Richt, but more annoying. The only thing he's done in games has been out talent others, and even that has backfired (see tge South Carolina game). His game day coaching skills aren't great, and they probably won't be. His recruiting has already slipped this year, which means he's gonna stop just having tge best talent. The pups days at tge top of the east are numbered. Losing Pittman, a few lineman, and having tension between his qb and oc will hurt them next season. Wait till the sugar bowl, I would bet Baylor runs them off the field.
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What happens against Baylor really doesn't impact my opinion on Georgia. What would be interesting is if Fromm went pro. Before this year, Fromm was widely considered a top-ten draft pick. He loses Chaney and slips. I was listening to the Chuck Oliver show and Oliver made an interesting point. It's not going to get easier for Fromm next year. They are losing their best OL. I don't care how well you recruit, I think Fromm is a legit QB and losing him would be a major blow. If he sees his OL core and a suspect OC for next year, he may bolt. Bolting may be good for him long term anyway. Imagine him getting drafted by a NE, NO, GB, Pittsburgh, LA Chargers.

There are a lot of scenarios that can go really right for us next year.
 
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I have issues with Pruitt on occasion (game management) but I’m not questioning his player development ability. Anyone with eye sight at all can see the significant difference from 2017 to 2019.
 
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I dont know that Pruitt and company do any better job coaching up kids than any other good staff but they do instill a good work ethic in them and they get the most out of them, these kids play hard for him and they play well at each position. thats why we see our playmakers showing up on both sides of the ball. no one can shine unless every player on the field is doing their assignment and doing it fairly well. I dont think under Butch or Dooley the players played for the team and thats why they ultimately failed, Kiffin did a good job during his time here at instilling this mindset as well and will be a problem at Ole Miss, Pruitt is a good coach and he has a tremendous staff. we will win alot of games unless they start disecting his coaches year after year and affecting his continuity.
 
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CrybabyVol said:
What happens against Baylor really doesn't impact my opinion on Georgia. What would be interesting is if Fromm went pro. Before this year, Fromm was widely considered a top-ten draft pick. He loses Chaney and slips. I was listening to the Chuck Oliver show and Oliver made an interesting point. It's not going to get easier for Fromm next year. They are losing their best OL. I don't care how well you recruit, I think Fromm is a legit QB and losing him would be a major blow. If he sees his OL core and a suspect OC for next year, he may bolt. Bolting may be good for him long term anyway. Imagine him getting drafted by a NE, NO, GB, Pittsburgh, LA Chargers.

There are a lot of scenarios that can go really right for us next year.
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I've never understood the fascination with Fromm going pro in football. Dude is short, unathletic, has small hands and an average arm. He didn't slip this year because he is the same guy he was last year and the year before, chaney just disguised it better. He is a career 180 yard a game passer that is really good at presnap reads to set up blocking and the correct running play. When asked to preform in the expected role of a QB he lacks the tools and confidence to do so. Folks blame his WRs for this year but his top 6 consist of highly rated 4* and 5* recruits with half residing in Athens 2 years now. Plenty of time if both sides are putting in the effort to get somewhat comfortable.

Folks look at his yards per season forget that UGA seasons run 14-15 games long for Fromm instead of 12-13. And those extra games are mostly a product of how bad the east has been rather than anything special UGA has.
 
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As to the OP question? I was going to post something mean but thought better of it. Evaluation of talent is purely speculative in nature so many outside factors come into play when recruiting services assign a rating. Mainly it's how many times they see a kid. Often the difference in a ranking is the number and name of camps attended and the support system of the school attended. Where college coaches watch games recruiting services watch camps.
 
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Bigun said:
Played what game? I'm asking what recruits, under the radar recruits he has developed.

As far as Coach Buttfront goes it is possible to say I hate UGA and I also realize they are dominating the East by a mile and both be true. Kirby needs to move on to the NFL or somewhere else. That would help us tremendously.
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How about what he did with Warrior this year/over the past 2 years. Helluva reclamation job on a guy who was awful/a liability at Safety. Took a little time to get Warrior to buy in, but when he did, he went from a major liability for our defense to an all-sec performer. And don’t give me “he was a 4 star”, because he was playing like 2-star trash before Pruitt got him turned around.
 
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Smokeyone said:
I've never understood the fascination with Fromm going pro in football. Dude is short, unathletic, has small hands and an average arm. He didn't slip this year because he is the same guy he was last year and the year before, chaney just disguised it better. He is a career 180 yard a game passer that is really good at presnap reads to set up blocking and the correct running play. When asked to preform in the expected role of a QB he lacks the tools and confidence to do so. Folks blame his WRs for this year but his top 6 consist of highly rated 4* and 5* recruits with half residing in Athens 2 years now. Plenty of time if both sides are putting in the effort to get somewhat comfortable.

Folks look at his yards per season forget that UGA seasons run 14-15 games long for Fromm instead of 12-13. And those extra games are mostly a product of how bad the east has been rather than anything special UGA has.
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I agree about Chaney. I should have highlighted that more. I think the fascination with Fromm (from my memory) is he was kind of was the first person that started the wave of benching established quarterbacks for unknowns and he had a great season that first year. The irony, of course, is then he wasn't benched for Fields who will be the Heisman front runner with Lawrence next year (who also, of course, usurped an established QB).

My point with Fromm is I think he is still a good QB. He's also a veteran. I would rather him be gone then be there. If I was advising him, I'd politely indicate that things aren't going to look to get better for him. Mine as well not risk injury and hope you can go to a team that you can learn for a bit from a starting QB. He'd be toast if a team like Miami or Cincinnati took him.
 
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For the life of me, it seems there is always someone who comes in and spreads negativity when things seem to be going in the right direction. My daddy has a natural ability to do the same thing. While I love daddy, he's a downer....sucks any positive energy right out of a room full of joy......
 
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I think (or hope) Pruitt and staff do not look at the ratings of others or at least they dont let it influence them. If you recruit the right players, they can be developed into great players. My hope is that they are recruiting the players that they think are or can be 5 stars. Thats why we see the staff recuits a 0 star, who then gets rated to a 4 star. Once the staff gets the players, they put them in the right position and coach them to succeed. I like the ole saying about Bear Bryant or at least some old coach, "he could take hisin & beat yourin and that yourin and beat hisin." That's the kind of coach & staff I hope we have. Time will tell.
 
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Garland, Middleton, Theo Jackson, Bennett & Butler are a few that jump out to me. All of the position groups finished better down the stretch which was huge IMO.
 
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joevol33 said:
Did they really say hey, or is this sarcasm?😂
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Purple Tiger said:
Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, Doug Flutie, Pat Haden, Joe Theissman - all 6' or shorter - said hey!
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Fromm also lacks the assets that allow them to be exceptions to the rule. Fromm lacks Wilson's athleticism, Fluties arm, Brees's passing ability. All those guys were undersized but had other things to compensate. Fromm just doesn't. That's why I listed more than his height.
 
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