What type of OC do we need?

#26
#26
I want an offensive coordinator who can run the ball and help run some clock. We need to give our defense time to rest between each possession. We need to slow down and take our time since we do not have as much depth as others at this time.
 
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#27
The best fit for our program as it stands right now is an OC who is creative and unencumbered by traditional football standards. That is to say that we need someone who is willing to mold a program around the players that we have right now and develop them to fit the program that we want to run. There are some great offensive minds out there that are capable of fielding high powered offenses with a talented roster... that is not who we need. We need an OC who can be versatile enough to put players in positions to make plays. We aren't crock-potting teams like Alabama right now or blowing up the score like Oklahoma because we don't have the depth and personnel. With the right OC though, we can play more like an Oregon styled, fast paced spread offense that has more running elements to keep SEC defenses honest. I think that an offense like that allows us to make big plays and keep teams off balance until we build the depth and talent to a level where we can be more physical than finesse. We can get physical in 3 years when the roster can support it.
 
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#28
These are my favorite discussions.. I wish I had something to add.. But you guys are talking some good stuff! Keep it going!
 
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Need an OC that can consistently put 30 plus points on the board and that means some RPO or spread concepts with an uptempo game.

Even Saban relented and started changing things up a few years ago when Clemson tagged him and he consistently gets what amounts to NFL feeder teams and made the move.

UT isn't going to make a dent in recruiting against Bama or Georgia in the near future so they need someone who can create offense through scheme in the mold of Leach.

Don't see Pruitt and Fulmer doing more than paying lip service to wanting a modern offense though.

Media can say they have interviewed whoever but I'm taking all the reports with a grain of salt. Part of their problems landing someone likely stem from their wanting to meddle in the offense and keep it ground and pound.
 
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GBOVFL88 said:
We can get physical in 3 years when the roster can support it.
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I am hoping sooner, at least as far as the Offensive line goes. Especially if we actually get a commitment from Darnell Wright who says he is leaning Tennessee right now. If we get both Wright and Morris along with the 4 four stars then Pruitt has made his money and we will have just made our first big step back to relevance.
 
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A strong recruiter that can coach and make adjustments. A motivator, mentor, and leader that holds individuals accountable for their actions on and off the field.
 
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I want someone who is flexible, strategically intelligent, good recruiter, qb developer. Like Kiffin but not actually Kiffin.
 
#34
#34
Give me Wishbone!! Let them eat!! I do like pro style but in all seriousness, I just want a guy who will make GOOD adjustments.
 
#37
#37
Someone who required JG to get the ball out quick, and who can properly utilize our deep ball weapons. Not a guy who gets us in third and long and telegraphs the deep ball. A guy who schemes it up and then take his chances. Oh and give Ty more chances on the toss sweep
 
#39
#39
Success often depends on zigging when everyone else zags.

That could mean going back to a power running scheme with a FB to block today's smaller LB's as the foundation of the O.

UT was 10th in the SEC and 75th in the country in 3rd down conversions... Yeah, I know it was everyone else's fault but JG's... but no. UT's offensive problems have roughly as much to do with JG's slow decision making and ineffective pre/post snap reads as with OL failures... and especially so after the middle of the season when the OL improved a little in pass protection.
 
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at this point its a joke, just promote the water boy or field maintenance crew and be done with this. The longer we wait and debate trying to get the right guy, recruits on the offensive side of the ball will be scratching their heads wondering how they will be used in UT's offense moving forward. Also what type of offense will we be running? The longer this drags out the more it will hurt during the recruiting cycle, unfortunately they are probably offering people the position behind closed doors and have been declined. I think this has been done because as to not repeat the embarrassing coaching they did a year earlier where 10 or so coaches turned us down very publically.
 
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JettVol said:
at this point its a joke, just promote the water boy or field maintenance crew and be done with this. The longer we wait and debate trying to get the right guy, recruits on the offensive side of the ball will be scratching their heads wondering how they will be used in UT's offense moving forward. Also what type of offense will we be running? The longer this drags out the more it will hurt during the recruiting cycle, unfortunately they are probably offering people the position behind closed doors and have been declined. I think this has been done because as to not repeat the embarrassing coaching they did a year earlier where 10 or so coaches turned us down very publically.
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If this ends any way other than some either BS internal hire (Friend) or some coaching reject I will be shocked.
 
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I’ve seen talk of taking advantage of the talent you have in the stable. That is especially important given the level of our talent at this point.
I think we also need an OC who studies the upcoming opponent and is able to create an offense that will take advantage of their weaknesses.
Both of the above come down to being flexible. And, oh, making in game adjustments.
 
#46
#46
We need someone that elite QBs will look at as their ticket to the NFL like they did with Cutcliffe. That type of player attracts other great players. It's how Majors/Cutcliffe did it and Fulmer/Cutcliffe too. Look at the run of QBs that played here in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s. Other offensive players want to play with guys like that and that always helped UT land top flight classes.
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
I see your point and it brings up another interesting one. Are we, the Vol fans, prepared to be patient enough to allow a potentially great OC to recruit and build up the type of team that wins championships or someone who can get our offense running well enough to make us competitive more quickly. Honestly, if you are wanting an offense that can compete against the big dogs you are probably looking at a multiyear commitment. 3 years at least.
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If you have a "great" OC, you're not going to keep him 3 years. So, there's your answer.
 
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GBOVFL88 said:
The best fit for our program as it stands right now is an OC who is creative and unencumbered by traditional football standards. That is to say that we need someone who is willing to mold a program around the players that we have right now and develop them to fit the program that we want to run. There are some great offensive minds out there that are capable of fielding high powered offenses with a talented roster... that is not who we need. We need an OC who can be versatile enough to put players in positions to make plays. We aren't crock-potting teams like Alabama right now or blowing up the score like Oklahoma because we don't have the depth and personnel. With the right OC though, we can play more like an Oregon styled, fast paced spread offense that has more running elements to keep SEC defenses honest. I think that an offense like that allows us to make big plays and keep teams off balance until we build the depth and talent to a level where we can be more physical than finesse. We can get physical in 3 years when the roster can support it.
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Bama has physical offensive players in spades. Would you classify them as more of a physical offensive team than others right now? I wouldn't. They spread it out and chunk it downfield. What they do have is a defense that can shut down opponents well enough to keep their D from getting exhausted from being on the field too long because the offense scores too quickly. Bama's offense has evolved to the new normal.
 
#49
#49
Running the power I or any pro style offense requires big strong linemen with explosive (big ) tailbacks and fullbacks. Something we do not have nor have we recruited to during Butch Jones tenure. We have been more geared toward the read option and spread. In my opinion the spread and read option will more neutrlize the lack of talent to run the pro type offense. The Josh Dobbs tenure proved my point !!!!!
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
Thank you so much for that response. That is the actual football discussion I am looking for. My only question is do you need a lot of depth for up tempo? I still think we are going to be lacking in depth and it seems like defenses get worn out when they spend so much time on the field. Will we have the fresh legs on defense to make an up temp work?
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While depth could be important, tempo can merely be used strategically.

But the notion that defenses get worse by spending more time on the field does not hold up when data is looked at. Now, this is the NFL and conditioning is superior. It may not hold as well in college. Even if it does, you have to weigh the offensive benefits vs it.

Here is the article on tempo and a quote from the article summarizing findings:

Defense and Rest Time | Football Outsiders

"The key points:

1. Running a lot of plays on a drive does not make your defense perform better on the subsequent drive (as shown in the upper left).
2. Chewing up a lot of clock on a drive does not make your defense perform better on the subsequent drive (upper right).
3. Running a lot of plays against a defense does not make it easier to score against that defense as the game goes on (lower left).
4. Running up a lot of time of possession against a defense does not make it easier to score against that defense as the game goes on (lower right)."

But..."Putting this all together, the main -- and perhaps only -- channel through which an offense can help a defense on a per-drive basis is through field position. "

So, moving the ball is important to help the D. We just need to focus on bein efficient and doing what we do best to at least gain better field position, if we want to help our defense.
 
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