What is wrong with Harrison Bailey? Missing all star game.

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PulaskiVolFan said:
Maurer won 2 or 3 games as a Sr in the weakest district in their classification, Bailey led his team to their 1st state title in 50+ years while playing one of the toughest HS schedules in the country, BM did not have a better Sr year than Bailey and it's laughable to even suggest it.
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The numbers say otherwise. You keep saying it was a weak district and that’s why I’m so happy HB had an opportunity to play at least one team from that district in Edgewater. The final score of that game would indicate that BMs district wasn’t as weak as you thought. And what you keep missing is the fact that HB had HELP with the talent that surrounded him. BM didn’t and yet put up better individual numbers with defenses keying on only him to win. While his own gave up 45 points a game. Defenses couldn’t afford to do that with Merietta therefore taking pressure off of HB. Another thing you have to take into consideration is a 5* o lineman should neutralize a 5* d lineman correct? Well it’s the same across the board at every position. Therefore HB playing better teams holds no barring given the talent he played WITH.
 
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1vol8 said:
The numbers say otherwise. You keep saying it was a weak district and that’s why I’m so happy HB had an opportunity to play at least one team from that district in Edgewater. The final score of that game would indicate that BMs district wasn’t as weak as you thought. And what you keep missing is the fact that HB had HELP with the talent that surrounded him. BM didn’t and yet put up better individual numbers with defenses keying on only him to win. While his own gave up 45 points a game. Defenses couldn’t afford to do that with Merietta therefore taking pressure off of HB. Another thing you have to take into consideration is a 5* o lineman should neutralize a 5* d lineman correct? Well it’s the same across the board at every position. Therefore HB playing better teams holds no barring given the talent he played WITH.
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Another ridiculous statement. If what you say is true then the same would apply to college as well. There is not a single QB playing today for a lower tier 4-8 college team that is anywhere near as good as any power5 conference champion's QB. It doesn't exist in the Pros, it doesn't exist in College yet somehow it conveniently exists in the weakest district in the state of Florida in their classification. You are the only evaluator in the country claiming Maurer's Sr year to be greater than Bailey's so at least you've got that ridiculous claim to fame.
 
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1vol8 said:
The numbers say otherwise. You keep saying it was a weak district and that’s why I’m so happy HB had an opportunity to play at least one team from that district in Edgewater. The final score of that game would indicate that BMs district wasn’t as weak as you thought. And what you keep missing is the fact that HB had HELP with the talent that surrounded him. BM didn’t and yet put up better individual numbers with defenses keying on only him to win. While his own gave up 45 points a game. Defenses couldn’t afford to do that with Merietta therefore taking pressure off of HB. Another thing you have to take into consideration is a 5* o lineman should neutralize a 5* d lineman correct? Well it’s the same across the board at every position. Therefore HB playing better teams holds no barring given the talent he played WITH.
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Marietta vs Edgewater was 38-10 with 5 mins to go in the game. Edgewater was getting boat raced and their players where trying to start fights with our players. So coach put in the JV and and they scored 2 tds against our JV. So stop trying to use that crap. By the way that team was runner up to St Thomas. The team that declined to play us in the Geico bowl this year.
As for who is better who knows but it will work it’s way out in a few months. Also HB was playing this type of competition when he was 14 years old and AVG 300 yds a game. That year he had NO one go to any college. They started 11 freshman that year.
If you ask any Coach in Ga the only way to beat Marietta is to stop the pass. He has been the focus of every team ever game his whole career.
If BM’s team was losing every game he would be throwing the heck out of the ball to keep them in games. Some game HB wouldn’t throw the ball more than 18 to 20 times.
Remember this same team last season lost to a 3-7 team in the first round of the playoffs without HB on the field. So that great team he was on wasn’t so great without him. All those 5 stars didn't look so good. I could see if they played a good team but they lost in the first round to the worst team in the bracket!
 
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This is not what this thread was supposed to turn into. Anyway I can delete? Sad to read a lot of these post. One question turned into all this....amazing
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Another ridiculous statement. If what you say is true then the same would apply to college as well. There is not a single QB playing today for a lower tier 4-8 college team that is anywhere near as good as any power5 conference champion's QB. It doesn't exist in the Pros, it doesn't exist in College yet somehow it conveniently exists in the weakest district in the state of Florida in their classification. You are the only evaluator in the country claiming Maurer's Sr year to be greater than Bailey's so at least you've got that ridiculous claim to fame.
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Maybe that’s for 3 reasons....1) Qbs are NOT evaluated on individual talent within their class and 2) If #1 is any indication they are not evaluated against one another from different classes. 3) It’s because of the odds he faced every single week while putting up numbers among the best in the country. Truth is no one knows how HB will respond individually when his TEAM is overmatched.
 
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1vol8 said:
The numbers say otherwise. You keep saying it was a weak district and that’s why I’m so happy HB had an opportunity to play at least one team from that district in Edgewater. The final score of that game would indicate that BMs district wasn’t as weak as you thought. And what you keep missing is the fact that HB had HELP with the talent that surrounded him. BM didn’t and yet put up better individual numbers with defenses keying on only him to win. While his own gave up 45 points a game. Defenses couldn’t afford to do that with Merietta therefore taking pressure off of HB. Another thing you have to take into consideration is a 5* o lineman should neutralize a 5* d lineman correct? Well it’s the same across the board at every position. Therefore HB playing better teams holds no barring given the talent he played WITH.
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BTW he didn’t make that team much better because they was 2-8 with or without him.
HB stats : ——- BM stats:
16 games ——- 10 games
281-411. ——- 280-428.
69.8%. ——- 65.4%
4,672 yds. ——- 3,572 yd
50tds. ——- 35tds
10ints. —— 12ints
HB played 6 more games and attempted less pass and threw for more yds and touchdowns. So what stats are you looking at.
 
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OLB19_76 said:
BTW he didn’t make that team much better because they was 2-8 with or without him.
HB stats : ——- BM stats:
16 games ——- 10 games
281-411. ——- 280-428.
69.8%. ——- 65.4%
4,672 yds. ——- 3,572 yd
50tds. ——- 35tds
10ints. —— 12ints
HB played 6 more games and attempted less pass and threw for more yds and touchdowns. So what stats are you looking at.
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Qb debate thread going forward if you want to talk about it.
 
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1vol8 said:
That’s actually not totally true. If you include BMs rushing yards they were neck to neck in overall stats. BM 4038 total yards, 40 tds. HB 4750 yds 53 tds. The difference is BM did it in 10 games vs HB in 15. Truth is when you account for it all BM had a better senior season.
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Who played the better competition though?
 
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TennMan101 said:
When did this injury supposedly happen? He just played in his high school bowl game in Vegas a couple weeks ago.
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Over the holidays. He was busy canning whoop-ass for vol fans next year and over exerted his wrist. Nothing to worry about.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Are you saying the camera girls know more??
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I have zero doubt you know exactly what I'm saying and you disagree. I also have no doubt that neither one of us GAF about what the other thinks about it. So, Happy New Year.
 
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Isn't a lot of this discussion just football chit-chat? Everyone knows JG is going to be our starter, each and every game next year, he's that great, yes he has had some problems, but all in all, he has over come his shortcomings. There are Many posters (on this very board) that think he is a Super Vol, and next year he'll be better than Burrow ever was! Jan 2nd is just the beginning....
 
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Behr said:
I have zero doubt you know exactly what I'm saying and you disagree. I also have no doubt that neither one of us GAF about what the other thinks about it. So, Happy New Year.
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Forgot the blue font........
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
In about 2 weeks we will have arguably the best QB room in the SEC, if we are recruiting the QB position as weak as you say then so is every single program in the SEC.
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I just have a nagging feeling that everyone earmarked for that room will not be there next fall. Amirite that we should have 5? I'd be shocked if we ended 20' with 5 still in the room.
 
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I40flyer said:
Isn't a lot of this discussion just football chit-chat? Everyone knows JG is going to be our starter, each and every game next year, he's that great, yes he has had some problems, but all in all, he has over come his shortcomings. There are Many posters (on this very board) that think he is a Super Vol, and next year he'll be better than Burrow ever was! Jan 2nd is just the beginning....
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I'll allow it.
 
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livefaith said:
I just have a nagging feeling that everyone earmarked for that room will not be there next fall. Amirite that we should have 5? I'd be shocked if we ended 20' with 5 still in the room.
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They had better hurry up and do it then. 2nd semester classes start soon and anyone wanting to transfer had better hurry up and declare, otherwise I expect them all to be here in the spring. Everyone seems to forget the education part of college football and a player must have all of his academics in order if he wants a chance in the portal.
 
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