What is the Logic Behind Keeping Pruitt One More Year?

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chattavol420 said:
There is no logic to it. If we keep him and additional year it will simply be due to the ego of Philip Palmer. He wants to prove that he knew more than the previous administration. He’s made comments in the media throughout the years indicating he believes his opinions or undervalued. For the record, he was fired for having allowed the game to pass him by so many of us golf at the idea he should be involved with things and work disappointed when he was named AD. Honest to God, in his heart he has to recognize a guy like you freeze immediately elevate the team compared to what we will be next year with Pruitt. Hopefully, Palmer will choose what is in the universities best interest over trying to prove he was right. If he chooses the latter he will be fired along with Pruitt. He might have an opportunity right now to change course in easy guy pushing for change. So he could be The guy that eventually gets it right and he helps bring you tea back. Or he could be the guy that allowed his ego to get in the way of things and put us in a bigger hole than any of the previous A.D.‘s yet.
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I have lost a lot of faith in VN that no one has pointed this out as of yet, in fact, I scoff at all the previous posters in this thread. I will get down off my peddle stool now.200.gif
 
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It has nothing to do with logic. That hasn't exactly been the UT administration's thing for a long time.
 
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Knox-a-rue said:
2020 is a weird Covid year with an obviously inferior QB under center for most of it. A regular year with Pruitt's guys becoming upper class men would give a better idea of his mettle.
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Disagree. The saying “when the going gets tough , the tough get going”
2020 showed us exactly what we needed to see.
Not surprised. Looked like a DC genius in the land of milk and honey (coaching 5* at Bama)
In a Normal 2019 with not quite ideal conditions showed some flaws and lost to G st.
In really tough times sh*+ hit the fan and it fell apart.
 
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LAVol1 said:
Not even close to the talent Butch had with Dobbs, Hurd, Kamara, Barnett, Reeves-Mayben, Sutton, Malone, Jennings, Gaulden, Tuttle, Magitt, McKenzie, Todd Kelly, Phillips, John Kelly, Gaulden, Sutton, North, Moseley, Sapp, Croom, the Berry Twins, Kirkland, Vickers, Jakob Johnson, Jack Jones, Jason Robertson, Chance Hall, Kerbyson, Brett Kendrick, Wolfe, O'Brien, and others.

With a good HC, that team could have run he table. 9-4 with a 7 pt. loss to OU and 5 pt. loss to Bama. 2016 was a very good team as well, but digressed under Butch.
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Had no linemen, you don't win in the SEC AAC and MAC linemen.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Had no linemen, you don't win in the SEC AAC and MAC linemen.
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Please. If Butch hadn't held on to Don Mahoney, and then promoted Walt Wells, instead of hiring aa competent oline coach who could have made a half-decent line out of this roster:
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he'd have won the winnable games on this schedule.
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Butch is a bad HC, who makes bad decisions, and Pruitt is following in his footsteps.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
The losses from attendance will not be that high. Regardless of what anyone says, people will flock to Neyland the minute its announced stadiums can go back to no capacity limits after having to deal with for over a year. People are fooling themselves if they think massive number of people wouldn't flock to Neyland for the first few home games just because Pruitt is coach after a year where they couldn't attend games.

Neyland will be packed out the first 3 games which feature Bowling Green, Pitt, and South Alabama. If we don't GSU/BYU those games (I don't think we will because JG won't be around to plague our team), that means we get 3 cupcakes going into a SEC game likely vs Florida or Georgia or who knows, USC.


I know that is assuming a lot, but if we are undefeated rolling into conference play and our conference opener is a home game, it will be packed out.


This fan apathy that's going to cost UT 20-30 million schtick is funny to me..... Neyland will have good size attendance starting out the season. Its up to Pruitt and the Team to make sure it stays that way
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I been going to games for a long time, 90,000 would show up to watch a scrimage with the band.
 
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Here is the question no matter how you wanna slice it. Where do you get the 20+ million to buy him and his staff out? Until you can answer that this talk is pointless.

And if anyone says booster please name the booster/boosters that will cough up that kind of money that doesn't also include buying out Fulmer who signed the dumbest deal in history?

But for fun just name the boosters you know will cough up this kind of cash because you know you talked to them and they told you they would... Not what you think.

The Athletic department is broke because not only do they have to deal with the football mess they got to support every other sport Tennessee plays that doesn't earn a dime. I mean how much did the rowing team, womens golf, womens or mens tennis, volleyball, swim team, or the ever so popular softball team bring in? Enough to support themselves? Heck no. All paid for by football.

And football is broke this year.

So before we entertain this firings of Pruitt, someone explain where the money comes from?
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Tell that to Malzahn and Muschamp
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I wouldn't have fired Malzahn (except they seemed like they were already kind-of planning on it last year) and I wouldn't have hired Muschamp to begin with. I absolutely wouldn't have considered thinking about looking at Muschamp's resume.

But, valid point. Others are doing it. Are they just incompetent athletic departments? Probably not.
 
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Volfreak8 said:
Here is the question no matter how you wanna slice it. Where do you get the 20+ million to buy him and his staff out? Until you can answer that this talk is pointless.

And if anyone says booster please name the booster/boosters that will cough up that kind of money that doesn't also include buying out Fulmer who signed the dumbest deal in history?

But for fun just name the boosters you know will cough up this kind of cash because you know you talked to them and they told you they would... Not what you think.

The Athletic department is broke because not only do they have to deal with the football mess they got to support every other sport Tennessee plays that doesn't earn a dime. I mean how much did the rowing team, womens golf, womens or mens tennis, volleyball, swim team, or the ever so popular softball team bring in? Enough to support themselves? Heck no. All paid for by football.

And football is broke this year.

So before we entertain this firings of Pruitt, someone explain where the money comes from?
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Well, there is this 300 million SEC contract to start with...
 
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GVol1966 said:
Disagree. The saying “when the going gets tough , the tough get going”
2020 showed us exactly what we needed to see.
Not surprised. Looked like a DC genius in the land of milk and honey (coaching 5* at Bama)
In a Normal 2019 with not quite ideal conditions showed some flaws and lost to G st.
In really tough times sh*+ hit the fan and it fell apart.
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Maybe so. Hard times have shown us who he really is.

But I felt like he didn't think this was going to be a "real" season (heck, probably still thought the season would be canceled when August rolled around) and didn't ever really get the truck out of first gear. I mean, he played JG nearly all season. Did he really think he was going to suddenly "get it" between Arkansas and Auburn? Not even my wife would think that.

If I thought there was a coach out there who was going to make us relevant - and do it with character - I would favor blowing up the whole department to get him. I just don't think that guy exists. As things stand, I'm happy to pretend the 2020 season didn't exist and see what '21 brings.

I wouldn't be offering any extensions though.
 
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The buyout and stability issues come to mind.

If Tennessee can stay within 3 to 7 points of Texas A&M tomorrow and then win a bowl game, that will be solid momentum heading into a pivotal 2021 campaign.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
The buyout and stability issues come to mind.

If Tennessee can stay within 3 to 7 points of Texas A&M tomorrow and then win a bowl game, that will be solid momentum heading into a pivotal 2021 campaign.
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You’re kidding right?

Going 3-7 of the regular season, heading into a free crappy Bowl Game is pretty bad.

If that’s all it takes to raise this teams’ momentum then we have serious issues.
 
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Nasavol said:
If so, then you are part of the issue. You support mediocrity, instead of demanding excellence.
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Lol 95% of every program across the country must be supporting mediocrity then. You're probably proud to be one of those 5% that don't.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Lol 95% of every program across the country must be supporting mediocrity then. You're probably proud to be one of those 5% that don't.
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Because of course, 95% of college football programs are in their 15th year of a dumpster fire with a head coach going 3-7 (most likely) in his third season.
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No logic. The usual plan. “Be sure everyone is as despondent as possible and when the appropriate threshold has been reached, those that deem themselves more knowledgeable will make the decision they feel is in everyone’s best interest”
 
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Knox-a-rue said:
Maybe so. Hard times have shown us who he really is.

But I felt like he didn't think this was going to be a "real" season (heck, probably still thought the season would be canceled when August rolled around) and didn't ever really get the truck out of first gear. I mean, he played JG nearly all season. Did he really think he was going to suddenly "get it" between Arkansas and Auburn? Not even my wife would think that.

If I thought there was a coach out there who was going to make us relevant - and do it with character - I would favor blowing up the whole department to get him. I just don't think that guy exists. As things stand, I'm happy to pretend the 2020 season didn't exist and see what '21 brings.

I wouldn't be offering any extensions though.
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Sure . I guess that’s the thing Alabama did between Bear and Saban. Pretend the seasons didn’t happen and refuse to believe a better coach exists!
No , they had 6 not counting interims and the one that didn’t coach a game.
And if that crap about Pruitt not thinking this would be a “real” season excuse is remotely true then he’s even more incompetent than I can imagine. It’s his job, everyday that they hold football related activities to be committed 100% to it.
 
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Nasavol said:
If it is the buyout, you don’t really save that much. In reality, if you lose around 30% of your attendance, along with a drop off in merchandising, and it can be argued, there is a cost avoidance by cutting him loose now. I’m sure no one thinks he is going to turn anything around.
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We say this every time and every time our fans fill up the stadium. With Covid still an issue I doubt this is much of a concern.
 
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