What does depth mean?

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#26
Depth=iron sharpening iron. If your 3rd and 4th player could potentially start on a different team that means your practices become tougher than the games, which is the way you want it.
 
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Depth wins most college football games. Most of the time the starters from a huge underdog can hang with the starters of the favored team.
When the subs on both teams start playing the favored team starts pulling away.
 
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To me depth means that if someone gets hurt, or needs to come out for whatever reason, you have someone else you can put in at that position who is just as good, or almost as good, as the person who came out.
 
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tripper said:
While I don't totally disagree with your statement, when you lose your top 5 players there will always be a significant drop off in talent as we have seen. That is what loses games.
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I agree with you. I mean if Bama or LSU lose their top 5 players, they will lose some games too, but not all of them obviously because of their recruiting. And when I say games, I mean SEC games, not the built-in wins over easy teams.
 
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tripper said:
So depth equals experience? That's a ludicrous statement. If that where true, how do explain the play of the offensive line this year?
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.....other than QB the OL is the most complex and challenging coaching assignment in football.....your assumption that one year experience is going to produce an OL of championship caliber makes me laugh.......
 
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SamQB7 said:
Depth is when you have enough talented players at each position that you can sub out and give people a breather. Thus maintaining fresh legs and good players through out the entirety of a game.
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We have w winner
 
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I'm not saying this team doesn't have a depth problem,
but the reality is nobody complains about depth when you win.
It only gets mentioned in a loss.

I would like to see some responsibility.
You lost because the other team played better.
Stop making excuses.
We know the team is young.
But again, it comes down to who performed better on the field.
 
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jim285pro said:
I think alot of angry people here dont understand what depth means to a football team.

Depth= Experience with losing tough games, Experience with big plays, More physical strength, Leadership, More knowledge of playbook therefore more plays can be executed and schemed for, much less affect from injuries, mental toughness, overall maturity is much higher, etc.

All these things are contagious and overall affect the team in drastic ways. If you dont understand this you havent played alot of sports.

We had more Senior leadership and upperclassmen talent last year.

Its coming Volnation just going to take a couple more years. If you cant wait you might as well not watch the rest of this season. 12 months ago alot of these boys were playing High School football. Just some realistic facts you dont hear much from talk radio and all the pissed off fans.
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I think you've confused "depth" with "youth" or "experience", depending on how you use the term.
JMO
 
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SamQB7 said:
Depth is when you have enough talented players at each position that you can sub out and give people a breather. Thus maintaining fresh legs and good players through out the entirety of a game.
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And the effect on the whole season cannot be underestimated either. Depth means you sub players and keep them from getting beat up. They have more left at the end of the season or when you have a stretch of tough games.

Experienced and talented depth means the things the OP said PLUS you have much more ability to make in-game adjustments. You can't exactly draw from a gameplan you used last year when half your team was in HS last year.
 
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oklavol said:
I'm not saying this team doesn't have a depth problem,
but the reality is nobody complains about depth when you win.
It only gets mentioned in a loss.

I would like to see some responsibility.
You lost because the other team played better.
Stop making excuses.
We know the team is young.
But again, it comes down to who performed better on the field.
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Good grief. Please tell me you aren't that obtuse.

Depth and talent or lack thereof has a DIRECT bearing on whether you win or lose. It isn't the sole determining factor but it is a HUGE one.

You would like to see some responsibility? Next time you see Fulmer out in public ask him to take some. I'm not sure how you can blame the current staff for not winning games with players they don't have nor had the opportunity to get, develop, and keep.
 
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Pompey said:
.....other than QB the OL is the most complex and challenging coaching assignment in football.....your assumption that one year experience is going to produce an OL of championship caliber makes me laugh.......
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It is even worse than that. When you have upperclassmen leading... they help coach up the young guys. When you have no upperclassmen... the young guys have to learn by hard experience anything the coach can't teach them.
 
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10NCVol88 said:
Fail offense has lost us more games than depth issues.
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Really? That offense was pretty impressive slinging the ball and scoring points before Hunter went down. Then.... lo and behold... NO DEPTH. The next best guy behind him was Z Rogers or two true Fr.

For that matter, UT has one RB that can hang on to the ball, knows the plays, and apparently can be trusted to get carries. ONE GUY.

So do you really believe a lack of depth hasn't contributed to "fail offense"?
 
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sjt18 said:
Really? That offense was pretty impressive slinging the ball and scoring points before Hunter went down. Then.... low and behold... NO DEPTH. The next best guy behind him was Z Rogers or two true Fr.

For that matter, UT has one RB that can hang on to the ball, knows the plays, and apparently can be trusted to get carries. ONE GUY.

So do you really believe a lack of depth hasn't contributed to "fail offense"?
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Nah it's Chaney's fault, get the pitchforks out.
 
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sjt18 said:
Good grief. Please tell me you aren't that obtuse.

Depth and talent or lack thereof has a DIRECT bearing on whether you win or lose. It isn't the sole determining factor but it is a HUGE one.

You would like to see some responsibility? Next time you see Fulmer out in public ask him to take some. I'm not sure how you can blame the current staff for not winning games with players they don't have nor had the opportunity to get, develop, and keep.
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That's not the way I see it.
For example the GA game, we lost because we couldn't run the ball and the secondary played poorly.
Now you want to give reasons why we couldn't run the ball or for the socondary as being a depth issue, but it's not why we lost.
 
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oklavol said:
That's not the way I see it.
For example the GA game, we lost because we couldn't run the ball and the secondary played poorly.
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The secondary is EXTREMELY thin on experienced, talented players. UT has basically ONE RB that can be trusted to know the plays and hang on to the ball. DEPTH problems are huge in both areas.
Now you want to give reasons why we couldn't run the ball or for the socondary as being a depth issue, but it's not why we lost.
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Not depth alone but it is a big factor. Experience and development are big too. You forgot to mention that the passing game wasn't enough to win the game either. UT has no depth there either. Right now, they have one guy who ought to be in an SEC two deep. ONE. Rivera gives them another at TE. Arnett and Dallas as well as Downs and Clear may get there... but aren't there now.

There's no depth of experience on the OL either. UT has one guy starting who played behind and learned from quality upperclassmen. The others are learning OJT.
 
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sjt18 said:
The secondary is EXTREMELY thin on experienced, talented players. UT has basically ONE RB that can be trusted to know the plays and hang on to the ball. DEPTH problems are huge in both areas.


Not depth alone but it is a big factor. Experience and development are big too. You forgot to mention that the passing game wasn't enough to win the game either. UT has no depth there either. Right now, they have one guy who ought to be in an SEC two deep. ONE. Rivera gives them another at TE. Arnett and Dallas as well as Downs and Clear may get there... but aren't there now.

There's no depth of experience on the OL either. UT has one guy starting who played behind and learned from quality upperclassmen. The others are learning OJT.
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I can see a depth issue, where in the 4th quarter the defense is physically tired, especially the run defense. That's where having depth would help. But the secondary? These guys weren't getting burned because they were tired. They do not play well at the start of the game, which is pretty obvious by the fact that the starter, Teague, is probably done as a CB at UT.

Look at the Oline, we couldnt run the ball in the 1st quarter of most games. The Oline is already tired by the 1st quarter? Come on. We aren't running the ball well when they are fresh.
 
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oklavol said:
I can see a depth issue, where in the 4th quarter the defense is physically tired, especially the run defense. That's where having depth would help. But the secondary? These guys weren't getting burned because they were tired. They do not play well, which is pretty obvious by the fact that the starter, Teague, is probably done as a CB at UT.

Look at the Oline, we couldnt run the ball in the 1st quarter of most games. The Oline is already tired by the 1st quarter? Come on, there wasn't a depth issue. We aren't running the ball well when they are fresh.
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Why do you think Teague kept getting the starts even after being burned? Perhaps there was no one else behind him worth a damn. This would mean there is no depth.

Don't hurt yourself thinking too hard about that.
 
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oklavol said:
I'm not saying this team doesn't have a depth problem,
but the reality is nobody complains about depth when you win.
It only gets mentioned in a loss.

I would like to see some responsibility.
You lost because the other team played better.
Stop making excuses.
We know the team is young.
But again, it comes down to who performed better on the field.
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Maybe the other team plays better BECAUSE they have more DEPTH and don't end up getting as tired.....ever thought about that one?
 
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justingroves said:
Why do you think Teague kept getting the starts even after being burned? Perhaps there was no one else behind him worth a damn. This would mean there is no depth.

Don't hurt yourself thinking too hard about that.
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Did you watch the last game?
I thought Wagner played exceptional.
Maybe instead of a depth issue they had the wrong player at that position?
Wagner went the whole game, didn't seem to be a depth issue once you got the right player back there.
 
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