Week one SEC missed tackle rates

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BeardedVol said:
Should probably take into consideration the number of personnel that Florida played on defense, vs how many UT played...

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That would make sense if UF’s backups were lesser talented than their competitors but they weren’t. It’s irrelevant no matter how much you try to make it a legitimate point
 
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ANOTHER WAY TO SPIN THIS STAT. A lot of hustle to get into the play, but not enough to finish it!

Better to try to make the tackle and fail than not try at all!

And the guy who got blocked out, did he miss a tackle? Of course he did, but does that show up in these stats?

Useless stat in my opinion and I think football coaches will look for other ways to grade their defensive effort.
 
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Rooster1 said:
Here, think this is better
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Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist, but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. -Vince Lombardi
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.-Bill Shankly
 
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Rooster1 said:
Here, think this is better
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Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist, but football is only two things - blocking and tackling. -Vince Lombardi
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.-Bill Shankly
 
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landscapingvol said:
That would make sense if UF’s backups were lesser talented than their competitors but they weren’t. It’s irrelevant no matter how much you try to make it a legitimate point
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It's irrelevant that we had 20% missed tackles with our 1st and 2nd string in, while Florida had 18% missed, and seem to have played everyone on defense including the water boy?

You consider those situations to be the same? That would explain some of your other posts.
 
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Jack Burton said:
If we’re still at the bottom after the next two weeks I will need to re-evaluate my hobbies.
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I'm kinda thinking that after spending too much money last week going to the game. Told wife if we lose today, I won't watch another game this year, but that's impossible, right?

At the end of the day, teams aren't fixed over night. Imagine if we broke the bank on Chip Kelly and lost like UCLA did...kinda shows you can be a known "top shelf" coach, but if you don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's, it's gonna be tough.
 
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njvols said:
I'm kinda thinking that after spending too much money last week going to the game. Told wife if we lose today, I won't watch another game this year, but that's impossible, right?

At the end of the day, teams aren't fixed over night. Imagine if we broke the bank on Chip Kelly and lost like UCLA did...kinda shows you can be a known "top shelf" coach, but if you don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's, it's gonna be tough.
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A lot of new hires didn’t look great Week 1. Either they were handed a mess, or didn’t have their teams ready. We know Pruitt received a mess but can still expect good coaching to shine through every game. I don’t think we lose to ETSU but I would think many would walk away for while after a disaster like that.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's irrelevant that we had 20% missed tackles with our 1st and 2nd string in, while Florida had 18% missed, and seem to have played everyone on defense including the water boy?

You consider those situations to be the same? That would explain some of your other posts.
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Well boy wonder I would worry less about my past posts and worry more about your inability to decipher the fact that UT had to keep their 1st and 2nd string in due to the level of competition against WVU. Which of course means there are going to be more missed tackles against an opponent that is better than you. As opposed to UF’s opponent, who is worse than UF at every possible level including 3rd string. I guess you think that goofy looking avatar is supposed to make you seem tougher but it doesn’t overcome your general negativity and stupidity
 
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I was not thinking we would play that badly. But guys like Kongbo have the best seat in the house WATCHING from field level.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Well boy wonder I would worry less about my past posts and worry more about your inability to decipher the fact that UT had to keep their 1st and 2nd string in due to the level of competition against WVU. Which of course means there are going to be more missed tackles against an opponent that is better than you. As opposed to UF’s opponent, who is worse than UF at every possible level including 3rd string. I guess you think that goofy looking avatar is supposed to make you seem tougher but it doesn’t overcome your general negativity and stupidity
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May want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills, and reread the thread before you start self-aggrandizing. Actually watching the Florida Charleston Southern game would probably help as well.
 
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BeardedVol said:
May want to brush up on your reading comprehension skills, and reread the thread before you start self-aggrandizing. Actually watching the Florida Charleston Southern game would probably help as well.
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You do love to defend UF. I don’t need to read the entire thread or watch the UF game to know they were playing an inferior opponent while allowing over 200 yards rushing while missing nearly as many tackles as UT. Why can’t you grasp the fact that UF’s third stringers are more talented than their opponents 1st and 2nd stringers unless you legitimately believe they are not in which case I don’t know what to tell you. You probably also believe that a 3rd string player at UF doesn’t attend the same tackling drills 1st and 2nd string players attend. They are facing better athletes in practice than they were in the game
 
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Tn was the only team in week one that was a heavy underdog. The second point to make is that a lot was happening in our secondary and that is where we were playing three freshmen. I suppose it means the secondary is an exploitable weakness.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
We’ve always been a poorly tackle team.

Hopefully that gets cleaned up.
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The major decline started under the Dooley DC Coordinator error and continued to sink under Jones.....Just not well coached....Our players look size wise like David vs Goliath. LOS is where we are struggling on both sides of the ball.....

Painful but had to be done is the switch in defense 4-3 to 3-4 with a whole lot of creative thinking....Offensive Line....I must be missing it, but I have not seen an offensive lineman pull in years....

We will get there but it will take time......
 
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landscapingvol said:
You do love to defend UF. I don’t need to read the entire thread or watch the UF game to know they were playing an inferior opponent while allowing over 200 yards rushing while missing nearly as many tackles as UT. Why can’t you grasp the fact that UF’s third stringers are more talented than their opponents 1st and 2nd stringers unless you legitimately believe they are not in which case I don’t know what to tell you. You probably also believe that a 3rd string player at UF doesn’t attend the same tackling drills 1st and 2nd string players attend. They are facing better athletes in practice than they were in the game
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Defend Florida? So pointing out that UT and Florida's tackling numbers aren't comparable because of the fact that Florida played literally their entire defense, held a cupcake to 6 points, and had a missed tackle rate of ~18%, is not the same as UT playing their 1st-2nd string, allowing 40 points, and missing 20% of their tackles against a top-25 team?

Let me break it down for you, since you seem to be struggling. UT played a good offense, playing their 1st and 2nd string players, and had a 20% missed tackling rate. So as it stands right now, against P5 offenses our 1st and 2nd string defenders are missing 1/5 tackles. Going forward against P5 offenses, we actually have a point of reference to measure against. Florida on the other hand, played every guy on defense who suited up, against an FCS team, and missed 18% of their tackles, which tells us absolutely nothing about their tackling ability, because they played guys like Umstead Sanders and Tanner Rowell, who will never see the field in a non-cupcake game.

Unless you really do want to argue that guys who aren't even listed on Florida's depth chart, who played considerable time in this game, should be tackling at the same levels as Florida's 1st and 2nd string?
 
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landscapingvol said:
Well boy wonder I would worry less about my past posts and worry more about your inability to decipher the fact that UT had to keep their 1st and 2nd string in due to the level of competition against WVU. Which of course means there are going to be more missed tackles against an opponent that is better than you. As opposed to UF’s opponent, who is worse than UF at every possible level including 3rd string. I guess you think that goofy looking avatar is supposed to make you seem tougher but it doesn’t overcome your general negativity and stupidity
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So what you’re saying is once UF is up by 28 on us in the 4th and puts in their backups we’ll start to look really good breaking their tackles
 
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ru4real-really? said:
On the what if side:

Wilcox stayed

No Sal

Dooley gave Nick a fit every year
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Dooley's primary mission and focus here at Tennessee was to get the Complex completed. Secondary was coaching....once done...things had turned further South.

Jones hire was just a pretty boy snake oil salesman....Why build a Complex and not hire a legitimate football Coach...Jones stuck with his system and was never going to change or adjust from it. A state of being reactive versus proactive and not a great football mind.
 
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I guess those national title rings dont mean much when it actually comes to the game on the field.

Why Abernethy still has a job is beyond me.
 
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Jack Burton said:
If we’re still at the bottom after the next two weeks I will need to re-evaluate my hobbies.
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This.

One week compared to other SEC teams on opening week and most of the others playing relative cupcakes. USCe at the top against Coastal Carolina.

There's obvious room for improvement. But the sky isn't falling.

GBO
 
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