"We only have 27 guys who played in the swamp ".. CBJ

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SmilezDavis said:
And fans can't wait to cry about it as we see in this thread.
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Yep. Just one more reason he shouldn't say some of the stuff he says.

Anyway, good luck Saturday, Vols! I think y'all have the offense to win, if the defense can step it up some. Hope y'all make it two in a row!
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Dooley broke a lot of Vol fans.
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Hence the hyperventilating when he says anything goofy. They are like a bunch of scorned ex-wives LOL.

Dooley took a lot of these crybabies pride and went off into the wild blue yonder with it.

Oh well. More for the rest of us.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
In context it sounds ok, but even so, it still has a little bit of excuse feel to it -- enough that it's better left unsaid. Better to just say the typical coachspeak about it being a "challenging opponent, especially on their home turf... It'll be especially important for all our players to stay focused on doing their jobs, minimizing mistakes, playing with intesity..." etc.
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And, God forbid, "hype" the fact that we have those 27 players......point out that you'll be taking 27 players who know exactly what it takes to beat a great rival like Florida and we're confident that their leadership and understanding of the intensity and effort that it takes to win a game like this will help get the job done on Saturday.
 
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chargervol said:
If it was when he said it at the press conference, I checked it out, not as bad as it sounds here.
Paraphrasing but basically said we had to get off to a fast start because it takes a mature football team to play in the swamp and we had a low number players familiar with doing so. Basically in response to a question if we needed to get off to a fast start and he said yes and and that was his explanation as to why.

Personally would have preferred he didn't bother mentioning it but no reason for OP's dogs armpits to be chapped, I'm certain I got that wrong but hopefully close.
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I listened to the press conference live at the time and I didn't pick up on it at all. It's sort of funny I guess but maybe people hear what they want to hear. I was listening to hear about the things he thought they needed to work on and of course you sort of have to interpret the coachspeak language. At the time I actually thought he did a good job.

Here is the quote in question:

“I think you have to be able to start fast, particularly when you go on the road,” Jones said. “It’s going to be a great college football environment. Of our 70 individuals boarding the plane going to Gainesville, only 27 have ever even been in the swamp. That’s going to be a great challenge in and of itself. You have to rely on your older players, but it comes down to the discipline to execute for 60 minutes. If it takes more than 60 minutes, it takes more than 60 minutes. I think it takes a mature football team, particularly when you go on the road in this great rivalry.”
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http://www.chattanoogan.com/2017/9/13/354817/Jones-Vols-Need-A-Quick-Start-Against.aspx

He's right. We've struggled on the road.
 

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Booker512 said:
Hence the hyperventilating when he says anything goofy. They are like a bunch of scorned ex-wives LOL.

Dooley took a lot of these crybabies pride and went off into the wild blue yonder with it.

Oh well. More for the rest of us.
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Everybody's got deal with it in their own way, but that don't mean they should put their insecurities all over the web.
 
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Did anyone else just hear his embrassing interview on the Finebaum show?

He's already making excuses for why we'll lose the Florida game. He mentioned that only 27 players have played before in the Swamp. Mentioned the 3 games in 13 days. Mentioned the fact we have all these new starters. Just excuse after excuse.

So embrassing that even Finebaum had to call him out.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I listened to the press conference live at the time and I didn't pick up on it at all. It's sort of funny I guess but maybe people hear what they want to hear. I was listening to hear about the things he thought they needed to work on and of course you sort of have to interpret the coachspeak language. At the time I actually thought he did a good job.

Here is the quote in question:
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Yeah, once I heard myself, it changed my perception.
He said it was a challenge but then said what they were going to rely on to meet that challenge.
Not exactly the way it's being framed here.
But given who appears upset about it, it was always going to go this way.

Get upset first, find a way to justify it later lol.
 
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Absolutely makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Does the man not have anyone writing up his talking points who can steer him away from this crap?

And if he's coming up with it repeatedly on his own, someone really ought be in position to tell him how off-target these nuggets are.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Did anyone else just hear his embrassing interview on the Finebaum show?

He's already making excuses for why we'll lose the Florida game. He mentioned that only 27 players have played before in the Swamp. Mentioned the 3 games in 13 days. Mentioned the fact we have all these new starters. Just excuse after excuse.

So embrassing that even Finebaum had to call him out.
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Or maybe he is telling us that to make it look even more impressive when we stomp the gator piss out of them.
 
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Yep....brutal. sounded like everyday on volnation. I did like pf asking him what all those stats mean.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Everybody's got deal with it in their own way, but that don't mean they should put their insecurities all over the web.
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"I watched the Press Conference and he acted appropriately under the circumstances. If we would of beat Mich. his actions during the press conference would of seemed normal but now a lot of fans are trying to read into everything. I thought that only Vol fans did that."

Got this off the Florida boards. They are complaining about Mcelwains demeanor in his press conference. Gotta love that last sentence. LOL.

They are making fun of our fanbase bc they are a bunch of chicken littles LOL.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Good grief! Some of you get your underwear in a wad very easy.
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102455, you know I'm generally a pretty strong Butch supporter.

But he really...really...does need to stop with this "X percent of our team has never Y" stuff. I think he probably doesn't mean it this way, but it sounds a lot like excuse-making in advance. It sounds like insecurity. It sounds like hand-wringing angst.

It sounds like a lot of things, none of them good.

He really just needs to take it out of his public speaking play book.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
Or maybe he is telling us that to make it look even more impressive when we stomp the gator piss out of them.
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Nah. His goal is to just make Butch Jones look good. Once we win, he'll declare Butch Jones the best coach ever for overcoming such odds in beating a Florida team that is 0-2.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Did anyone else just hear his embrassing interview on the Finebaum show?

He's already making excuses for why we'll lose the Florida game. He mentioned that only 27 players have played before in the Swamp. Mentioned the 3 games in 13 days. Mentioned the fact we have all these new starters. Just excuse after excuse.

So embrassing that even Finebaum had to call him out.
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:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:

Call this one the Whineke Excuse Bowl. Some UF writers have done something similar. The storm is a legit concern and hindrance. They missed a day of game prep which was important... but it isn't like they didn't get a free bye week last week too. They knew that storm was coming and knew the game would be cancelled fairly early. If they didn't turn to prepping for UT then that's on them.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
102455, you know I'm generally a pretty strong Butch supporter.

But he really...really...does need to stop with this "X percent of our team has never Y" stuff. If it's not advance excuse-making, it sure sounds like it. It sounds like insecurity. It sounds like teenage angst.

It sounds like a lot of possibilities, but none of them are good.

He really just needs to take it out of his public speaking play book.
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I haven't listened to the media session, but the actual quote was posted on here. It doesn't read like an excuse. It reads like a coach being honest about the challenge of winning on the road and what they need to do to overcome the challenge in a hostile environment.
 
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wtorange said:
Did he say anything that was not true?
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The thing is just because you have all the data doesn't mean you have to give it out. I run into this problem all the time in the business world where presentations are overloaded with data and the point is lost. It's good that Butch has that data, but as a professional presenting it to the media he needs to sum it up and dumb it down. Just say something like "a lot the players that haven't been to Gainesville won in some tough environments last year and they'll have to do it again."
 
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