We’re talking playoffs???

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CAVPUT said:
Hey, it's also portal shopping season for next year. I'd hope we would be taking care of needs and working with the youngster's we might need to help us next season.
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That would be true....Heupel and company aren't noted for their portal gets however. The last I read they were one of the worst in the country this last cycle. Why with our glaring needs at several positions?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Also the polling position currently means nothing for teams 8-18..... The CFP committee will rank the teams soon and that is all that matters. Just cause a Notre Dame team with no real wins besides an on the bubble of ranked/unranked USC. For all we know, the CFP will rank them in the mid to high teens.
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It's Notre Dame. 10-2, and they're in.
 
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SubVet676 said:
It's Notre Dame. 10-2, and they're in.
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Maybe, maybe not.

A 10-2 Notre Dame isn't getting a blanket inclusion into the playoff for the sake of being 10-2. They will need some help. Take Tennessee out of it, they still need help.

Polls don't matter, but right now they are 12th in the AP which means they would be out since the best G5 champ will likely be in the mid to high teens range.

BYU and Texas Tech sandwich ND and they play each other. Whoever wins simply keeps the position in front of ND.

There is no world where Notre Dame is automatically going to the CFP just for finishing 10-2
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Maybe, maybe not.

A 10-2 Notre Dame isn't getting a blanket inclusion into the playoff for the sake of being 10-2. They will need some help. Take Tennessee out of it, they still need help.

Polls don't matter, but right now they are 12th in the AP which means they would be out since the best G5 champ will likely be in the mid to high teens range.

BYU and Texas Tech sandwich ND and they play each other. Whoever wins simply keeps the position in front of ND.

There is no world where Notre Dame is automatically going to the CFP just for finishing 10-2
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We're living in that very world. If ND finishes 10-2, they're in.

I like hot sauce on my crowburger.
 
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SubVet676 said:
We're living in that very world. If ND finishes 10-2, they're in.

I like hot sauce on my crowburger.
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They won't get in at 10-2 in the current polling environment. And if the AP and Coaches polling are keeping them on the outside looking in, the CFP is most certainly going to follow suit on the initial rankings.

But they are not getting into the playoff simply for going 10-2 without getting help. Which apparently you think is going to happen.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
They won't get in at 10-2 in the current polling environment. And if the AP and Coaches polling are keeping them on the outside looking in, the CFP is most certainly going to follow suit on the initial rankings.

But they are not getting into the playoff simply for going 10-2 without getting help. Which apparently you think is going to happen.
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You're ignoring the politics here. Humans are involved, so politics is involved.

If ND gets in at 10-2, then it means a 10-2 SEC team is likely out. No opposition from the CFP folks with B10, B12, ACC loyalties, right?

The Committee will issue a long-worded statement about how "when taking all factors into consideration, including strength of schedule; barometric pressure; planetary alignment; etc...we felt like Notre Dame was deserving of inclusion in the CFP."

The same folks who write the weekly explanations for egregious officiating errors will help the CFP Committee explain it.

Texas Pete, BTW.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Depends on what the resume of the other contenders looks like. Let's be honest. UT has had a very favorable schedule. Hardly murderers row. Against the better teams on the schedule, we're 0-2. The remainder of the schedule will reveal just how deserving UT is of playoff consideration.
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Yeah, I agree. There are seven spots left after the 5 highest seeded conference champs. Let’s just say, to be safe, that two of them are ranked out of the top 10. That leaves seven spots that must all be in the top ten. It’s highly likely that at least 3 conference champs are at least top ten teams.

So it could be close for a 2 loss team to make it, but I’d definitely say that a 2 loss TN team is deserving. Of course in the immortal words of William Munny “Deserves got nothing to do with it”! Like a prior poster pointed out, a ND loss would help.

If you guys win out, you deserve to make it all things considered. We will have to wait for the rankings that really matter to come out to have a better idea. To me though, the fact that you should have beaten GA, and the only other loss would be against Bama would give the Vols a strong resume to make the Playoff!
 
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newyorkvol said:
If Tennessee is 10-2 and misses playoffs…who cares.

I’m more worried about if we go 9-3 or worse.
Lose to OU at night at home? 🤢
Lose to Turds on the road. Again? 🤢🤢
Lose to Vandy. At home? 🤢🤢🤢
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First, if we win out, we won't miss playoffs unless there's just some perfect storm, there's been tons of weird stuff every week happening, and will continue. We just have to make sure we don't have craziness impact us, and get W's no matter what. Optics are that Vandy is toughest game left, but OK and UF will be plenty tough. Vandy has been playing outstanding ball...but the fact that we play them last, could work in our favor because as the injury bug hits everyone, their second level depth probably has a larger fall off than Vols.
 
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Tnphil said:
I said in August this team isn't a playoff team and I still say it today....Even at 10-2. Syracuse....Ark.... Mississippi State....KY are a combined 11-21 with only Miss State being at .500 at 4-4. All these teams scored a lot of points against our faulted defense. Lol
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And you would still be wrong there aren't 12 better teams than Tennessee in the country
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Point Differential a Factor in the SEC it could be.

Point differential in a non competitive league is senseless. In the SEC it may make a difference because of the competition minus a head to head for teams will similar opponents. Ky game we maintained a lead and added to it. Who knows what will happen. Three teams in front or same as us we don't play Texas A&M and Ole Miss and Missouri.

Ole Miss common opponents, KY, FL, GA, MS St, OK, Ark. Ole with one more loss this may come into play.

Texas A&M common Opponents 3 Arkansas, FL, Mississippi ST not a real chance here.

Missouri 5 common opponents Vandy, OK, Miss ST, Ark, AL

Texas 7 Common opponents, Vandy, Ky, Ark, GA, MS St, Ok, FL

Vandy Head to Head Actually think Vandy will go 2-2 down this stretch or 1-3 with an upset because of the grind.

GA, Alabama - no chance to over come in a points race I may be wrong but I don't think so.

Bottom Line for us is to Win the Rest with Vandy as possibly a play in game key game.
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none of that matters to the playoff committee...lol
 
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DirtyDawg said:
Seriously, who cares!?! I would think that most Vol fans care! Hell, I’m a GA fan, and I’d care if you guys win out and are left out! It would be complete BS! Every CFB fan knows this!

I do understand your point about it not being an easy task to win out though, but if you guys do win out, it would be ridiculous to keep TN out of the Playoff.
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I think what he means is if we take care of business, win out, and still somehow dont make the playoffs then its due to circumstances out of our hands and there would be no reason to be upset with ourselves with how the season transpired.
 
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Tnphil said:
That would be true....Heupel and company aren't noted for their portal gets however. The last I read they were one of the worst in the country this last cycle. Why with our glaring needs at several positions?
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My guess is that they either have complete faith in their evals and development of their recruits or they're lazy or simply don't have the money.
 
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Ned Ray McWorkher said:
Look at the rest of their 📅. NC State. Pitt. BC. And they usually give Georgia a good match. 11-1 is a lower end expectation. They could win all of those games. They could become a committee darling..
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I’m curious to see what a combo of them losing at home to Georgia AND Tennessee beating a 10-1 Vandy would do in rankings.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
And you would still be wrong there aren't 12 better teams than Tennessee in the country
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Only need 11, and the CFP Committee is going to disagree with you. I seriously applaud your arguments in favor of the Vols, but (a) I have a feeling UT won't finish 10-2 (and I'm wrong a lot); if they do they're still in the 5-6 slot in the SEC; no way the CFP puts 5 SEC teams in a 12 (essentially 11) team playoff.

Just not in the cards this year. Had we won against UGA or Bama...both of which we could have done...it's a different conversation.

Maybe next year...
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I’m curious to see what a combo of them losing at home to Georgia AND Tennessee beating a 10-1 Vandy would do in rankings.
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I think they moved that game to the Dome.

We need a Vandy team that wins out to give us our biggest win. It's in our best interest that they at least have 9 wins when they get here. Hopefully 10. A top 5 Vandy in Neyland would be nutso.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Depends on what the resume of the other contenders looks like. Let's be honest. UT has had a very favorable schedule. Hardly murderers row. Against the better teams on the schedule, we're 0-2. The remainder of the schedule will reveal just how deserving UT is of playoff consideration.
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Again all this talk about making the playoffs is nauseating! I propose that we expand the playoff to 100 teams and then since making the playoffs seems to be the obsession now everyone can get a participation trophy and claim a successful season even with 7-5 record!!what do yall think??
 
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Usaf redhorse said:
Again all this talk about making the playoffs is nauseating! I propose that we expand the playoff to 100 teams and then since making the playoffs seems to be the obsession now everyone can get a participation trophy and claim a successful season even with 7-5 record!!what do yall think??
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Tnphil said:
That would be true....Heupel and company aren't noted for their portal gets however. The last I read they were one of the worst in the country this last cycle. Why with our glaring needs at several positions?
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LSU, Auburn, Kentucky and UNC were all in the top 10 in most portal rankings. How's that working out?
 
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SubVet676 said:
It's Notre Dame. 10-2, and they're in.
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Book it Notre Dame will be in if they win out, and I don't see a decent team left on their schedule. I don't think they should but I think the committee will put them in. Because of the way the committee looks at things is why in this day and time you should put all the points possible when you play a team. For example both us and Notre Dame played Ark. and they will also play Syracuse. If we both end up with identical records of 10-2 they will look a the point spread on those two games. In the old days we did the right thing of not scoring on our last drive against Ark. but in todays game, you score if you can.
 
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