Watershed moment for Hamilton....

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I don't expect it, but Mike Hamilton could take ownership of this program once and for all by excerting some influence and making a strong OC hire. If he makes Fulmer go outside the program for this hire, he could possibly have the same type of impact he had on the basketball team.
 
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The AD should either allow the hfc to hire whoever he wants as assistants or go ahead and fire him. If you don't have the confidence that the guy can make the right hires then why keep him around?
 
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I wholeheartedly agree with you, but the opportunity is undeniably there. If he doesn't the curtain will be pulled back for the entire Volnation to see what the AD is really made of.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
The AD should either allow the hfc to hire whoever he wants as assistants or go ahead and fire him. If you don't have the confidence that the guy can make the right hires then why keep him around?
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"Help me help you" :eek:lol: I can see it now.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
The AD should either allow the hfc to hire whoever he wants as assistants or go ahead and fire him. If you don't have the confidence that the guy can make the right hires then why keep him around?
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The AD should be involved in any hire that is made. He should provide oversight and insure the best interests of the University and program are observed. Anything less and he's not doing his job.
 
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I don't know why we're even talking about it LOL. There's no one to get, and if there were we know Phil is going to keep it in the family. Get ready to say Coach Adkinns.

Man I hope I'm wrong.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I wholeheartedly agree with you, but the opportunity is undeniably there. If he doesn't the curtain will be pulled back for the entire Volnation to see what the AD is really made of.
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I see what you're thinking, but this is just not one of those things that is going to land on the AD. This is Fulmer's hand. How he plays it will say a lot about his future.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
The AD should be involved in any hire that is made. He should provide oversight and insure the best interests of the University and program are observed. Anything less and he's not doing his job.
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I tend to agree with you Boro. If Mike was really calling the shots, he could go to CPF and say "I went to bat for you, so don't screw this up". Phil has an opportunity to be innovative, and Hammy has an opportunity to prove he is not a puppet.

Unfortunately we typically are what we are.
 
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At the very least, if nothing else, Hammy should have the power to hold him accountable for his decision.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
The AD should be involved in any hire that is made. He should provide oversight and insure the best interests of the University and program are observed. Anything less and he's not doing his job.
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There should be some hiring criteria, of course. I just think you really hamstring the coach if you don't let him hire who he thinks will do the best job. At that point accountability is further eroded because when the stuff hits the fan the AD and the HFC will be pointing fingers at each other.
 
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Lexvol said:
I tend to agree with you Boro. If Mike was really calling the shots, he could go to CPF and say "I went to bat for you, so don't screw this up". Phil has an opportunity to be innovative, and Hammy has an opportunity to prove he is not a puppet.

Unfortunately we typically are what we are.
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You summed up my feelings better than I did. Nearly anywhere else, this hire might define the future of the coach and AD. I'm not sure that is the case here.
 
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thats one of the main problems with the program, staying with the " family". fulmer is too much of a control freak to let someone that has not been groomed to run right, run left, pass for two yards on third and long and punt. thats the way we roll.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
There should be some hiring criteria, of course. I just think you really hamstring the coach if you don't let him hire who he thinks will do the best job. At that point accountability is further eroded because when the stuff hits the fan the AD and the HFC will be pointing fingers at each other.
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You know what would be funny, if Hamilton goes to Fulmer with a list of names and urges him to pick from the list, and Fulmer refuses. Would Fulmer do what Cutcliffe did at Ole Miss when they told him to revamp his staff and just resign?

I say no...
 
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if we could get chavis to leave, any chance Fulmer loses his interest and does wind up retiring soon?
 
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Fine Vol said:
If he leaves it will suck for our QB.
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there's other qb coaches out there. it's hard to say Cut is all that great when his two best pupils were Mannings. It's not like their dad had no input on how they came out. His other star pupil is Ainge? Please, i'm not Ainge hater, but I'd take Kelly, Shuler, and Casey Clausen all over Ainge.
 
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This makes me both excited and a little scared at the same time. I know he could make a statement with a HC but just not sure how much he'll push on the OC. Oh well, guess I'll just listen and hope.
 
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It will be fulmer's call, I doubt Hamilton would try to micromanage in that respect. It would be kind of hypocritical if he did... you go public with placing your full confidence in fulmer, but then don't let him pick the staff?

The most Hamilton would do is gently whisper in fulmer's ear... and we will never know if that occurs or not.
 
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volfanbill said:
there's other qb coaches out there. it's hard to say Cut is all that great when his two best pupils were Mannings. It's not like their dad had no input on how they came out. His other star pupil is Ainge? Please, i'm not Ainge hater, but I'd take Kelly, Shuler, and Casey Clausen all over Ainge.
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You and any other reasonable person would choose those 3 QB's over Ainge.

Like I've said, this guy is the Phil Jackson of offensive coordinators. He's been blessed to coach 2 sons of an NFL player, just like Jackson was fortunate enough to coach Jordan/Pippen and Shaq/the rapist.
 
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