War in Ukraine

[BernardKingGOAT]

Seems another weekend and I’m in your head like the color red ( MAGA hats, red carpets) even when I’m asleep. Why would I pat myself on the back when I have you do it for me.

Your last pick in gym mentality is showing in your later years.

This is your best work to date

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

So are the Balkans rightful Turkish land? They were controlled by the Ottomans for centuries.

Is Taiwan part of China? They were under Beijing’s control until 1949. May as well just lay down their guns and let the CCP roll over em.

Is Ireland part of the UK? The English controlled Ireland for almost a millennium. Far longer than the Ruskies controlled Ukraine.

Is Brazil part of Portugal? Is Cuba part of Spain? Hell, is Finland part of Russia?

No, they all have self determination and aren’t beholden to somebody else just because of historical claims. Same with Ukraine and every other post Soviet state.

Northern Ireland is still actually part of the UK

 

[NorthDallas40]

This is your best work to date

 

[HeuperDrive]

Northern Ireland is still actually part of the UK

I’m well aware of that

There just so happens to be the remainder of it that isn’t under British control

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I’m well aware of that

There just so happens to be the remainder of it that isn’t under British control

It's funny for the Olympics, the Northern Ireland people compete for Ireland

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

It's funny for the Olympics, the Northern Ireland people compete for Ireland

That's okay. The University of California, Berkeley which is about 2 miles from the San Francisco Bay of the Pacific Ocean currently competes in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

That's okay. The University of California, Berkeley which is about 2 miles from the San Francisco Bay of the Pacific Ocean currently competes in the Atlantic Coast Conference.

Yeah, I am aware. That's a little different

 

[TheDirector]

The definition of insanity.................

Von der Leyen sees 19th sanctions package against Russia in early September

 

[MontyPython]

So your solut

I’m glad you know how to copy and paste from AI. But you only seem to have proved what I stated. We’ve had ceasefires and yet, the war continues

So your "solution" is DON'T have a ceasefire now, instead continue fighting.

Genius.

Also 100% opposite of Trump's position going into the talks with Putin.

 

[Vol8188]

So your solut

So your "solution" is DON'T have a ceasefire now, instead continue fighting.

Genius.

Also 100% opposite of Trump's position going into the talks with Putin.

Not at all. I’m not opposed to a ceasefire. I’m stating a ceasefire doesn’t mean an automatic end to the war as you proclaimed

 

[MontyPython]

Not at all. I’m not opposed to a ceasefire. I’m stating a ceasefire doesn’t mean an automatic end to the war as you proclaimed

You want a guarantee? Buy a toaster.

If Putin agrees to a ceasefire that freezes the current front lines, you actually think Zelenskyy would not agree to it?

If no, why not?

EDIT: Per @BeardedVol, Ukraine already agreed to a ceasefire, so the only obstacle to it was Putin. And he refused. But, obviously, had Putin agreed to a ceasefire, it's probably be in place right now and the war would likely be over.

 

[BeardedVol]

You want a guarantee? Buy a toaster.

If Putin agrees to a ceasefire that freezes the current front lines, you actually think Zelenskyy would not agree to it?

If no, why not?

Zelensky has already agreed to a ceasefire once, but Putin refused.

Ukraine agrees to US-proposed cease-fire with Russia as Washington lifts intelligence, military aid holds

The US will resume sharing intelligence with Ukraine and end its pause on military aid to the eastern European country — but officials in Moscow were already signaling the agreement was a non…

nypost.com

 

[Vol8188]

You want a guarantee? Buy a toaster.

If Putin agrees to a ceasefire that freezes the current front lines, you actually think Zelenskyy would not agree to it?

If no, why not?

EDIT: Per @BeardedVol, Ukraine already agreed to a ceasefire, so the only obstacle to it was Putin. And he refused. But, obviously, had Putin agreed to a ceasefire, it's probably be in place right now and the war would likely be over.

They’ve agreed to ceasefires before. And the war is not over. Idk how you’re failing to understand this.

Hamas and Israel have agreed to ceasefires before and the war is not over.

Agreeing to a ceasefire does not guarantee an end to a war.

 

[Vol8188]

Zelensky has already agreed to a ceasefire once, but Putin refused.

Ukraine agrees to US-proposed cease-fire with Russia as Washington lifts intelligence, military aid holds

The US will resume sharing intelligence with Ukraine and end its pause on military aid to the eastern European country — but officials in Moscow were already signaling the agreement was a non…

nypost.com

Putin has agreed to temporary ceasefires in the past that Ukraine refused

 

[apevol]

You think Putin is going to use a nuke? That's absurd and you know it. A nuke threat over a land grab? C'mon.

Putin is a lowlife murdering bully but he's not suicidal.

bush implied a nuclear threat for anyone interfering in our invasion of Iraq

the real problem here is, contrary to norris's interpretation of history..it had been assumed since the end of wwII that war for land was no longer acceptable, or even feasible, in large part due to nuclear weapons. now Russia is essentially using the nuclear threat to make a very clumsy and embarrassing attempt at a land grab.

 

[BeardedVol]

Putin has agreed to temporary ceasefires in the past that Ukraine refused

Lol, the 3-day ceasefire so he could have his parade?

 

[apevol]

It's funny for the Olympics, the Northern Ireland people compete for Ireland

what about loyalist athletes?

little protestant figure skaters humming the tune to into the mystic, skating for Ireland?

 

[Vol8188]

Lol, the 3-day ceasefire so he could have his parade?

According to Zelenskyy there’s a total of 25 ceasefires Putin has agreed to since 2014. But, yes. That’s one of them. Along with Easter, Christmas, and others.

Point still stands. Temporary ceasefires do not guarantee a war ends.

 

[Vol8188]

Self-determination is stupid.

Agreed. I will now be making all future decisions for you. I don’t want you to have to deal with the stupidity that is, self determination

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

what about loyalist athletes?

little protestant figure skaters humming the tune to into the mystic, skating for Ireland?

Never thought about it. You seem bothered by it though. Why would you care about it?

 

[apevol]

Never thought about it. You seem bothered by it though. Why would you care about it?

i dont even know how i feel about it. would make for some awkward locker rooms back in the 90s i bet

 

[MontyPython]

They’ve agreed to ceasefires before. And the war is not over. Idk how you’re failing to understand this.

Hamas and Israel have agreed to ceasefires before and the war is not over.

Agreeing to a ceasefire does not guarantee an end to a war.

I'll repeat my question you've avoided:

If Putin agrees to a ceasefire that freezes the current front lines, you actually think Zelenskyy would not agree to it?

If no, why not?

 

[Vol8188]

I'll repeat my question you've avoided:

If Putin agrees to a ceasefire that freezes the current front lines, you actually think Zelenskyy would not agree to it?

If no, why not?

He likely would, but he’s refused ceasefires before.

Either way, you’re intentionally confusing “ceasefire” and “end of the war”.

 

[volbound1700]

So are the Balkans rightful Turkish land? They were controlled by the Ottomans for centuries.

Is Taiwan part of China? They were under Beijing’s control until 1949. May as well just lay down their guns and let the CCP roll over em.

Is Ireland part of the UK? The English controlled Ireland for almost a millennium. Far longer than the Ruskies controlled Ukraine.

Is Brazil part of Portugal? Is Cuba part of Spain? Hell, is Finland part of Russia?

No, they all have self determination and aren’t beholden to somebody else just because of historical claims. Same with Ukraine and every other post Soviet state.

Tibet wants to leave China, should we go to war with China to free Tibet? Why is it our duty to solve issues that are not our business. Ukraine falling to Russia would do nothing to harm our national security or threaten us. I also think Ukraine is still going to be alive after all of this anyways.

 

[volbound1700]

Agreed. I will now be making all future decisions for you. I don’t want you to have to deal with the stupidity that is, self determination

Woodrow Wilson came up with the concept in the 1910s. You guys are zombies to it and it has lead the USA into unnecessary war after unnecessary war and arguably helped cause WW2 as well.