War in Ukraine

[BreatheUT]

Holy revelation, Batman! Beard wants to defund Israel.

Or dropped his neocon mask, and started randomly growling at ankles and yelping about whatever happens by, like a “news” “personality.” Audition for The View already.

I think a fair point is Israel getting freebies vs our request for Ukraine to pay the US back?

 

[LSU-SIU]

That last sentence wasn't what you were advocating for at all....... You're moving the goalposts now because you can't defend the original idiocy.

No I am not. This thread.

2022: Russia is the bad guys they invaded, the Ukraine and Europe are our friends. We didn't overthrow their government or install a puppet government.
2023: Russia is the bad guys they invaded, the Ukraine and Europe are our friends. We didn't overthrow their government or install a puppet government.
2024: Russia is the bad guys they invaded, the Ukraine and Europe are our friends. We didn't overthrow their government or install a puppet government.
2025: Please please don't tell our friends we not only we overthrew their government, install a puppet government and admit our government was responsible for domestic terrorism.

The Orange man knows, he has all data now, which is why governments are already asking for were these funds were going in including now Eastern Europe. This is why the government's position now is that Russia really didn't start this.... not really. They are not our friends... .never were our friends or there would be no reason to be scared of admitting to assets there.

Of course, we did have that one guy in the thread that said, yes, the U.S. is doing all this stuff because well they all die and we don't. Pure evil.


Nice work John, you evil man.

 

[BeardedVol]

Putin doing what Trump and MAGA can't: actually admit that Russia is the aggressor.

 

[volbound1700]

Putin doing what Trump and MAGA can't: actually admit that Russia is the aggressor.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Volbucky]

Putin doing what Trump and MAGA can't: actually admit that Russia is the aggressor.

What does pointing out the aggressor solve for us?

 

[Orange.]

That’s not what he said.

You can add those two to the propaganda and unreliable sources list.

 

[KB5252]

No I am not. This thread.

2022: Russia is the bad guys they invaded, the Ukraine and Europe are our friends. We didn't overthrow their government or install a puppet government.
2023: Russia is the bad guys they invaded, the Ukraine and Europe are our friends. We didn't overthrow their government or install a puppet government.
2024: Russia is the bad guys they invaded, the Ukraine and Europe are our friends. We didn't overthrow their government or install a puppet government.
2025: Please please don't tell our friends we not only we overthrew their government, install a puppet government and admit our government was responsible for domestic terrorism.

The Orange man knows, he has all data now, which is why governments are already asking for were these funds were going in including now Eastern Europe. This is why the government's position now is that Russia really didn't start this.... not really. They are not our friends... .never were our friends or there would be no reason to be scared of admitting to assets there.

Of course, we did have that one guy in the thread that said, yes, the U.S. is doing all this stuff because well they all die and we don't. Pure evil.


Nice work John, you evil man.

Your exact words here:

I absolutely think the CIA assets in Europe, Ukraine and Russia should be identified to the host countries so they can hang'em.


No carve out for what is legal etc. you advocated for compromising our intelligence assets in Europe, Ukraine and Russia, with no regard to the damage that would do to our intelligence communities and partners worldwide, that's mind numbingly stupid.

No walking that back, it's in black and white. Perhaps that's was just you being hyperbolic but words matter.

 

[LouderVol]

LouderVol and BeardedVol, why don't you make more noise about this war? Rwanda is invading a sovereign nation. Shouldn't we be sending Congo weapons and help them stop the evil invaders from Rwanda?

why the heck did you lump me into this?

I am against our involvement, especially with the Biden levels. but that doesn't make Russia the good guys.

 

[LouderVol]

Great idea. We were once allies.

Give peace a chance.

when the heck were we ever allies with Russia? the boxer rebellion?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

when the heck were we ever allies with Russia? the boxer rebellion?

When they clapped at the end of Rocky 4.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Your exact words here:

I absolutely think the CIA assets in Europe, Ukraine and Russia should be identified to the host countries so they can hang'em.


No carve out for what is legal etc. you advocated for compromising our intelligence assets in Europe, Ukraine and Russia, with no regard to the damage that would do to our intelligence communities and partners worldwide, that's mind numbingly stupid.

No walking that back, it's in black and white. Perhaps that's was just you being hyperbolic but words matter.

They did that to themselves by using my tax dollars for evil purposes. Do I think they will ever show other countries everything, probably not, everyone wants transparency.... but we keep going back to the same thing... people really don't want the Truth. These people did it for greed for the most part, I won't shed a tear. The people that were involved here need to go to jail if they were involved in certain operations and there is legal path for it.

The only thing going on now is the Truth is being exposed.... what is the Truth? None of these countries were our friends... don't worry they were conspiring against the a President-elect, President and former President. Unfortunately, their people are going to have to pay a serious price as the neocons set this one up like a piece of Art... near perfect. The neocons were always going to win, it was just a matter of what they win.... they didn't get the big fish i.e. Russia, but they'll get Europe in the end.

"F*** the EU" - Nuland

 

[LSU-SIU]

when the heck were we ever allies with Russia? the boxer rebellion?

Why not now? How about we just try and stop a little of what we have been doing? They don't have to be allies, but why not? Why can't we just be decent?


Let's start with, let's just be decent.

As far as the Ukraine, its being split up... that can be done with or without them (Ukraine) it would seem. Not much different than Germany after WWII.

(You guys have a good day, weather is finally nice and I can get some work done)

 

[LouderVol]

Why not now? How about we just try and stop a little of what we have been doing? They don't have to be allies, but why not? Why can't we just be decent?


Let's start with, let's just be decent.

As far as the Ukraine, its being split up... that can be done with or without them (Ukraine) it would seem. Not much different than Germany after WWII.

why be decent to someone who actively runs counter to your own interests? They are a military threat with expansionist goals, its not like they are Switzerland, neutral and trading with everyone.

Russia has never had friends, they only know how to have subjects.

 

[jwells]

The only reason we became so heavily involved was to cover up Obama and Biden's corruption. Give Z to Putin, then perform the biggest audit of all time on where the money went, because the vast majority didn't go to fighting Russia. In fact, our dollars helped prolong the inevitable and led to hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian deaths.

Lol, dude.
Expand your depth of knowledge.

The US-Russia-Ukraine Trilateral Statement and Annex​

Where'd the majority of the money go? To US arms manufacturers.

Our dollars helped prevent the capitulation of a sovereign state to an invading force. Jesus.

 

[KB5252]

They did that to themselves by using my tax dollars for evil purposes. Do I think they will ever show other countries everything, probably not, everyone wants transparency.... but we keep going back to the same thing... people really don't want the Truth. These people did it for greed for the most part, I won't shed a tear. The people that were involved here need to go to jail if they were involved in certain operations and there is legal path for it.

The only thing going on now is the Truth is being exposed.... what is the Truth? None of these countries were our friends... don't worry they were conspiring against the a President-elect, President and former President. Unfortunately, their people are going to have to pay a serious price as the neocons set this one up like a piece of Art... near perfect. The neocons were always going to win, it was just a matter of what they win.... they didn't get the big fish i.e. Russia, but they'll get Europe in the end.

"F*** the EU" - Nuland

Like you so often do you avoid the subject and deflect. Literally all over the place. It's hard to keep up, well not hard......... Just exhausting.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

What does pointing out the aggressor solve for us?

Doesn't it point to credibility? Russia is not an ally. Do we sit back and let Russia invade other countries as well? The military budget is as big as it is to protect American interest AND Democracy around the globe. I guess it's different now....

 

[LSU-SIU]

why be decent to someone who actively runs counter to your own interests? They are a military threat with expansionist goals, its not like they are Switzerland, neutral and trading with everyone.

Russia has never had friends, they only know how to have subjects.

I don't see that way, maybe because I feel like I broke the bounds of indoctrination? Nobody is a threat to you, nor is anyone really doing anything to you... the only way you have a problem in this country is internal. Maybe I feel different because of my travels and saw the world differently. What you are talking about failed about the time South Vietnam failed, "the communist are coming". Well, I hate to break to you... they're already here and they didn't need to fire a weapon.

Russia has never had friends

I said, let;s start with being decent.... that is the problem.... what you are doing isn't friendly to anyone nor decent. Nor are you attempting to get along. We're not friends with Europe or the Ukraine, nor do I think we have been decent to the Ukraine.

Not being evil would be a great start.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Like you so often do you avoid the subject and deflect. Literally all over the place. It's hard to keep up, well not hard......... Just exhausting.

No, you are just not getting the result that you want. You want the lie, which is why loonies are mad at Trump on the Ukraine, he is just saying the Truth.

The Ukraine lost as I mentioned because not only don't they have any winning cards, they never had a card... they were playing the lottery. Europe is on deck and there isn't anything anyone can do about it, not that I think we should anyway. The U.S. set them up, and the people that helped.... if they die, they probably deserve it in my book.

No cares for Europe at this point and I lived there for number of years, and obviously they were not our friends.

If everyone was right in this thread.... we wouldn't be here.

 

[LSU-SIU]

About what I previously said the other day as far as the agreement. The train is about to leave the station without the midget....

I doubt its actually worth much, yes, it would probably take 10 generations to pay it back under this agreement minimum ROI if at all.

(the meeting with the treasury sec. went actually much worse than is being reports)

Back to work for me, ya'll have a great day.

 

[KB5252]

No, you are just not getting the result that you want. You want the lie, which is why loonies are mad at Trump on the Ukraine, he is just saying the Truth.

The Ukraine lost as I mentioned because not only don't they have any winning cards, they never had a card... they were playing the lottery. Europe is on deck and there isn't anything anyone can do about it, not that I think we should anyway. The U.S. set them up, and the people that helped.... if they die, they probably deserve it in my book.

No cares for Europe at this point and I lived there for number of years, and obviously they were not our friends.

If everyone was right in this thread.... we wouldn't be here.

Stay on topic, we were specifically talking about you calling for the outing of intelligence assets without regard to law, intelligence capabilities or what that would do to intelligence apparatus worldwide.

I realize you want to avoid that stupid comment but you made it....... Now you are just trying to deflect by saying look over here, that thing happened.

I'm not for or anti Trump per se. But I don't support him completely alienating Europe. We actually need them, in case you haven't noticed we don't really have any other allies right now save Israel who literally has their hands full at the moment with a crisis of their own.

I'm very skeptical of his foreign policy at the moment.

 

[dalton_vol]

Is Europe gonna puts in the ground in ukraine?

 

[apevol]

They did that to themselves by using my tax dollars for evil purposes. Do I think they will ever show other countries everything, probably not, everyone wants transparency.... but we keep going back to the same thing... people really don't want the Truth. These people did it for greed for the most part, I won't shed a tear. The people that were involved here need to go to jail if they were involved in certain operations and there is legal path for it.

The only thing going on now is the Truth is being exposed.... what is the Truth? None of these countries were our friends... don't worry they were conspiring against the a President-elect, President and former President. Unfortunately, their people are going to have to pay a serious price as the neocons set this one up like a piece of Art... near perfect. The neocons were always going to win, it was just a matter of what they win.... they didn't get the big fish i.e. Russia, but they'll get Europe in the end.

"F*** the EU" - Nuland

you want transparency from intelligence agencies?


why dont we just lube up our own buttholes ffs

 

[apevol]

Stay on topic, we were specifically talking about you calling for the outing of intelligence assets without regard to law, intelligence capabilities or what that would do to intelligence apparatus worldwide.

I realize you want to avoid that stupid comment but you made it....... Now you are just trying to deflect by saying look over here, that thing happened.

I'm not for or anti Trump per se. But I don't support him completely alienating Europe. We actually need them, in case you haven't noticed we don't really have any other allies right now save Israel who literally has their hands full at the moment with a crisis of their own.

I'm very skeptical of his foreign policy at the moment.

hes made the same comment multiple times. I've been waiting for someone to say something because anyplace that allows such unhinged buffonery to go unchecked ain't worth hanging out in

 

[KB5252]

hes made the same comment multiple times. I've been waiting for someone to say something because anyplace that allows such unhinged buffonery to go unchecked ain't worth hanging out in

I think everyone is just immune to it at this point, they've seen him do it so often it doesn't even register.

But every once in a while I see one so over the top I can't help but notice it.

Not sure where he gets his talking points but I'm fairly confident he's just seeking validation of his preconceived beliefs.