Want To Know What's Really Embarrassing?

I doubt that very many see my posts on here, because I work for a living and can't be on here patrolling for the nega vols, but it is just what I say time after time. Folks, unless you were around during the General's coaching tenures you really can't talk about the glory of Tennessee football. Johnny Majors began a trip back to that type of football, but people wanted the blowout wins, so they chunked Johnny for Phil. He had a winning percentage that was great until you look at it under the microscope. Do some research on your own and see what I mean. The results will make you think about all this negativity.:dry:

People wanted Majors gone because he interfered with an undefeated run headed by Fulmer out of sheer jealousy by jumping out of his sick bed and getting back on the sideline. Three games later - three lossses, with the embarrassing loss to SEC-newcomer Carolina being the final straw. Majors dug his own grave.
 
Why does it seem that everyone is always down no matter what happens on the field. I agree that stats dont lie but Coach Dooley inherited a mater soup sandwhich. I dont think any coach would have done much better given the same circumstances. Maybe a few instances go different, maybe. Lets try and remain positive and hold our judgements until the end of the season. Besides, thier is still a good possiblity we could go 8-4,9-3 or dare i say 10-2.:whistling:
 
Listening to the ESPN guys defending Romo's 5 picks makes me think of UT fans who support Dooley no matter what. Tonight Trent Dilfer made excuses for Romo in spite of his 5 picks. That reminds me of all the DD supporters who choose him over the University of Tennessee. Then they have the nerve to challenge realistic peoples fan hood.
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Jesus man why don't you just shut the ***** up already.. You sound like this babbling idiot in my office... We are what we are for the time being. Improvements are being made. If you expected to win more than 8 games with this team this year, then you were probably the one that put all your eggs in winning the lottery to cover your trailer payment this month.. You sir are officially IGNORED!
 
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Why does it seem that everyone is always down no matter what happens on the field. I agree that stats dont lie but Coach Dooley inherited a mater soup sandwhich. I dont think any coach would have done much better given the same circumstances. Maybe a few instances go different, maybe. Lets try and remain positive and hold our judgements until the end of the season. Besides, thier is still a good possiblity we could go 8-4,9-3 or dare i say 10-2.:whistling:

welcome to VN
 
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I believe Tiny was quoted saying something along the lines of "there's no other team,university, or coach that I'd rather play for." So my question is, if our players can back our coach and support him why can't you? I'm not saying agree with every decision he makes or run around praising Dooley, but bashing somone doesn't bring anything about. If Dooley loses his job at the end of the year has nothing to do with any majority of fans leaning one direction or another. It's Hart's decision and creating thread after thread throughout the week to try an bash the guy is just pointless and classless. Just let them go out there and play some football
 
Why does it seem that everyone is always down no matter what happens on the field. I agree that stats dont lie but Coach Dooley inherited a mater soup sandwhich. I dont think any coach would have done much better given the same circumstances. Maybe a few instances go different, maybe. Lets try and remain positive and hold our judgements until the end of the season. Besides, thier is still a good possiblity we could go 8-4,9-3 or dare i say 10-2.:whistling:

"mater soup sandwhich" :)

Welcome to VN.
 
As stated before Romo's performance is what Bray will look like in the pros. Both are turn overs waiting to happen.
 
Really good SEC teams have many guys drafted into the NFL every year.

Tennessee has had 3 or 4 drafted in the last 4 years and THAT is certainly NOT having a SEC type player roster so CDD was way behind when he got here and NOBODY else would even consider taking on the 5 year total rebuilding task that CDD took on.

CDD has 2 of HIS recruiting classes on campus including some JUCO players that lost of schools went after so LOOK closely at our Sophs, Freshmen and JUCO players that CDD brought in and you'll see LOTS of kids that will be drafted into the NFL after they graduate and THAT is proof of positive progress.

Many are young and don't have real game experience and haven't learned the playbook yet but they are learning and we will start seeing more of our younger studs gewtting some game experience as the season moves along.

McNeil is just 1 example of a young freshman stud that will be making a big name for himself over the next year or 2 so watch this kid whenever he's on the field.

Brian Randolph is another and it's sad we lost him to a torn ACL because he's a Soph that made waves as a true freshman too.

So did A J Johnson and Maggitt, ect, ect.

THINK folks and remember that with just 2 or 3 plays going differently at UGA and we would have a big Win against the 5th ranked team in the country and nobody picked Tennessee to even compete well much less win that game.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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If anyone gets a chance i have some pretty good pics in the awesomeness album. It should put a smile on your face.:rock:
 
Dooley did come into the program at a bad time but there still is absolutely no reason to believe he can turn it around (see his coaching record) and so far he has not.
 
which coach inherited bigger problems?

fulmer
kiffin
dooley

Dooley#1- He inherited the mess from Fulmer and Kiffin which was a 2 year setback IMO

Kiffin#2- Inherited some talent but had no Oline (Fulmers legacy at one time) to work with and a QB that no one thought could hit the broad side of a barn.

Fulmer#3- Inherited a team loaded with talent, the SEC was weak except for Spurrier at Florida whom Phil only beat 3 times in 10 years. During those runs against Bama Phil lost 4 out of the 5 times Bama was ranked in the season. The SEC is a much tougher conference now than what it use to be.
 
Listening to the ESPN guys defending Romo's 5 picks makes me think of UT fans who support Dooley no matter what. Tonight Trent Dilfer made excuses for Romo in spite of his 5 picks. That reminds me of all the DD supporters who choose him over the University of Tennessee. Then they have the nerve to challenge realistic peoples fan hood.
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I'll take the opinion of a Superbowl winning qb over some dude in his moms basement. Nice thread.
 
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Finally someone with some patience.:eek:hmy:
Really good SEC teams have many guys drafted into the NFL every year.

Tennessee has had 3 or 4 drafted in the last 4 years and THAT is certainly NOT having a SEC type player roster so CDD was way behind when he got here and NOBODY else would even consider taking on the 5 year total rebuilding task that CDD took on.

CDD has 2 of HIS recruiting classes on campus including some JUCO players that lost of schools went after so LOOK closely at our Sophs, Freshmen and JUCO players that CDD brought in and you'll see LOTS of kids that will be drafted into the NFL after they graduate and THAT is proof of positive progress.

Many are young and don't have real game experience and haven't learned the playbook yet but they are learning and we will start seeing more of our younger studs gewtting some game experience as the season moves along.

McNeil is just 1 example of a young freshman stud that will be making a big name for himself over the next year or 2 so watch this kid whenever he's on the field.

Brian Randolph is another and it's sad we lost him to a torn ACL because he's a Soph that made waves as a true freshman too.

So did A J Johnson and Maggitt, ect, ect.

THINK folks and remember that with just 2 or 3 plays going differently at UGA and we would have a big Win against the 5th ranked team in the country and nobody picked Tennessee to even compete well much less win that game.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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Dooley#1- He inherited the mess from Fulmer and Kiffin which was a 2 year setback IMO

Kiffin#2- Inherited some talent but had no Oline (Fulmers legacy at one time) to work with and a QB that no one thought could hit the broad side of a barn.

Fulmer#3- Inherited a team loaded with talent, the SEC was weak except for Spurrier at Florida whom Phil only beat 3 times in 10 years. During those runs against Bama Phil lost 4 out of the 5 times Bama was ranked in the season. The SEC is a much tougher conference now than what it use to be.
Very true:good!:
 
But...But...But the almighty great Gruden was heaping high praises on Romo and saying he's 1 of the best QBs in the NFL before the game.

You mean the annointed great Gruden was wrong on his judgement of football talent???

We are talking about the same Gruden that was FIRED for totally FAILING as the Bucs head coach after he won for 1 year with the team Tony Dungy put together, right?

The same Gruden that all the idiot Grudenite people on here want as our next Tennessee coach, right???

LMAO at anyone wanting Gruden to come and ruin our Tennessee footVol program.

NOTE...VolBeef88 has NEVER been a Tennessee student or fan and most just IGNORE that UT hating idiot.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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Yet you fail to mention any other circumstances that led to that beyond his control.

A starting roster that was on par with the Vandy's and Kentucky's his first year.

A young, promising roster his second year that featured Bray and Hunter getting hurt. Lathers getting hurt. Janzen getting kicked off. In their place we start Simms/Worley, Zach Rogers, two freshman LBs, and a freshman safety.

Three senior classes that were left for him that have been awful beyond comprehension.

And 2-3 mid to late round NFL draft picks left to him.

Think that contributed at all?

Truth, it's tough for some people
 
Tool at best. I LOVE it. None of you undermining nega's can ever give a validated response....just more of that half arse stuff like you just did and then call "tool". Nice. You "wow" me. I'm swayed... I am giving my tickets away until Hart get's a clue(which clue was it again??.... the "He should just be better and we only win at Tn" clue or the "we should have hired another vanilla D coordinator" clue....or was it the "we are Tennessee and let's simply hire Gruden" clue?..FIRE DOOLEY.....f-ing BRILLIANT!!!!!! Shweew!! I feel smarter already! Come back when you can make a vlidated argument, TOOL!!


Easy there.

Just trying to make a point that Dooley knew the situation when he came here. It was a mess, a big mess with high expectations. High risk, high reward. The odds are stacked against anyone coming into that situation, but that doesn't lower expectations, at least for me. I think by this point we should be further along in the rebuilding process.

I think college football, especially in terms of recruiting(which plays a role in future success or failure), is becoming more and more, 'what have you done for me lately'. Is that unfair to any head coach trying to build a sustainable program? yes, but it is what it is. I think in this environment very capable coaches have been and will continue to be victims of this situation.

I just think Dooley has lost that opportunity. Can he get it back? Yes, and he can get it back quickly. A couple of key wins and the wind changes direction and everyone's talking about the turnaround. Do I think he will? unfortunately and I do mean unfortunately, no. If it is no, then whenever Hart has to make that decision it means starting over, and all that it brings with it.

I also believe that Dooley's entire career at UT would have been, and would continue to be very different had that LSU game ended the way it should have. Again, unfair yes. Sad reality yes.:peace2:
 
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Majors a NC winning coach went 21-23-1 his first 4 years
Dooley is currently 14-16 2.5 years into his third season

Both had their work cut out for them when they were hired. Majors had the advantage because the SEC was no where near as tough as it is today and recruiting was much easier (rules have changed and become tighter now than what they were in the late 70's early 80's)

Bama can rebuild quicker due to the in state talent it produces, same for GA, FL and LSU. Look how long it took HOF'er Spurrier to rebuild SCjr and we have fans whining because DD has not restored the Vols to glory in 2.5 years. When it comes to DD I am neutral but I have been around long enough to know that rebuilding our program does not happen overnight and there is no magic bullet name coach out there interested in coming here and even if there was, the next coach won't have near the road blocks that DD has faced in rebuilding this program.

2007 was a joke being in the SEC title game, we got hammered by our 2 biggest rivals that year, why some fans are delusional over that fact is beyond me. The talent with the exception of a few players during Phils final 4 years was horrid. In 2008 Phil had Josh McNeil (a true VFL) playing and the guy was crippled from knee injuries but it was all Fulmer had. It pisses me off to this day that Fulmer allowed this kid to play knowing he was hurting the guys chances of ever recovering and living a normal pain free life. I have to give Kiffin praise for seeing the dedication of McNeil but deciding the guys health is more important than having his experience on the field. For 2 years McNeil could not practice with the team during the week just so he could play for his beloved Vols.
 
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