Von Pearson WILL NOT be charged

#126
#126
ajvol01 said:
Incident didn't occur on campus.
Click to expand...

Didn't sound like it. So why would a University group be looking into it?

Why schools have their own psuedo-legal "sexual harassment" legal system is beyond me in the first place. But I digress ...
 
#129
#129
BearCat204 said:
Doesnt have to
Click to expand...

There is no evidence an incident happened, which is why he isn't being charged. How could the university say I'm going to believe this person over that one without evidence to back up the story? Von will be back as he should be since there was no evidence this incident actually happened.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#130
#130
livefaith said:
Didn't sound like it. So why would a University group be looking into it?

Why schools have their own psuedo-legal "sexual harassment" legal system is beyond me in the first place. But I digress ...
Click to expand...

use some common sense here.
 
#131
#131
chargervol said:
Sad part is, no one will know he's been cleared. You know, because you are always cluttering up the update thread, how would they possibly find out. :blink:
Click to expand...

200.gif
 
#132
#132
mountainair1 said:
There is no evidence an incident happened, which is why he isn't being charged. How could the university say I'm going to believe this person over that one without evidence to back up the story? Von will be back as he should be since there was no evidence this incident actually happened.
Click to expand...

Read the letter from the DA again.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#136
#136
mountainair1 said:
There is no evidence an incident happened, which is why he isn't being charged. How could the university say I'm going to believe this person over that one without evidence to back up the story? Von will be back as he should be since there was no evidence this incident actually happened.
Click to expand...

Insufficient evidence. Which is why I don't celebrate it. I would if I knew for sure he did nothing. I don't know either way. Glad that they aren't charging with no sufficient evidence, but would much prefer a "no evidence".
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#137
#137
mountainair1 said:
There is no evidence an incident happened, which is why he isn't being charged. How could the university say I'm going to believe this person over that one without evidence to back up the story? Von will be back as he should be since there was no evidence this incident actually happened.
Click to expand...

That's not what the notice from the DA means. It means that they didnt have sufficient evidence that a rape occurred. Doesnt mean the incident didnt happen at all. I'm not saying he is guilty of anything in the least, but you might want to pump your brakes a little by assuming that the University is just going to not even examine whether or not he violated anything in the code of conduct. JMO
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#138
#138
jakez4ut said:
bad news, it's already been opened. look , i'm just saying, lets at least allow for the possibility that in today's environment regarding violence against women, w/football players in particular, that it's at least remotely possible that UT, while also under investigation with 121 other schools for how sexual assaults are handled, might err on the side of caution and let Von go get his 2nd chance elsewhere.
Click to expand...

What are you thinking here Jake? There was no evidence to even bring charges against Von. If there was, we're talking about a completely different deal and there would be virtually no one on here (there's always one or two) would be supporting him.

Also, please keep in mind that there have been multiple high profile cases on other campuses where the strong accusations of rape vs young men have been totally fabricated and rushes to judgment all but ruined the lives of a lot of innocent young men....Duke Lacrosse, Univ of Virginia fraternity case where Rolling Stone perpetuated the lie and that wacko college chick at Columbia who dragged a stupid mattress around campus "in protest" after all evidence showed she completely made it all up.

And before somebody plays the tired "yeah but if it was your daughter" card....I have a daughter at UT...and I also have a son.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 9 people
#139
#139
livefaith said:
Didn't sound like it. So why would a University group be looking into it?

Why schools have their own psuedo-legal "sexual harassment" legal system is beyond me in the first place. But I digress ...
Click to expand...
am i reading this right?
mountainair1 said:
There is no evidence an incident happened, which is why he isn't being charged. How could the university say I'm going to believe this person over that one without evidence to back up the story? Von will be back as he should be since there was no evidence this incident actually happened.
Click to expand...
that's not what the DA said.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#140
#140
OrangeInKy said:
Insufficient evidence. Which is why I don't celebrate it. I would if I knew for sure he did nothing. I don't know either way. Glad that they aren't charging with no sufficient evidence, but would much prefer a "no evidence".
Click to expand...

My stance also.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#142
#142
Ericvol2096 said:
The word is that the coaches expect clearance Mon-Wed but the PR side wants to wait and release reinstatement late in the week.

He'll be back by first full pads practice so coaches are on board.

This is all assuming the DA takes the recent evidence the way everyone is expecting.
Click to expand...

See my post above from 8-2 in the VP thread, I still expect this timeline to take place.

Expect Von back by Friday practice, Saturday at the latest.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#144
#144
OrangeInKy said:
Insufficient evidence. Which is why I don't celebrate it. I would if I knew for sure he did nothing. I don't know either way. Glad that they aren't charging with no sufficient evidence, but would much prefer a "no evidence".
Click to expand...

Do they ever use the term "no evidence"? I think "insufficient" is as far as they go to saying "We got zilch". :wavey:
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#145
#145
jakez4ut said:
i don't have any issue with this, i know we're 'presumed innocent in the eyse of the law'.

maybe i'm just stuck on the verbiage used. "insufficient evidence" sounds a lot different than "cleared" or even "found no evidence to support pursing the case any further".

to me, it just sounds like code for "we know what happened, we just can't prove it".
Click to expand...

I get where you're coming from, but DAs always use legal verbiage when issuing formal statements. KPD couldn't establish probable cause to obtain a warrant, so the DA had no case. Nobody really "cleared" Von, because he was never arrested or charged with a crime-- not even a Class C Misdemeanor. The evidence simply wasn't there, and if KPD didn't have it, UTPD doesn't either. None of which means he'll be reinstated to the team.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#146
#146
KBVol said:
What are you thinking here Jake? There was no evidence to even bring charges against Von. If there was, we're talking about a completely different deal and there would be virtually no one on here (there's always one or two) would be supporting him.

Also, please keep in mind that there have been multiple high profile cases on other campuses where the strong accusations of rape vs young men have been totally fabricated and rushes to judgment all but ruined the lives of a lot of innocent young men....Duke Lacrosse, Univ of Virginia fraternity case where Rolling Stone perpetuated the lie and that wacko college chick at Columbia who dragged a stupid mattress around campus "in protest" after all evidence showed she completely made it all up.

And before somebody plays the tired "yeah but if it was your daughter" card....I have a daughter at UT...and I also have a son.
Click to expand...

One does not and should not have any bearing on the other. Insufficient evidence does not make everyone warm and fuzzy.
 
#148
#148
jakez4ut said:
bad news, it's already been opened. look , i'm just saying, lets at least allow for the possibility that in today's environment regarding violence against women, w/football players in particular, that it's at least remotely possible that UT, while also under investigation with 121 other schools for how sexual assaults are handled, might err on the side of caution and let Von go get his 2nd chance elsewhere.
Click to expand...

With a thought process like that, how are you allowed to be a moderator? Punish even though he is innocent?

I kid, but seriously though.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#149
#149
OrangeInKy said:
Insufficient evidence. Which is why I don't celebrate it. I would if I knew for sure he did nothing. I don't know either way. Glad that they aren't charging with no sufficient evidence, but would much prefer a "no evidence".
Click to expand...

Insufficient is about as far as they're ever gonna go. Pretty much means no evidence.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement





Back
Top