Von Pearson Update

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VFL-82-JP said:
We have utterly no idea what Butch knows about these cases. He certainly has far more access to information than any of us. He could fill buckets with the information he has that we don't, in each and every case.

You either trust the head coach of your program to do the right thing for the players and the program, or you don't. But either way, don't even begin to pretend to know enough to make the decisions yourself.
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I agree. As for my own comments on the matter, you'll note that I was careful to say Butch's "seemingly blanket policy." All the beat writers report that it is his policy to suspend, no questions asked, but I still allow for the possibility that he would exercise some discretion where appropriate. However, several players have been suspended, then cleared, then reinstated, and I have yet to be aware of a situation where Butch did not suspend because he believed his player's side of the story--so the evidence would certainly tend to suggest that he has a blanket policy.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
We have utterly no idea what Butch knows about these cases. He certainly has far more access to information than any of us. He could fill buckets with the information he has that we don't, in each and every case.

You either trust the head coach of your program to do the right thing for the players and the program, or you don't. But either way, don't even begin to pretend to know enough to make the decisions yourself.
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I agree. A coach makes a decision and if he is right, everyone applauds, so this only leaves the issue of being wrong at times. If he suspends and the player is cleared, the player returns and the only grumbles are from fans of the team.

If he doesn't suspend and the player turns out (or seriously appears) guilty, we look like Jimbo and FSU. That looks a lot less like a "family" atmosphere to most, including myself. So I can see why his decisions are harder than we may feel from the fan side of things.
 
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This happened to me two weeks ago.

My wife answered the phone early one morning and the call was for me. My wife took on the role as my gate keeper and told the person I wasn’t there and how could she help them. They told her this was a paternity issue and they needed to talk to me. While this was going on I watched her facial expression change as well as her attitude. She stuck the phone out to me and told me I had better take care of this. She then left to pick up her Mother and I took the phone.

After listening to how they are helping a young person finds their birth father and need a DNA test from me. I asked the name of the mother and the age of the child. I received answers to my questions and then responded in the following manner.

You have the wrong person. I never lived in the city in question. I did live in the area but not the city in question. I know for a fact there was a person with my first and last name in the city as we used to get calls for him from young ladies and I had looked it up in the phone book. There appears to be a problem with the race involved in this case. And last but not least I was sterilized well before this child was conceived. I told them I was willing to take the DNA test but it would be at their expense.

They agreed that they did have the wrong person and they ended the call.

When my wife returned she was still pi**ed off and wanted to know when she was going to meet my love child. I laughed and thanked her for the compliment and explained the call and then she calmed down. In fairness to my wife she knew the area code the call came from and I had lived in the area for a short period prior to meeting her.

The moral of the story is that when a third party uses words against another person it can shake the foundation of a 40 year marriage even when not true.

Is this not the same on this thread? Words from a third party against another person? From my recent experience I would suggest that until all facts are known it would be best not to pass judgment.
 
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Old Man Orange said:
This happened to me two weeks ago.

My wife answered the phone early one morning and the call was for me. My wife took on the role as my gate keeper and told the person I wasn’t there and how could she help them. They told her this was a paternity issue and they needed to talk to me. While this was going on I watched her facial expression change as well as her attitude. She stuck the phone out to me and told me I had better take care of this. She then left to pick up her Mother and I took the phone.

After listening to how they are helping a young person finds their birth father and need a DNA test from me. I asked the name of the mother and the age of the child. I received answers to my questions and then responded in the following manner.

You have the wrong person. I never lived in the city in question. I did live in the area but not the city in question. I know for a fact there was a person with my first and last name in the city as we used to get calls for him from young ladies and I had looked it up in the phone book. There appears to be a problem with the race involved in this case. And last but not least I was sterilized well before this child was conceived. I told them I was willing to take the DNA test but it would be at their expense.

They agreed that they did have the wrong person and they ended the call.

When my wife returned she was still pi**ed off and wanted to know when she was going to meet my love child. I laughed and thanked her for the compliment and explained the call and then she calmed down. In fairness to my wife she knew the area code the call came from and I had lived in the area for a short period prior to meeting her.

The moral of the story is that when a third party uses words against another person it can shake the foundation of a 40 year marriage even when not true.

Is this not the same on this thread? Words from a third party against another person? From my recent experience I would suggest that until all facts are known it would be best not to pass judgment.
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So I take it that your wife reads this forum, and you're using the post above to mislead your wife from learning more about your love child, just kidding:).
 
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Old Man Orange said:
This happened to me two weeks ago.

My wife answered the phone early one morning and the call was for me. My wife took on the role as my gate keeper and told the person I wasn’t there and how could she help them. They told her this was a paternity issue and they needed to talk to me. While this was going on I watched her facial expression change as well as her attitude. She stuck the phone out to me and told me I had better take care of this. She then left to pick up her Mother and I took the phone.

After listening to how they are helping a young person finds their birth father and need a DNA test from me. I asked the name of the mother and the age of the child. I received answers to my questions and then responded in the following manner.

You have the wrong person. I never lived in the city in question. I did live in the area but not the city in question. I know for a fact there was a person with my first and last name in the city as we used to get calls for him from young ladies and I had looked it up in the phone book. There appears to be a problem with the race involved in this case. And last but not least I was sterilized well before this child was conceived. I told them I was willing to take the DNA test but it would be at their expense.

They agreed that they did have the wrong person and they ended the call.

When my wife returned she was still pi**ed off and wanted to know when she was going to meet my love child. I laughed and thanked her for the compliment and explained the call and then she calmed down. In fairness to my wife she knew the area code the call came from and I had lived in the area for a short period prior to meeting her.

The moral of the story is that when a third party uses words against another person it can shake the foundation of a 40 year marriage even when not true.

Is this not the same on this thread? Words from a third party against another person? From my recent experience I would suggest that until all facts are known it would be best not to pass judgment.
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Dad!! Miss you... :)
 
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Butch used this same "blanket policy" with Marlin Lane and took flak because he didn't hold a press conference. We were told by our guys on the inside exactly what transpired in the Coleman Thomas case, but it had to play through. It's not always fair (I'm sure Butch agrees) but it's consistent and protects the program from the media vultures waiting to descend. Jimbo Fisher got a championship doing it differently. As he sits in his lonely accommodations facing the destruction of his marriage (not related) and his reputation, ever think he second guesses "trying to be fair"?
 
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Old Man Orange said:
This happened to me two weeks ago.

My wife answered the phone early one morning and the call was for me. My wife took on the role as my gate keeper and told the person I wasn’t there and how could she help them. They told her this was a paternity issue and they needed to talk to me. While this was going on I watched her facial expression change as well as her attitude. She stuck the phone out to me and told me I had better take care of this. She then left to pick up her Mother and I took the phone.

After listening to how they are helping a young person finds their birth father and need a DNA test from me. I asked the name of the mother and the age of the child. I received answers to my questions and then responded in the following manner.

You have the wrong person. I never lived in the city in question. I did live in the area but not the city in question. I know for a fact there was a person with my first and last name in the city as we used to get calls for him from young ladies and I had looked it up in the phone book. There appears to be a problem with the race involved in this case. And last but not least I was sterilized well before this child was conceived. I told them I was willing to take the DNA test but it would be at their expense.

They agreed that they did have the wrong person and they ended the call.

When my wife returned she was still pi**ed off and wanted to know when she was going to meet my love child. I laughed and thanked her for the compliment and explained the call and then she calmed down. In fairness to my wife she knew the area code the call came from and I had lived in the area for a short period prior to meeting her.

The moral of the story is that when a third party uses words against another person it can shake the foundation of a 40 year marriage even when not true.

Is this not the same on this thread? Words from a third party against another person? From my recent experience I would suggest that until all facts are known it would be best not to pass judgment.
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Who's the strange woman who answered the phone? Buy me a pony?
 
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Old Man Orange said:
This happened to me two weeks ago.

My wife answered the phone early one morning and the call was for me. My wife took on the role as my gate keeper and told the person I wasn’t there and how could she help them. They told her this was a paternity issue and they needed to talk to me. While this was going on I watched her facial expression change as well as her attitude. She stuck the phone out to me and told me I had better take care of this. She then left to pick up her Mother and I took the phone.

After listening to how they are helping a young person finds their birth father and need a DNA test from me. I asked the name of the mother and the age of the child. I received answers to my questions and then responded in the following manner.

You have the wrong person. I never lived in the city in question. I did live in the area but not the city in question. I know for a fact there was a person with my first and last name in the city as we used to get calls for him from young ladies and I had looked it up in the phone book. There appears to be a problem with the race involved in this case. And last but not least I was sterilized well before this child was conceived. I told them I was willing to take the DNA test but it would be at their expense.

They agreed that they did have the wrong person and they ended the call.

When my wife returned she was still pi**ed off and wanted to know when she was going to meet my love child. I laughed and thanked her for the compliment and explained the call and then she calmed down. In fairness to my wife she knew the area code the call came from and I had lived in the area for a short period prior to meeting her.

The moral of the story is that when a third party uses words against another person it can shake the foundation of a 40 year marriage even when not true.

Is this not the same on this thread? Words from a third party against another person? From my recent experience I would suggest that until all facts are known it would be best not to pass judgment.
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Your wife handled that whole situation in a very odd manner.
 
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I'll make his short and sweet:whistling:. Are we getting Pearson back or not?
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
Your wife handled that whole situation in a very odd manner.
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Yes, she did. In exactly the same way as my wife would've. It's called "women," an ancient and beloved--and yet entirely foreign--branch of the human species with whom we share space. We shall never understand them fully, and oughta just give up trying. :)
 
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Will Von be charged with the evidence they have? No.

Do they anticipate that incriminating evidence will be forthcoming? No.

Will KPD officially close the investigation before the start of fall camp? They're not compelled to do so.

Will Butch reinstate Von if the investigation remains ongoing after 90 days, but without the evidence to proceed? That is the real question.
 
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LA Vol said:
Will Von be charged with the evidence they have? We don't know, because we don't know what evidence exists.

Do they anticipate that incriminating evidence will be forthcoming? We don't know, because the KPD don't feel compelled to post updates on VN. How dare they?

Will KPD officially close the investigation before the start of fall camp? We have utterly no clue. We are totally in the dark.

Will Butch reinstate Von if the investigation remains ongoing after 90 days, but without the evidence to proceed? That is the real question. Turns out it's one of several.
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Bottom line: we're clueless. Just gotta trust the head coach, or not. I do.
 
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LA Vol said:
And posts like this are exactly why people with info don't bother to pass along what they know.
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Not sure why admitting we know nothing would cause people who do know something not to share.

No, people with inside info are not sharing here because:

1. Their job requires that they keep mum to the public; or
2. They know internet audiences are fickle, insatiable, and usually rude. Messengers get shot; golden geese get slaughtered; or
3. There is no upside, and plenty of downside, to letting it be known that you have insider access; or
4. All of the above.

Not because some of us admit we don't know much of anything about such sensitive matters.
 
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