VOLS QB problems

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Longtime Lurker ...first Time poster . Seen comments on the Vols ' bad QB production last season , but I am more optimistic . Remember when Ainge couldn't tie his shoes when he was our part time QB ...competing against Rick game after game ? Meachum was viewed as a career underachiever and the talking heads said that UT just didn't have any playmakers ? Enter Coach Cutts second tour ...Meachum is a first round draft pick and Ainge is a top 10 nationally ranked QB , that hapless O line gave up 5 sacks in a season . Then you bring in the Clawfence ...and presto chango ...everybody sucks again . I remember Crompton started two games for Ainge ( LSU and Da Hogs ) He was great given his inexperience . I think he and the other two can look good once again with some decent coaching and playcalling . All 3 QBs appear to have potential ... If Crompton can play in Cutts pro-style ...odds are he is going to do well in this offense rather than that mangled train wreck they were running last season .
 
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Welcome to the board! Good first post! I think you may be right!!!!! At least I hope you are! :)
 
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thanks for the Welcome ...have enjoyed following this board during recruiting ...lots of good news and info .
 
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Crompton does not need to be the starter, why invest the time in a kid who is a 5th yr senior makes no sense. Our staff need to work with Nick & BJ so we will have some sort of hope for 2010 instead of having a frosh trying to get ready.

Welcome to the board
 
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:hi: I've been hoping thats the case. I really believe it is. My only fear is that it's hard to get an athlete to get that doubt out of the back of his head once it's there.
 
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GmanTN said:
Crompton does not need to be the starter, why invest the time in a kid who is a 5th yr senior makes no sense. Our staff need to work with Nick & BJ so we will have some sort of hope for 2010 instead of having a frosh trying to get ready.

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I think you are right ...but on the flip side ...if Kiff can turn JC into an overnight sensation that would be a notch in the ol' belt when trying to recruit the next QB . ' Hey look ...we turned Project Hope into a Gunslinger ' . I am curious as to if Kiffin will have any interest in BJ . I can dig a scrambler , playmaker and liked in the Read Option ...but we know that guys like that may not fit the system . My money is on Nick ...but I think the gambler in Kiffin could get caught up in JC's physical attributes and want to show how QB friendly his sys and coaches are .
 
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jhen713 said:
:hi: I've been hoping thats the case. I really believe it is. My only fear is that it's hard to get an athlete to get that doubt out of the back of his head once it's there.
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Surely one of the three can do it!

Honestly Nick and BJ didn't have that bad of a season. BJ didn't look that good against Vandy, but he didn't get near enough opportunities to show himself, and Nick didn't do so bad, his attitude was what got him on the bench....I don't see the attitude being a problem this year. :)
 
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Goliver24 said:
Surely one of the three can do it!

Honestly Nick and BJ didn't have that bad of a season. BJ didn't look that good against Vandy, but he didn't get near enough opportunities to show himself, and Nick didn't do so bad, his attitude was what got him on the bench....I don't see the attitude being a problem this year. :)
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Attitude among these boys should be great ! The job is there for the takin' . I never did get that whole thing with Nick . The guy throws as INT and doesn't hustle on the return ....and he is flushed down the toilet from there ?? Maybe some extended running , sprints till upchuck ...but flushed ?? Makes me believe the rumors that Phil and Dave were having a QB disagreement amongst themselves . I hope Kiffin doesn't panic when he finds out they Leinart isn't on the team . Meaning ...I hjope he anticipates mistakes and protects the guys when needed and doesn't start the QB durby that has plagued Phil at times in his tenure
 
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Kiffin will take the best QB. I not worried about Compton being a senior because Kiffin is bringing in QB top guns next year. IMO it comes down to who learns his system and performs the best.
 
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majic73 said:
Attitude among these boys should be great ! The job is there for the takin' . I never did get that whole thing with Nick . The guy throws as INT and doesn't hustle on the return ....and he is flushed down the toilet from there ?? Maybe some extended running , sprints till upchuck ...but flushed ?? Makes me believe the rumors that Phil and Dave were having a QB disagreement amongst themselves . I hope Kiffin doesn't panic when he finds out they Leinart isn't on the team . Meaning ...I hjope he anticipates mistakes and protects the guys when needed and doesn't start the QB durby that has plagued Phil at times in his tenure
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I agree with the thing on Nick, and Kiffin knows what he was doing by not drafting a quarterback. If he was worried about a quarterback he could have stayed after Boyd and gotten him to come here and we would have gotten a quarterback, but obviously he saw something it at least one of the three that we have here now!

I'm excited to see which one gets the starting job and I hope that they do well this season!
 
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Remember also the whole team sucked. Its hard to be a good QB when your confused, your WR drop your passes or run the wrong routes, your RB drop the ball or go the wrong way, or the line couldnt block a team of little girls. The QB caught all the flack last year but the WHOLE offense stunk to high heaven. I would bet Kiffin has seen film on the QBs and already has a plan on correcting their mistakes.
 
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majic73 said:
I think you are right ...but on the flip side ...if Kiff can turn JC into an overnight sensation that would be a notch in the ol' belt when trying to recruit the next QB . ' Hey look ...we turned Project Hope into a Gunslinger ' . I am curious as to if Kiffin will have any interest in BJ . I can dig a scrambler , playmaker and liked in the Read Option ...but we know that guys like that may not fit the system . My money is on Nick ...but I think the gambler in Kiffin could get caught up in JC's physical attributes and want to show how QB friendly his sys and coaches are .
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Using that analogy would be disasterous, perhaps you are a friend of JC, but that would be a no win situation for us 2010 when the schedule will be much tougher.

With the 8 home games against the teams this season we need to utilize that in breaking in a competent QB that can give us hope for 2010.
 
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GmanTN said:
Crompton does not need to be the starter, why invest the time in a kid who is a 5th yr senior makes no sense. Our staff need to work with Nick & BJ so we will have some sort of hope for 2010 instead of having a frosh trying to get ready.

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is unquestionably better than the other two QBs--and I don't think he is--it would be stupid to play him. The staff needs to work mostly with the two other QBs who will be ///back next year and hence can be DEVELOPED over the next few months.// Why waste valuable time working with Crompton in the hope that the light will come on for him with four games to go in his senior season? That's foolish. I feel for the kid a bit because while he was lousy last year, it's pretty clear that the offense under Clawson was a complete cluster-f--k. If the younger guys give us close to what Crompton does, it would be wise to go with them--or one of them.
 
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majic73 said:
Longtime Lurker ...first Time poster . Seen comments on the Vols ' bad QB production last season , but I am more optimistic . Remember when Ainge couldn't tie his shoes when he was our part time QB ...competing against Rick game after game ? Meachum was viewed as a career underachiever and the talking heads said that UT just didn't have any playmakers ? Enter Coach Cutts second tour ...Meachum is a first round draft pick and Ainge is a top 10 nationally ranked QB , that hapless O line gave up 5 sacks in a season . Then you bring in the Clawfence ...and presto chango ...everybody sucks again . I remember Crompton started two games for Ainge ( LSU and Da Hogs ) He was great given his inexperience . I think he and the other two can look good once again with some decent coaching and playcalling . All 3 QBs appear to have potential ... If Crompton can play in Cutts pro-style ...odds are he is going to do well in this offense rather than that mangled train wreck they were running last season .
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Kiffin just might be the type of coach that Crompton needs to feel relaxed and keep his head on the field. Kiffin has already taken a lot of pressure off the team and put it on himself. I'm confident that he will find ways to utilize the strengths that we do have to take pressure of whoever is playing QB.

I'm betting that BJ Coleman ends up getting the job though.
 
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majic73 said:
I think you are right ...but on the flip side ...if Kiff can turn JC into an overnight sensation that would be a notch in the ol' belt when trying to recruit the next QB . ' Hey look ...we turned Project Hope into a Gunslinger ' . I am curious as to if Kiffin will have any interest in BJ . I can dig a scrambler , playmaker and liked in the Read Option ...but we know that guys like that may not fit the system . My money is on Nick ...but I think the gambler in Kiffin could get caught up in JC's physical attributes and want to show how QB friendly his sys and coaches are .
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Coleman is a pro-style QB who has some athleticism. He is not a dual-threat QB. He fits Kiffin's system but has a weaker arm than Kiffin likes.
 
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CLK will make the right choice. I dont think that starting JC is a waste of time if we the team is playing well. Heck we may start a freshman next year who is more skillled than what we have now. Im not readt to look that far into the future.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
Coleman is a pro-style QB who has some athleticism. He is not a dual-threat QB. He fits Kiffin's system but has a weaker arm than Kiffin likes.
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Ive thrown with all three of them, BJ's arm is more than strong enough to play in this conference and for CLK.
 
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Kiffin should have learned from Miles. Play the freshman its going to hurt watching that this year but next year will be better.
 
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BeenThere09 said:
Ive thrown with all three of them, BJ's arm is more than strong enough to play in this conference and for CLK.
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I hope Kiffin feels the same way because BJ is my favorite. I think he has all the intangibles necessary to lead and he seems bright enough to break down a defense. I've heard people criticize his footwork but I also remember Peyton being criticized for happy feet. Not too many people criticizing his footwork now.
 
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Whoever it is better earn the respect and confidence of the team. That was obviously missing last year.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
I hope Kiffin feels the same way because BJ is my favorite. I think he has all the intangibles necessary to lead and he seems bright enough to break down a defense. I've heard people criticize his footwork but I also remember Peyton being criticized for happy feet. Not too many people criticizing his footwork now.
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He can be a little antzy at times. I think however, last year he had trouble with depth on his drop. He was taking three step drops on five step packages and vice versa. All three, with good coaching can be very good.
 
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If Ainge hadn't have gotten hurt then Rick wouldn't have stepped in and did such a great job, therefore Ainge would probably have been a lot better that year. Also we don't have Coach Cut anymore and Crompton is the worst QB I've ever seen and he doesn't deserve to be on the field.
 
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