Vol uniform/helmet design discussion (merged)

[VolsByNature]

I like 'em. I really like the black/black socks n shoes. 10x better than the white socks

 

[T-TownVol]

I love how this guy looked at the original uniform thread, started a brand new one anyway because his mockups are SO IMPORTANT AND NEW, saw that one get merged....and then started YET ANOTHER new thread about it the very next way.

Of course yesterday, this guy seemed to believe that posting his photoshop jobs up on an internet message board had them already halfway into production, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised:



So how far up Mike Hamilton's list of priorities do you think "review proposed uniform changes from internet message board posters" is?

BUT BUT.....his designs are SPECIAL!!!!

 

[T-TownVol]

I like 'em. I really like the black/black socks n shoes. 10x better than the white socks

I agree, the patent leather cleats make the uni.

 

[TENNaciousUTfan]

I like 'em. I really like the black/black socks n shoes. 10x better than the white socks

Thanks. The reason black socks & shoes look better is because they don't "compete" (which bright colors spread everywhere tend to do) with the uniform.

Just like camera angles in movies and photo's often use certain techniques to focus the viewer's eye toward the key element in the shot...the black socks & shoes are muted compared to the bright colors of the uniform. Thus the eyes focus solely on the uniform. There's a reason to the rhyme, here.

As long as the black doesn't clash with the other colors, it can be a very helpful aide, as the black trim (currently on the Basketball Uni's, too) provides a very subtle means of contrast between the two bright colors (Orange & White). For example, in magazines, TV ad's, Graphics on Newscasts, etc.. you often see black or dark colors employed in a similar manner, as a Stroke or Drop Shadow...just to provide necessary contrast. You try to do it as subtle as possible, so that it's visible only to the point that it does that job, and no further...unless it's a prominent color in the overall scheme. THAT is why I agree that black should not be included as a prominent color, along with the orange & white. At most, it should only be used modestly as a contrasting aide...nothing more.

The lady Vols have powder blue as a SECONDARY element as well. Bruce Pearly uses Black as such...so all these haters are throwing a tantrum over applying the same scheme in Football, is utterly ridiculous.
Bruce didn't ask their permission, and I doubt CLK will either. That's not to say folks can't have an opinion, but taking it to the extreme (spitefully harassing anyone with a different opinion)...as the Sphincter Bros. are, is indeed ridiculous. You don't hear them b!tch about the B-Ball uniforms, or call for Pearl's resignation over it.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Thanks. The reason black socks & shoes look better is because they don't "compete" (which bright colors spread everywhere tend to do) with the uniform.

Just like camera angles in movies and photo's often try to focus the viewer's eye toward the key element in the shot.

As long as the black doesn't clash with the other colors, it can be a very helpful aide, as the black trim (currently on the Basketball Uni's, too) provides a very subtle means of contrast between the two bright colors (Orange & White). For example, in magazines, TV ad's, Graphics on Newscasts, etc.. you often see black or dark colors employed in a similar manner, as a Stroke or Drop Shadow...just to provide necessary contrast. You try to do it as subtle as possible, so that it's visible only to the point that it does that job, and no further...unless it's a prominent color in the overall scheme. THAT is why I agree that black should not be included as a prominent color, along with the orange & white. At most, it should only be used modestly as a contrasting aide...nothing more.

The lady Vols have powder blue as a SECONDARY element as well. Bruce Pearly uses Black as such...so why all these haters are throwing a tantrum over applying the same scheme in Football, is just ridiculous.
Bruce didn't ask their permission, and I doubt CLK will either. That's not to say folks can't have an opinion, but taking it to the extreme (spitefully harassing anyone with a different opinion)...as the Sphincter Bros. are, is indeed ridiculous. You don't hear them b!tch about the B-Ball uniforms, or call for Pearl's resignation over it.

Pull your pants up and be a man. Nobody's harassing you for your "different opinion"; they're ridiculing you for your self-importance. You thought you were too good for the main fashion design thread, so you started another one, and then once that got merged, you started another yet another one again. Can you not take a hint? Your feces doesn't smell any better than anybody else's.

 

[crusse10]

Honestly, this will never go. We will never have uniforms that look like this.
I'm not trying to burn you or your designs, I'm not trying to take a side at all, I'm simply sayin' that it won't happen. It's time to give it a rest. We will not, in the near future, make any move toward incorporating anything different to our uniform, save outlines or piping. That's it. Our jerseys will remain basically the same for many, many years.

 

[TENNaciousUTfan]

Honestly, this will never go. We will never have uniforms that look like this.
I'm not trying to burn you or your designs, I'm not trying to take a side at all, I'm simply sayin' that it won't happen. It's time to give it a rest. We will not, in the near future, make any move toward incorporating anything different to our uniform, save outlines or piping. That's it. Our jerseys will remain basically the same for many, many years.

Probably true...under CPF. But this IS an new staff, new era. USC saw some minor uniform changes or enhancements while Kiffin was there. Not saying he was behind it. But we'll see.
The more these haters show their a$$es, the more determined I am to see their wishes go up in smoke.

 

[ERICtheBERRY]

I really like the unis... but this really does need to be MERGED.

I'm not trying to be mean, because they are very good, but just because YOU made them doesn't mean that they need a whole new thread to contain their awesomeness.

 

[TENNaciousUTfan]

I really like the unis... but this really does need to be MERGED.

I'm not trying to be mean, because they are very good, but just because YOU made them doesn't mean that they need a whole new thread to contain their awesomeness.

The reason I disagree with that and asked the moderator not to merge it, is that the other threads purpose was to make mention of Black Jersey's sighted at some store. And it became a heated debate about "black out's" or not. I explained previously why I agree to the extent that Black shouldn't be considered a primary color. Nevertheless, it CAN work as an aid (via trim, that provides a modest amount of contrast between the two bright colors). A very good example is our basketball uni's.

This thread is about my specifically asking other fans for a thumbs up or thumbs down regarding specific designs, as I am seriously considering the idea of showing them to the staff and/or the Athletic Dept.
I'm a Graphic Designer and 3D artist by trade, and instead of "hoping" that some changes are made in the future, I thought I might be able to assist in that effort, to some degree perhaps.
That's a completely different purpose than the other thread...and instead of merely giving a yeah or nay, some folks have taken it upon themselves to spitefully try and wreck this thread. Is it jealousy? Is it just their bunghole nature coming through? Probably both, IMHO.

They already sacked one thread. And they are doing their level best to try and sack this one.
It's just 110% spite...nothing else.

 

[ERICtheBERRY]

The reason I disagree with that and asked the moderator not to merge it, is that the other threads purpose was to make mention of Black Jersey's sighted at some store. And it became a heated debate about black out's or not.
This thread is about my specifically asking other fans for a thumbs up or thumbs down regarding the designs I am seriously considering the idea of showing them to the staff and/or the Athletic Dept.
I'm a Graphic Designer and 3D artist by trade, and instead of "hoping" that some changes are made in the future, I thought I might be able to assist in that effort, to some degree perhaps.
That's a completely different purpose than the other thread...and instead of merely giving a yeah or nay, some folks have taken it upon themselves to spitefully try and wreck this thread. Is it jealousy? Is it just their bunghole nature coming through? Probably both, IMHO.

Well in my case it certainly is a thumbs up on the jerseys. I did read the thread and some specific people did turn into c** guzzling dumpster sl**s..

Anyway, keep up the good work, but it might not be a bad idea to work on the designs on different photos to get a better sense of the look from different angles.

 

[TENNaciousUTfan]

Well in my case it certainly is a thumbs up on the jerseys. I did read the thread and some specific people did turn into c** guzzling dumpster sl**s..

Anyway, keep up the good work, but it might not be a bad idea to work on the designs on different photos to get a better sense of the look from different angles.

Thanks...I thought about that. I may take the time to model a 3D UT football player (can animate it and create some media content, possibly), and apply the variations during the texturing process.
Might be a good inroads to working with Adidas on this, on a contractor basis...I don't know

 

[pierat]

Question: Is there any restrictions or rules teams must follow for Away games concerning the uniforms/designs besides the wearing of white jerseries. How much color is allowed, I remember the ugly away jerseries that had orange across the shoulder pad area.

 

[TENNaciousUTfan]

Question: Is there any restrictions or rules teams must follow for Away games concerning the uniforms/designs besides the wearing of white jerseries. How much color is allowed, I remember the ugly away jerseries that had orange across the shoulder pad area.

Not sure about the percentage, but those were throwback jersey's I thought

 

[volfan2024]

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. The only problem I would have is if you own Hope-Photo , then you are promoting your business free of charge.

 

[TENNaciousUTfan]

Just dont do all orange for the love of god!!!!!! We all know what happens when we do that !

I think you'll like this "All Orange" version, though.

 

[TENNaciousUTfan]

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. The only problem I would have is if you own Hope-Photo , then you are promoting your business free of charge.

No, I don't, and I know where to buy the photo (to cover my backside) if there were to be any commercial transactions involved at some point.

 

[crusse10]

But this won't happen. This is too drastic. What you're saying is similar to the thinking that when JoePa leaves Penn State, they will update their unis.
No. It won't happen. They will say thank you for your time, and move along. They won't want this, because it's too drastic. Especially with the full white (or orange) stripe. It just isn't going to work. It won't look like a T. It will look like wide, full length solid color stripes, and that isn't UT. Lane Kiffin's job is to win, not change uniforms. The decision to "update" would come from above, not from Kiffin. And Hamilton won't be changing the overall design.

 

[TENNaciousUTfan]

But this won't happen. This is too drastic. What you're saying is similar to the thinking that when JoePa leaves Penn State, they will update their unis.
No. It won't happen. They will say thank you for your time, and move along. They won't want this, because it's too drastic. Especially with the full white (or orange) stripe. It just isn't going to work. It won't look like a T. It will look like wide, full length solid color stripes, and that isn't UT. Lane Kiffin's job is to win, not change uniforms. The decision to "update" would come from above, not from Kiffin. And Hamilton won't be changing the overall design.

Majors changed the stripe on the helmet, and Fulmer made a few minor changes here and there...it was the coaches decision. Again, other major programs have added subtle changes...USC and Oklahoma being 2 of them...not to mention Miami. I respect your opinion, but you speak in strict, dogmatic terms.."They will...." Are you "They?" Are you on the staff or in the AD?
Again, we'll see.

 

[crusse10]

Majors changed the stripe on the helmet, and Fulmer made a few minor changes here and there...it was the coaches decision. Again, other major programs have added subtle changes...USC and Oklahoma being 2 of them...not to mention Miami. It's fine to have your opinion, but you speak in dogmatic terms.."They will...." Are you "They?" Are you on the staff or in the AD?
Again, we'll see.

This is the difference. I don't conisder this "subtle". This is drastic, and it won't happen. If you want to get to this type of design, step 1 would be convincing them to add a stripe to the shirt. Let that stir for a little, then that gets added. After that, then suggesting the whole "T" thing may start to fly. But it won't happen from what we have now, to that. It would have to slowly change from one to the other. What Tennessee fans are used to seeing is what we have now. A change like what you're proposing is in no way "subtle."

 

[T-TownVol]

Majors changed the stripe on the helmet, and Fulmer made a few minor changes here and there...it was the coaches decision. Again, other major programs have added subtle changes...USC and Oklahoma being 2 of them...not to mention Miami. I respect your opinion, but you speak in strict, dogmatic terms.."They will...." Are you "They?" Are you on the staff or in the AD?
Again, we'll see.

you are delusional

 

[crusse10]

Let's allow this thread to die, and you tell us how it goes when you get an answer from the Athletic Department. There's no more discussion that needs to be had for this.

 

[Daddy Gee]

I've got a few new plays that I've drawn up for Kiffin... anybody got an e-mail address?

 

[T-TownVol]

I've got a few new plays that I've drawn up for Kiffin... anybody got an e-mail address?

Well, that definately DESERVES it's own thread!
UNMERGE!

 

[K Zed]

So...Who wants black today?

lulz

Go Clinton Dragons!

 

[joeydupree]

I vote for unmerginalization on the New Plays...