VERY well coached game

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gandycv said:
Watched some of the Bama Arky game. Don't think this is our year. Our DBs will get burned like the Razorbacks did and bama stuffed their running game. bama is to big and fast and to deep. Just what I observed
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I watched the first half. If Arkansas could have moved the ball they could have won. Their defense played pretty good in the first half. I was shocked that they held Alabama to 3 points in the first half, being that Alabama has the best OC in college football and that their offense is loaded with stars. With our week off, I don't believe Alabama will blow us out.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I agree for the most part, and am very thankful for the win (especially for the players), but I would still question a couple of critical calls...

  1. Every TN fan, every GA fan, every GA coach, and apparently every GA player knew that Dobbs was going to hand the ball off to Hurd when it was first and goal from the one. We should absolutely have had Dobbs under center at that point and just let him sneak it 3 times if necessary. It is one of the most difficult plays for the defense to stop. Why we chose to hand the ball off 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage is a mystery to me. If they haven't been practicing short yardage situations with Dobbs under center then I think it's time they start.
  2. On the 4th and inches play at the end of the game I would have absolutely gone for it, though I also understand the rationale to punt. However, imo given what we have seen from our defense in earlier games in trying to close out a win (and being unsuccessful), I think it was time to put the game in the hands of the offense... and quite honestly I think the percentages would play out more in our favor. We gain 6 inches the game is over. If not, GA still has to go 50+ yards to win the game.

    During the offensive series in trying to get GA to jump, as the play clock was winding down, I would have also had practiced a play to have our center either give a slight "head bob" or slightly move the ball on a hard count by Dobbs. It was apparent that GA was not going to jump, so this might have been enough to entice them. Best case they jump, the refs don't notice the slight movement, and the ball game is over. Worst case is that if the Refs call us for a penalty it only backs us up meaningless yards relative to punting.
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I disagree about going for it on 4th and 1. They could have scored had we not made it. I don't believe any coach would have gone for it. I can't imagine giving them the ball at mid field.
 
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My only gripe was letting them off the half yard line at the end and giving them a shot at tying the game with a realistic throw to the end zone.

Jancek has GOT to start getting after teams more with the games on the line. Playing soft and rushing 3-4 has gotten then into trouble repeatedly now.
 
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armchair said:
Well, give the coaches and players credit for a much improved passing game, which went from being crap to our strength in this game. Great comeback.

My negative? I've said it: Butch has a knack for making weak, dumb decisions with the game on the line. Punting the ball, and thinking that our defense would hold georgia, was stupid. We didn't hold them, and we wouldn't have held them: we got lucky on the punt and the fact that georgia had used 1 or 2 timeouts already. Another 10 or 15 seconds and they would have been in the end zone. When you are one play away from winning, you have to take it and make it. We narrowly avoided yet another choke.

Ok, now i'll drink a beer.
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And if he goes for it on 4th down and they don't make it, Georgia has a short field and a LOT MORE time to tie it AND you're not on here talking about what a boneheaded move that was? :)

FTR...I was also screaming go for it...I work with computers for a living.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
My only gripe was letting them off the half yard line at the end and giving them a shot at tying the game with a realistic throw to the end zone.

Jancek has GOT to start getting after teams more with the games on the line. Playing soft and rushing 3-4 has gotten then into trouble repeatedly now.
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We got ZERO pressure with five for an entire season. Why would you sacrifice the pass coverage? Oh yeah.... Again, it works in Madden.
 
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QuickSmurf said:
I watched the first half. If Arkansas could have moved the ball they could have won. Their defense played pretty good in the first half. I was shocked that they held Alabama to 3 points in the first half, being that Alabama has the best OC in college football and that their offense is loaded with stars. With our week off, I don't believe Alabama will blow us out.
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As soon as I started watching bama's speed receiver burned em for a long td pass. Our dbs need to be really coached or it will be a long day
 
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Guys, if you are looking for a game with no "specific" mistakes then you'll never see one. But most of the mistakes this time were "execution". There were some play calls here or there... but for the most part Jones and staff stayed more aggressive in their approach to the game.

Some of that was obviously because they were playing from behind. But my HOPE... SINCERE, JONES' JOB PRESERVING HOPE... is that as he self scouts the first 6 games he'll recognize what so many outside the meeting rooms have. That he needs to stay aggressive even with a lead at this level of competition. He doesn't have to go stupid. He doesn't have to throw caution to the wind. He just needs to keep the opponent off balance and unable to load up against certain plays or know that some plays won't be called.
 
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I, like a lot of people, had wondered why we hadn't thrown over the middle more. Then Dobbs hits Jennings in the hands on a slant for what looks like a first down and just as I'm thinking see we told you it would work the ball bounces off Jennings hands his face mask and the Georgia LB makes an amazing INT! I'm thinking well here we go back into a shell but no they kept going there! Wolf made some great catches. Just wish he had held on to the TD! Great throw by Dobbs! That's the kind of play that must be made to win in the SEC. Fortunately Georgia gave us one back. :)
 
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UTRavens said:
No doubt, that was a terrible decision to punt and it almost cost us even with the punt having the best possible result. But the positives from our coaching in the first 58 minutes outweigh the negatives from the final two.
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I might go for it, but the smart play is to punt. Driving 50 isnt hard in a minute and a half. Driving 100 is a real challenge.
 
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holdemvol said:
You serious? We won the game and produced over 500 yards of offense.

so yes your hypothetical strategy is not only questionable, but borderline idiodic. As for the previous losses yes I would have done things differently, but what's done is done. Anyway, keep us updated on your coaching career.
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What seems to be lost to you is that we produced over 500 yards of offense and STILL could have lost that game. We ran around 90 plays...we opened up and threw the ball downfield when we were DOWN 21 POINTS and had nothing to lose.....We went for it on 4th downs for the same reasons...and STILL managed to shrivel up and go conservative enough to almost lose the game.

The PLAIN HARD facts coming from the UGA game is that our current HUNH approach will NEVER win us the SEC championship--it BARELY beat a very average UGA team when everything went right except the Hurd fumble on the 2 yd line.

IF you have been watching ANY SEC football you realize that NONE of the teams using this offensive approach are having any real sustained success--except aTm. And they have yet to play LSU and Bama....

The SAME coaching detriments that have cost us 3 games we should have won this year were still EVIDENT in the UGA game.

As far as my reasoning being idiotic...Look, francis--we are 3-3 instead of realistically being 6-0, or at the very least 5-1. And you're saying my strategy is borderline???????

And, for the record, I still say that our chances for winning were better to go for it on that last 4th down. Did you not forget that UGA marched the ball 72 yards down the field from their own 1/2 yard line and had a chance at the end to tie the game?

Our DEFENSE hasn't stopped ANYONE in the 4th QTR! Our BEST odds were to get the first down and run out the clock--we got LUCKY...

Jones and Co. still made the wrong decision--but this time got a lucky bounce on a punt. :salute:
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I might go for it, but the smart play is to punt. Driving 50 isnt hard in a minute and a half. Driving 100 is a real challenge.
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yes--and how many times over the years have we watched other teams do it to us in Neyland....and don't forget--UGA still drove 72 yards from their own 1/2 yd line and had two opportunities to throw it into our end zone to tie the game.

IF UGA would have started from their own 20 yd line--they would have tied the game because we don't have ONE DB who knows how to make a play.

Knowing our Defense, and knowing that we've LOST 3 games when our Defense gave up game winning or game tying drives--we should have gone for it on 4th and 1/2 yard. :salute:
 
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