UTC's David Blackburn says no official contact with UT on job

[Behr]

Wait for it....

 

[jos3ywales]

this is the only quote I'm aware of that Davenport has made and it was in a release by UC, Maybe I missed something but not aware of any other statements she has made

I’m so very grateful for the privilege of serving as the University of Cincinnati’s interim president and provost. I have grown to love this institution, this city, and the many colleagues and friends I have come to know,” said Davenport. “Because of my experience here, I have the opportunity of a lifetime to serve as the next chancellor of the University of Tennessee's flagship campus. I am inspired by their confidence in my abilities to help them reach their goal of becoming a top-tier public research university. I also look forward to the chance to be closer to family.”

I have looked and looked for the Article I seen last week and now it is no where to be found. Maybe it was one of the bogus artlicles and has since been taken down. When I seen it I was quite surprised I figured someone from here had seen it. I could very well be wrong but I did read it. What it said was anyone that was involved in the title 9 and was at UT in that ERA including when Coach Fulmer was the Coach at UT until to Date she would not want them involved in the UTAD in any way shape or form, then it said which would include David Blackburn being hired as UTAD. I in no way claim to know all that goes on I was just hoping someone else had seen it and could explain to me if it was true or not.

 

[landscapingvol]

The AD has been run by the three stooges for decades. UT has consistently went on the cheap with its coaches going back to Johnny Majors. Fulmer was an unknown quantity for the most part, as was Kiffin, and Dooley. Jones had experience but at lesser levels so why any of this is surprising is beyond me and that is with several different AD's and Administrators. The head booster owns the Browns. All this speculation of "UT is going to hire this high priced coordinator or that high priced head coach" goes against all known facts and evidence of UT's past. The powers that be aren't going to magically open up the checkbook simply because David Blackburn is an alum of UT.

 

[landscapingvol]

UT isn't even the top 5 in the SEC in total coaching assistants salaries as of 2016

 

[volfan102455]

The AD has been run by the three stooges for decades. UT has consistently went on the cheap with its coaches going back to Johnny Majors. Fulmer was an unknown quantity for the most part, as was Kiffin, and Dooley. Jones had experience but at lesser levels so why any of this is surprising is beyond me and that is with several different AD's and Administrators. The head booster owns the Browns. All this speculation of "UT is going to hire this high priced coordinator or that high priced head coach" goes against all known facts and evidence of UT's past. The powers that be aren't going to magically open up the checkbook simply because David Blackburn is an alum of UT.

Throwing negativity back to the Nega Vols - I see.

Don't you know you are dashing their hopes and dreams right before the holidays? But this is true!

 

[jos3ywales]

Bama got tired of Losing, Boosters opened the check books went and got the best coach they could that they thought would give them the best chance to be the best and win a NC, and they did. Mich. did the same with JH. Ohio did with UM. Until Tennessee does the same and decides they want to WIN and win big, and the Boosters and school do the same Tennessee will never be back on top. JMO.

 

[aRmo]

Bama got tired of Losing, Boosters opened the check books went and got the best coach they could that they thought would give them the best chance to be the best and win a NC, and they did. Mich. did the same with JH. Ohio did with UM. Until Tennessee does the same and decides they want to WIN and win big, and the Boosters and school do the same Tennessee will never be back on top. JMO.

Who would you hire. Ill wait....

 

[jakez4ut]

Who would you hire. Ill wait....

i dont think you could come up with a list at the moment. i know i don't. i don't think there's anyone right now that i just "have to have".

but that doesn't mean that person isn't out there, or won't be in the near future.

 

[DeerPark12]

The AD has been run by the three stooges for decades. UT has consistently went on the cheap with its coaches going back to Johnny Majors. Fulmer was an unknown quantity for the most part, as was Kiffin, and Dooley. Jones had experience but at lesser levels so why any of this is surprising is beyond me and that is with several different AD's and Administrators. The head booster owns the Browns. All this speculation of "UT is going to hire this high priced coordinator or that high priced head coach" goes against all known facts and evidence of UT's past. The powers that be aren't going to magically open up the checkbook simply because David Blackburn is an alum of UT.

Yeah, this is pretty all wrong, but thanks for playing.

UT shelled out big money to bring Majors back home from Pittsburgh. He had just won a National Championship when he returned, that was not a hire made on the cheap. Now, Majors was ALWAYS chirping about his contract, thinking he should be the highest-paid coach in the country. Many times, UT obliged him and gave him a raise.

Fulmer was the hottest assistant in the country and had offers in hand from two SEC schools to become their head coach when the move was made on Majors. Chavis was consistently one of the highest-paid defensive coordinators in the country his last 10 years here.

Kiffin had been the head coach of a little-known team called the Oakland Raiders. But, sure, hiring an NFL coach that had been fired by an insane elderly man was doing it on the cheap. I'll give you Dooley, that was a debacle.

The "head booster" doesn't own the Browns. The son of one of UT's biggest boosters owns the Browns, but it's "Big Jim" Haslam that is our benefactor, not his son Jimmy. Jim is far from the only booster whose wallet speaks at UT.

Hiring an expensive coordinator goes against "all known facts and evidence?"How quickly you forget just last January when UT made Bob Shoop the 8th-highest paid assistant coach in the country.

But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rant?

 

[mtnmanvol39]

Complacency can be a very bad thing. After the '97-98 season, I think UT grew complacent. We can point fingers at this AD or that Head Coach, but at the end of the day the program overall failed to keep up with Bamas and Ohio States of the College Football world and here is where we are at. I don't profess to have the answers but I know that winning cures a heck of a lot! Coach Jones will hopefully go back to the drawing board and try to fix his issues. Whoever the AD will be, I hope they don't allow us to go backwards as a program. Even if it's Blackburn, he won't be able to fix things overnight. But I hope he doesn't follow Hamilton's example. Don't get complacent and keep up with the Big Boys if you want Big Boy results. GO VOLS!!

 

[landscapingvol]

Who would you hire. Ill wait....

That's the issue, there are only a handful of coaches who have achieved sustained success at multiple programs. They are Saban, Meyer, and Harbaugh. After that you have a bunch of coaches who have achieved success at times but not consistently like Sumlin, Malzahn, Kelly, Dabo, Freeze, and several others. Could UT be better off under one of them? Maybe, but it would cost a heck of a lot of money to possibly get either of them and you may not see any real improvement. Unfortunately, that is nature of college football at the moment with a handful of teams and coaches dominating the game. Even if UT had the same amount of big money donors as Alabama, which they don't, Saban wouldn't leave Alabama for UT neither would Meyer or Harbaugh so at this point we have to hope that Jones can build a winning program here. Maybe a Chip Kelly wants to get back into college in a year or two or Gruden? Otherwise, UT like 99% of the other programs in college football will take a risk with an up and coming coach.

 

[jakez4ut]

That's the issue, there are only a handful of coaches who have achieved sustained success at multiple programs. They are Saban, Meyer, and Harbaugh. After that you have a bunch of coaches who have achieved success at times but not consistently like Sumlin, Malzahn, Kelly, Dabo, Freeze, and several others. Could UT be better off under one of them? Maybe, but it would cost a heck of a lot of money to possibly get either of them and you may not see any real improvement. Unfortunately, that is nature of college football at the moment with a handful of teams and coaches dominating the game. Even if UT had the same amount of big money donors as Alabama, which they don't, Saban wouldn't leave Alabama for UT neither would Meyer or Harbaugh so at this point we have to hope that Jones can build a winning program here. Maybe a Chip Kelly wants to get back into college in a year or two or Gruden? Otherwise, UT like 99% of the other programs in college football will take a risk with an up and coming coach.

i think the bigger question is where were those guys before they got where they are now?


point being, there are quality head coaches out there, and it's not likely we're going to poach any of those guys, or any of those big 3 that have been mentioned.

there's no guarantees. you don't know that Nick Saban is going to turn out to be "Nick Saban".

if they did, then why waste time with all the guys that came before he, or Meyer or Harbaugh?

you think if Clemson knew at the time Dabo would turn out like he has, they'd of wasted time with Tommy?

anyway.....this notion that we can't do better, or we should be scared of trying doesn't hold water.

that said, i also don't think we should do anything right now, given all the circumstances. but if this program decides it wants to be an elite program again, then at some point they're going to have to ask the question seriously...is butch jones going to be the guy to do that?

until then...it's just fodder for all of us.

 

[05_never_again]

The AD has been run by the three stooges for decades. UT has consistently went on the cheap with its coaches going back to Johnny Majors. Fulmer was an unknown quantity for the most part, as was Kiffin, and Dooley. Jones had experience but at lesser levels so why any of this is surprising is beyond me and that is with several different AD's and Administrators. The head booster owns the Browns. All this speculation of "UT is going to hire this high priced coordinator or that high priced head coach" goes against all known facts and evidence of UT's past. The powers that be aren't going to magically open up the checkbook simply because David Blackburn is an alum of UT.

Almost everything that you say here is either untrue or misleading. DeerPark thoroughly debunked it.

Fulmer was a hot commodity which had a lot to do with Majors being forced out to begin with (they were afraid he would bolt if they didn't make him HC). While he was the head coach, he was consistently among the highest-paid coaches in the country and got a raise/extension a year before he was fired.

Kiffin was the Tom Herman of 2008. Was probably the hottest prospective coaching name during that year's coaching carousel. Tennessee fans are loathe to admit it now but the fanbase was fired up about him. He had won championships as an assistant at USC, was coming from the NFL, and was bringing his Super Bowl-winning dad along. There wasn't anything conservative or penny-pinching about that hire.

You have to throw out the Dooley hire as an example because he was the only man that would take the job. Kiffin put Tennessee in an extremely compromised position and we couldn't even do a normal coaching search because of the timing. We hired Dooley out of necessity, not because we wanted to.

 

[DeerPark12]

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that said, i also don't think we should do anything right now, given all the circumstances. but if this program decides it wants to be an elite program again, then at some point they're going to have to ask the question seriously...is butch jones going to be the guy to do that?

until then...it's just fodder for all of us.

It's a fair question, but blowing out a successful "good" coach in the pursuit of being "great" has backfired long-term on more schools than it was successful for.

If you're going 8-4 every year and never able to get over the hump, then you do something about it. But constantly hitting the reset button on your program makes you Colorado, where it was a good 20 years of failure between successful seasons.

 

[Poppa T]

Do you have a link for that article, because I have not seen or heard anything like that.

Re: the alleged Title IX comment made by Davenport in relation to the UTAD position. Like LWS, I have not read or seen any such article where she makes such a comment. What I have found are posts in VN that reference that claim. As far as actual news reports or interviews, it would appear to be an "urban legend". If someone actually finds it, they are a better data miner than I (and kudos to them).

THREAD: The Current Situation, post #1
THREAD: Can anyone with booster connections tell, post #4

 

[DeerPark12]

Re: the alleged Title IX comment made by Davenport in relation to the UTAD position. Like LWS, I have not read or seen any such article where she makes such a comment. What I have found are posts in VN that reference that claim. As far as actual news reports or interviews, it would appear to be an "urban legend". If someone actually finds it, they are a better data miner than I (and kudos to them).

THREAD: The Current Situation, post #1
THREAD: Can anyone with booster connections tell, post #4

It would go against everything I've heard internally and externally, so unless someone produces the story, I'm going to say it was someone's opinion, not a fact or an actual quote.

She needs to meet with Blackburn and make sure she's comfortable with him, which I think is wise. Then, things will start to move along.

 

[BeecherVol]

Yeah, this is pretty all wrong, but thanks for playing.

UT shelled out big money to bring Majors back home from Pittsburgh. He had just won a National Championship when he returned, that was not a hire made on the cheap. Now, Majors was ALWAYS chirping about his contract, thinking he should be the highest-paid coach in the country. Many times, UT obliged him and gave him a raise.

Fulmer was the hottest assistant in the country and had offers in hand from two SEC schools to become their head coach when the move was made on Majors. Chavis was consistently one of the highest-paid defensive coordinators in the country his last 10 years here.

Kiffin had been the head coach of a little-known team called the Oakland Raiders. But, sure, hiring an NFL coach that had been fired by an insane elderly man was doing it on the cheap. I'll give you Dooley, that was a debacle.

The "head booster" doesn't own the Browns. The son of one of UT's biggest boosters owns the Browns, but it's "Big Jim" Haslam that is our benefactor, not his son Jimmy. Jim is far from the only booster whose wallet speaks at UT.

Hiring an expensive coordinator goes against "all known facts and evidence?"How quickly you forget just last January when UT made Bob Shoop the 8th-highest paid assistant coach in the country.

But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rant?

That covers it pretty well.

 

[Behr]

It ain't no fun getting beech slapped.

 

[patrick]

Yeah, this is pretty all wrong, but thanks for playing.

UT shelled out big money to bring Majors back home from Pittsburgh. He had just won a National Championship when he returned, that was not a hire made on the cheap. Now, Majors was ALWAYS chirping about his contract, thinking he should be the highest-paid coach in the country. Many times, UT obliged him and gave him a raise.

Fulmer was the hottest assistant in the country and had offers in hand from two SEC schools to become their head coach when the move was made on Majors. Chavis was consistently one of the highest-paid defensive coordinators in the country his last 10 years here.

Kiffin had been the head coach of a little-known team called the Oakland Raiders. But, sure, hiring an NFL coach that had been fired by an insane elderly man was doing it on the cheap. I'll give you Dooley, that was a debacle.

The "head booster" doesn't own the Browns. The son of one of UT's biggest boosters owns the Browns, but it's "Big Jim" Haslam that is our benefactor, not his son Jimmy. Jim is far from the only booster whose wallet speaks at UT.

Hiring an expensive coordinator goes against "all known facts and evidence?"How quickly you forget just last January when UT made Bob Shoop the 8th-highest paid assistant coach in the country.

But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rant?

Add Charlie Ergen to that booster list - his net worth is up to $17.1 billion. I believe he was a walk-on basketball player for UT in the early 70's?

 

[landscapingvol]

Yeah, this is pretty all wrong, but thanks for playing.

UT shelled out big money to bring Majors back home from Pittsburgh. He had just won a National Championship when he returned, that was not a hire made on the cheap. Now, Majors was ALWAYS chirping about his contract, thinking he should be the highest-paid coach in the country. Many times, UT obliged him and gave him a raise.

Fulmer was the hottest assistant in the country and had offers in hand from two SEC schools to become their head coach when the move was made on Majors. Chavis was consistently one of the highest-paid defensive coordinators in the country his last 10 years here.

Kiffin had been the head coach of a little-known team called the Oakland Raiders. But, sure, hiring an NFL coach that had been fired by an insane elderly man was doing it on the cheap. I'll give you Dooley, that was a debacle.

The "head booster" doesn't own the Browns. The son of one of UT's biggest boosters owns the Browns, but it's "Big Jim" Haslam that is our benefactor, not his son Jimmy. Jim is far from the only booster whose wallet speaks at UT.

Hiring an expensive coordinator goes against "all known facts and evidence?"How quickly you forget just last January when UT made Bob Shoop the 8th-highest paid assistant coach in the country.

But, hey, why let facts get in the way of a good rant?

Clearly reading is not a strong suit for you, at no point did I say he was the only booster but Jim is the money man, not his son. Yes, his son technically owns the Browns but the Haslams as a family control the wealth and Jimmy is a benefactor. I also made the statement "since" Majors. Fulmer had never been a head coach, other than interim for a few games, therefore he was an unknown quantity which is precisely what I said. Kiffin was a head coach for a grand total of one and a half seasons in a dysfunctional franchise. He had never been a college head coach which is again an unknown. Strange how a West Coast guy couldn't get hired on the West Coast if he was such a "hot" commodity? He made very little at UT compared to other head coaches in the SEC. Bob Shoop would be tied for the 6th highest paid coordinator in the SEC tied with Kevin Steele behind Chavis, Aranda, Cameron (fired), Kiffin (left right after raise), and Pruitt. If you had actually read what I had to say, then you would have realized the context for coordinators was top pay. If you combine his salary with Debord, UT is barely in the middle of the road for SEC coordinator pay at around 1.6 million; which is behind Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Texas A & M, and Georgia. They are essentially tied with Arkansas, South Carolina, and Missouri. Four teams have to be removed from the list because they don't have two sole coordinators including Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Florida.

 

[landscapingvol]

i think the bigger question is where were those guys before they got where they are now?


point being, there are quality head coaches out there, and it's not likely we're going to poach any of those guys, or any of those big 3 that have been mentioned.

there's no guarantees. you don't know that Nick Saban is going to turn out to be "Nick Saban".

if they did, then why waste time with all the guys that came before he, or Meyer or Harbaugh?

you think if Clemson knew at the time Dabo would turn out like he has, they'd of wasted time with Tommy?

anyway.....this notion that we can't do better, or we should be scared of trying doesn't hold water.

that said, i also don't think we should do anything right now, given all the circumstances. but if this program decides it wants to be an elite program again, then at some point they're going to have to ask the question seriously...is butch jones going to be the guy to do that?

until then...it's just fodder for all of us.

Saban won a NC at LSU and was an NFL coach for multiple years?! Was that a serious point? Harbaugh revived two programs at Stanford and SDSU.
Meyer went to a BCS bowl at Utah. Was that a serious point? Umm, not to mention two NC's at UF before OSU. Dabo was on the verge of being fired at Clemson before spending money on big time coordinators and I never classified him as a sure fire winner. The jury is still out on Butch which was my point.

 

[landscapingvol]

That covers it pretty well.

Try again, internet cred leach. Clearly, he can't read and at no point have I said Blackburn wouldn't be the AD. opcorn:

 

[LWSVOL]

I have looked and looked for the Article I seen last week and now it is no where to be found. Maybe it was one of the bogus artlicles and has since been taken down. When I seen it I was quite surprised I figured someone from here had seen it. I could very well be wrong but I did read it. What it said was anyone that was involved in the title 9 and was at UT in that ERA including when Coach Fulmer was the Coach at UT until to Date she would not want them involved in the UTAD in any way shape or form, then it said which would include David Blackburn being hired as UTAD. I in no way claim to know all that goes on I was just hoping someone else had seen it and could explain to me if it was true or not.

Your reference is not the first reference I've seen to that but I've never seen direct quotes from her in that regard. I've also not seen an article talking about it. But yours is not the first time I've seen it mentioned on a message board.. Just don't recall which message board

It would be really, really bad and not very smart if she made that statement because the truth is, she is saying that anyone working in the Athletic Department needs to leave as soon as possible. They were all there during that episode or there would be very few that were not there.

That covers a lot of people including the football staff, football support staff and other staffs around campus. Would not be a very smart thing to say prior to even being approved to go forward from the BOT.

JMO

 

[LWSVOL]

The AD has been run by the three stooges for decades. UT has consistently went on the cheap with its coaches going back to Johnny Majors. Fulmer was an unknown quantity for the most part, as was Kiffin, and Dooley. Jones had experience but at lesser levels so why any of this is surprising is beyond me and that is with several different AD's and Administrators. The head booster owns the Browns. All this speculation of "UT is going to hire this high priced coordinator or that high priced head coach" goes against all known facts and evidence of UT's past. The powers that be aren't going to magically open up the checkbook simply because David Blackburn is an alum of UT.

Here is 8 million dollars. What coach is worth that money that you can entice to come to Tennessee? That would put that person on par with Saban, Meyer and Harbaugh.

 

[landscapingvol]

It would not surprise me in the least if that were a statement made by the incoming AD. That sums up UT's leadership over the last two decades.