UT just went all in, big boy money

#26
#26
I love how the article presents itself as UCLA stopped the negotiations with Barnes, Barnes wanted to stay here and used this chance to get a raise which is exactly what happen...Smart move on his part..
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tennesseefan2019
#28
#28
BearCat204 said:
and you don't believe they couldn't afford to pay his buyout do you

he turned them down plain and simple
Click to expand...
I think it was a combination of Rick Barnes wanting to stay,him wanting a raise and UCLA not being able to afford the buyout because they're paying Jim Mora Jr's and Steve Alford's buyouts
 
#29
#29
CA_Vol said:
Let’s pay the janitor $100k to coach and have we can all have fun, amirite?
Click to expand...

Again, I guess it's just the notion that fans are happy about having to spend MORE money for a something. We really had no choice but to make an offer he could not refuse otherwise we risk losing all the positivity surrounding what we've accomplished over the last 2 years. It did give us stability...I hope...and instills confidence on the recruiting front that he's going to remain a Vol until retirement...again...I hope.

Really hope it turns out to be a worthy investment.
 
  • Like
Reactions: cobbwebb0710 and CA_Vol
#30
#30
GOVOLS 1 said:
So another words, you're in mourning because Bruce isn’t coming back
Click to expand...

Bruce is never coming back. My post had nothing to do with that. You can't refute my points so you resort to something about Pearl?
 
#31
#31
Tennesseefan2019 said:
I think it was a combination of Rick Barnes wanting to stay,him wanting a raise and UCLA not being able to afford the buyout because they're paying Jim Mora Jr's and Steve Alford's buyouts
Click to expand...
I think the not being able to afford the buyout has been thrown out there to save face. Why in the world would you even attempt to talk to the guys they have offered if you cant afford the buyout......all of them have a higher buyout than CRB.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 08Vol and jackaro
#32
#32
CAVPUT said:
Awesome? I get your meaning, but I have to shake my head when people rejoice because we're spending even more money for a coach. I guess since fans don't receive a bill directly for his services it's lost the impact. When fans see seat prices go up, concessions go up, parking go up, etc, I hope they don't whine about it. Rejoice that we've now got to spend 4.7 million for a guy to coach a bunch of kids to play basketball. My word. It's akin to paying taxes. The fact that we don't have to write a check at the end of the year but instead the govt takes a bite every paycheck makes it something most folks ignore. They rejoice when they get a refund thinking it's free money from the govt. Pay that bill at the end of the year or better yet, in Nov right before elections and they'd damned well feel differently. Sorry for the rant. Again, not a slam on you. Just crazy that we wear spending that much money for a coach as something like a badge of honor. Like "we're UT. We pay top dollar for our coaching staffs". Just strikes me as a little...well...insane.
Click to expand...
so u rather us be mediocre so ticket prices stay low? Wow, do u feel that way towards football too? I'm sure Clemson fans hate their ticket prices...damn championships...
 
#36
#36
Tennesseefan2019 said:
UCLA got humiliated because they couldn't afford to pay Rick's buyout and they're trying to save face:DUCLA posters on Bruinzone say that Calipari and Barnes should pay them a commission for getting them raises:D

UCLA Basketball Forum
Click to expand...

Boy, that page layout sucks. Thanks Freak for making this site easy to use.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sport3500, b-ball fan, volfanhill and 2 others
#37
#37
Tennesseefan2019 said:
UCLA got humiliated because they couldn't afford to pay Rick's buyout and they're trying to save face:DUCLA posters on Bruinzone say that Calipari and Barnes should pay them a commission for getting them raises:D

UCLA Basketball Forum
Click to expand...
Lawdy, UCLA needs to pay someone 6 mil to develop them a web forum. That was hard to read. Makes me appreciate Freak all the more.....
 
  • Like
Reactions: Plecoptera and Tennesseefan2019
#38
#38
CAVPUT said:
Awesome? I get your meaning, but I have to shake my head when people rejoice because we're spending even more money for a coach. I guess since fans don't receive a bill directly for his services it's lost the impact. When fans see seat prices go up, concessions go up, parking go up, etc, I hope they don't whine about it. Rejoice that we've now got to spend 4.7 million for a guy to coach a bunch of kids to play basketball. My word. It's akin to paying taxes. The fact that we don't have to write a check at the end of the year but instead the govt takes a bite every paycheck makes it something most folks ignore. They rejoice when they get a refund thinking it's free money from the govt. Pay that bill at the end of the year or better yet, in Nov right before elections and they'd damned well feel differently. Sorry for the rant. Again, not a slam on you. Just crazy that we wear spending that much money for a coach as something like a badge of honor. Like "we're UT. We pay top dollar for our coaching staffs". Just strikes me as a little...well...insane.
Click to expand...

In the grand scheme of things, that isn't that much money. When you consider the difference in attendance of say 5,000 people, that adds up quite a bit. I mean, we are going to spend 3 million anyway, even for a Google coach. So, I say he earns that much by putting a winning product on the floor.

What is insane is when corporate "leaders" make millions of dollars when their company is about to go into bankrupcy. That is just wrong. At least Barnes has peformed at a high level. He has earned it. My cutoff point was $5 million. They kept it below that. So, I'm "happy."
 
  • Like
Reactions: CAVPUT and Tennesseefan2019
#41
#41
CAVPUT said:
Again, I guess it's just the notion that fans are happy about having to spend MORE money for a something. We really had no choice but to make an offer he could not refuse otherwise we risk losing all the positivity surrounding what we've accomplished over the last 2 years. It did give us stability...I hope...and instills confidence on the recruiting front that he's going to remain a Vol until retirement...again...I hope.

Really hope it turns out to be a worthy investment.
Click to expand...
There you go. You just answered your own question. We could have let him walk and start over, or we could invest heavily and show our commitment to basketball, not only to Rick Barnes and his staff, but to whoever his replacement will be in the next decade. We also ensured ourselves that his salary likely won’t need to be radically renegotiated going forward thru retirement. He basically just capped himself, so the only potential negotiation should revolve around number of years on his deal, which as long as he is winning, should stay in the 4-5 year range.

Recruits should be able to see that deal and feel secure that Barnes is in it for the long haul.

I mentioned it another thread early yesterday morning, but this had the potential to put Tennessee basketball on a pedestal. A HOF coach turns down more money from a blue blood program to stay at Tennessee. The reasons for actually doing that aren’t really important. The perception is that he views the Tennessee job as a better one, for whatever reason, and he is going to amplify that belief on the recruiting trail.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VolGee4
#42
#42
CAVPUT said:
Awesome? I get your meaning, but I have to shake my head when people rejoice because we're spending even more money for a coach. I guess since fans don't receive a bill directly for his services it's lost the impact. When fans see seat prices go up, concessions go up, parking go up, etc, I hope they don't whine about it. Rejoice that we've now got to spend 4.7 million for a guy to coach a bunch of kids to play basketball. My word. It's akin to paying taxes. The fact that we don't have to write a check at the end of the year but instead the govt takes a bite every paycheck makes it something most folks ignore. They rejoice when they get a refund thinking it's free money from the govt. Pay that bill at the end of the year or better yet, in Nov right before elections and they'd damned well feel differently. Sorry for the rant. Again, not a slam on you. Just crazy that we wear spending that much money for a coach as something like a badge of honor. Like "we're UT. We pay top dollar for our coaching staffs". Just strikes me as a little...well...insane.
Click to expand...
It just keeps getting more insane really, because you can bet the football coaches are watching this, and they know how much more they bring in than bball. Bama and LSU still have to hire their coaching replacements, so we could see more big money tossed around. A Jimbo contract will be the standard going forward for football coach hires.
 
#43
#43
Pay what the market demands. Simple economics. Same for tickets. I'd rather pay to keep an elite coach or attract one than to pay millions in buyouts for a guy not to coach.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JacketVol
#44
#44
The amount was easy to afford with all the TV money and 18 to 20 thousand plus crowds every game. UCLA was gonna pay more with their 9000 a game. Basketball will still be quite profitable if we keep winning games. Now Rick has a job to do keep us in the hunt for SEC titles and NCAA tourney appearances with deep runs or even a title.
 
#47
#47
CAVPUT said:
Awesome? I get your meaning, but I have to shake my head when people rejoice because we're spending even more money for a coach. I guess since fans don't receive a bill directly for his services it's lost the impact. When fans see seat prices go up, concessions go up, parking go up, etc, I hope they don't whine about it. Rejoice that we've now got to spend 4.7 million for a guy to coach a bunch of kids to play basketball. My word. It's akin to paying taxes. The fact that we don't have to write a check at the end of the year but instead the govt takes a bite every paycheck makes it something most folks ignore. They rejoice when they get a refund thinking it's free money from the govt. Pay that bill at the end of the year or better yet, in Nov right before elections and they'd damned well feel differently. Sorry for the rant. Again, not a slam on you. Just crazy that we wear spending that much money for a coach as something like a badge of honor. Like "we're UT. We pay top dollar for our coaching staffs". Just strikes me as a little...well...insane.
Click to expand...

I understand your point, but today's D1 college athletics are just another big business. College sports at this level are no longer student athletic events. This result is exactly what accompanies a big business model for college sports. And as in any consumer targeted business, who pays? Ultimately the consumer.

Truthfully, I'd be totally okay with all of college athletics returning to the D3 model, but that is never going to happen, especially at the big state schools. Most of today's fans don't remember that in the not so distant past amateur athletes played for themselves and their colleges for the fun of playing and with very little thought or opportunity for a big pay off in the sport. If people still read books, they could read about it. It was less than 100 years ago.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JacketVol and CAVPUT
#49
#49
EZE said:
You can b!tch and moan all you want, but UT has lagged in coaches’ salaries in all sports ... until Fulmer stepped in.

In football, we are finally catching up in coordinator compensation. And, whether you agree with paying Barnes or not, we are making a statement about men’s basketball.

To be the best you have to attract top shelf coaches. You only do that by paying top shelf salaries. UT is finally making a statement that it is in it to win.
Click to expand...

It may be a little early for this subject, but if "one and done" is on the way out, (hopefully). Barnes may be a real bargain. I think without saying his ability teach and develop may make him worth every penny we pay.
 
  • Like
Reactions: cobbwebb0710 and Tennesseefan2019
#50
#50
Tennesseefan2019 said:
UCLA got humiliated because they couldn't afford to pay Rick's buyout and they're trying to save face:DUCLA posters on Bruinzone say that Calipari and Barnes should pay them a commission for getting them raises:D

UCLA Basketball Forum
Click to expand...

So???? Have we not said the same thing in our searches when this has happened?? This happens in all types of jobs and careers, it is called "career enhancement" in some cases. In others, better life or more money or just as simple as "just ready for a change". My simple minded way to explain it is, "the grass is perceived to be greener on the other side of the fence".
 
  • Like
Reactions: JacketVol
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top