Ukraine Protests

[DC_Vol]

Should the US:

1) move ships into the area?

2) mobilize any Western European bases or resources?

3) actually in some way suggest any kind of military response?

4) Obama needs to make a seminal speech

 

[volinbham]

From the above article

EU nations once under Soviet occupation, such as Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and the Czech Republic, went into the talks demanding support for US proposals for sanctions against Russia.
Germany, Italy and a group of other countries with close economic ties with Russia, including a dependency on Russia gas supplies, took a softer line expressing EU divisions that are expected to emerge again later in the week.

 

[volprof]

We are now 2 hours from the deadline for Ukrainian forces to surrender in Crimea.

It will be interesting to see what happens. I wish the best for the common folk in the Ukraine. Putin is crazy enough and careless enough, in my opinion to do just about anything other than maybe an unprompted nuclear war. Thank god. Seriously.

 

[Dave1967]

EU sets it's own deadline

Ukraine crisis: EU gives Russia 48-hour deadline to return troops to barracks in Crimea - Telegraph

I bet ole' Vlad is really getting a big laugh off of that. The EU wont do jack sh ite.

 

[lawgator1]

Why? Nothing any president can do will have any impact or so I've been told.

That's my thinking but I'm asking you what you think we should do.

 

[lawgator1]

The US and Europe are going to take the 1938 Peace in Our time approach

So what do you think we should do? Particularly in military sense.

 

[volinbham]

That's my thinking but I'm asking you what you think we should do.

Push EU to support sanctions. Hold off on military rhetoric and actions (boats to Black Sea) until things deteriorate.

 

[Dave1967]

4) Obama needs to make a seminal speech

Obama can have a beer summit with Putinlol:

 

[lawgator1]

Push EU to support sanctions. Hold off on military rhetoric and actions (boats to Black Sea) until things deteriorate.

That seems to be what we are doing now.

 

[volprof]

I bet ole' Vlad is really getting a big laugh off of that. The EU wont do jack sh ite.

If ole' Vlad doesn't start getting a bit smarter domestically, the last laugh will be on him.

 

[Dave1967]

So what do you think we should do? Particularly in military sense.

I would push NATO to send in forces to force Russia to back down. It wouldn't be too hard moving through Romania would be in easiest way.

 

[Abe Hoffman]

Too young and too stupid.

No, not stupid. Naive, yes.

 

[DC_Vol]

Obama can have a beer summit with Putinlol:

Talk a little global thermonuclear war over a few glasses of vodka and a Бутерброд.

 

[Grand Vol]

Talk a little global thermonuclear war over a few glasses of vodka and a Бутерброд.

Made and served by hot Ukrainian women?

 

[KentheOrange]

Just so there's no confusion, I think Obama's handling of Syria mixed. For one, he didn't risk feet on the ground and given his actions in Libya, one wonders how the right would have criticized more "unnecessary spending" amid the rising debt. Nonetheless, to the point many of you have been making, yes, the "line in the sand" was ridiculous. He handled that miserably.

Also, Benghazi was handled miserably. Although I've heard that the embassy had denied additional protection (take that for what you will), the administration's handling of the aftermath was detestable.

No. The handling of the situation on the ground was detestable. The handling/lies of the aftermath was less than despicable.

 

[DC_Vol]

Made and served by hot Ukrainian women?

You're speaking my language. :dance2:

 

[Dave1967]

If ole' Vlad doesn't start getting a bit smarter domestically, the last laugh will be on him.

If I were Putin I would probably gamble like Germany did in 1937-1938 in absorbing Austria and Czechoslovakia not believing the other powers(then France and Great Britain)would do anything about it. I would go ahead and occupy the Ukraine if I were him.

 

[Grand Vol]

No. The handling of the situation on the ground was detestable. The handling/lies of the aftermath was less than despicable.

I think the term you are looking for is "criminal."

 

[volprof]

If I were Putin I would probably gamble like Germany did in 1937-1938 in absorbing Austria and Czechoslovakia not believing the other powers(then France and Great Britain)would do anything about it. I would go ahead and occupy the Ukraine if I were him.

haha! Sure, he could do that, but may not be the smartest path to follow.

 

[lawgator1]

I would push NATO to send in forces to force Russia to back down. It wouldn't be too hard moving through Romania would be in easiest way.

LOL, get NATO to invade Russia?

 

[FLVOL69]

I think the term you are looking for is "criminal."

Exactly..The Butcher of Benghazi .

 

[volprof]

I think the term you are looking for is "criminal."

"Criminal" is a term that could be used to designate many of our "esteemed" leaders. But, yes, I'm positive we could call out the Obama administration for criminal violations as well.

 

[Dave1967]

LOL, get NATO to invade Russia?

Or peace keepers in the Ukraine

 

[volinbham]

That seems to be what we are doing now.

yes for the most part - other than being a bit more public about it and speaking directly rather than through Kerry I'd say that's about all we should do now.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Exactly..

:sick: Stop w/the Hillary pics. Halloween is NOT coming soon.