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Known Knowns and the Nemtsov Murder

I have become increasingly concerned and even somewhat irked by a lot of the easy misstatement of basic facts around Boris Nemtsov’s murder and the way that those determined to see this as a “Kremlin hit” are interpreting every fact or inference as proof thereof. I’m on record as saying that I do not know, but think it unlikely it was a state-sanctioned assassination.
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Grand Vol said:
It's always hilarious watching you dig deep and find something from 30 years ago that might have happened on a different continent and attempt to apply it to today.
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He's the master. I'm always impressed by how he can go back through a thread of some odd thousands of posts and find the one place where you said so-and-so.
 
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Grand Vol said:
It's always hilarious watching you dig deep and find something from 30 years ago that might have happened on a different continent and attempt to apply it to today.
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So some of those same minds don't have any influence in the CIA today? You telling me assassination isn't in the CIA playbook anymore?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So some of those same minds don't have any influence in the CIA today? You telling me assassination isn't in the CIA playbook anymore?
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Probably still is.

Are you telling me Russia isn't using a cold war mentality by fighting a proxy war in Eastern Ukraine?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So some of those same minds don't have any influence in the CIA today? You telling me assassination isn't in the CIA playbook anymore?
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So just curious but if this is your logic why are you such a defender of Putin? The man was an officer in the KGB and was a student of Stasi operations in GDR. It's bad enough the knowledge he had from the KGB. Add to that what he gained from some of the dirtiest and most cut throat in the business? Do you think somehow Putin just dropped all his knowledge he acquired all those years and became a legit world leader? Is Putin really on the up and up? Is assassination not in Putin's playbook? Agitprop? Active measures? Just curious since we do want to be consistent here.
 
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People saying Nemtsov was killed because he was going to expose Russia's involvement in Ukraine, but if he was smart he would have had all that information in the cloud, where it couldn't be confiscated.

In fact I've seen his associates are planning to release it soon.
 
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Pacer92 said:
US Propaganda: How Corporate America Manipulates the American Public Into Unwitting Support for Corporate Fascism | Global Research
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what a load of crap. this article relies on the reader not looking into any of the incidents it mentions. (something the article is saying the Boogey Man MSM is forcing Americans to do)

it brings up privatizing water in Latin America and how that is evil despite the fact the government owned and operated systems suck and people are dying because of it. So their argument is the government sucks but corporations suck worse, doesn't leave a lot of options. and last time i checked I paid for water and haven't been denied any rights from it.

article brings up more WWII crap which has already been discussed elsewhere.

apparently saying the Jews can live in Israel, and supporting that statement = the genocide of Palestinians (we are doing a terrible job at that btw its been 60yrs and we are at exactly the same point)

I honestly don't know enough about the Vietnam part to really weigh in there except to say, how can it be illegal for a US liason/diplomat to interact with a foreign country?(the one they were supposed to be liasoning with)

the drug stuff is a mess, agreed, but its enough of a mess where finger pointing is naive.

really wish i could get my dad on here to talk to you guys about the 2008 downfall. people saw it coming they were just too busy making money to stop it. (and that is people everywhere even the lower/middle class) people jumped in without looking and got burned, oh darn the upper class listened and was ready.

they keep using the term fascism I don't think they know what that really means. dictionary.com
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
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the article keeps talking about the corporate puppet masters, it can't be fascism if the industry and commerce are dictating what the government does(that argument has some merit but the use of fascism is wrong), its backwards.

please come up with an article that at least uses the right terminology. and then we can go back to the other issues with this article which i am sure you will ignore as well.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
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Those were all within one decade, by the way. Russian government official boasted about withstanding "decades" of color revolutions.
 
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MG1968 said:
and what, exactly, did the Cedar Revolution in Lebanon have to do with Russian interests?
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i have no idea, there is probably some American deputy aide to the retired regional diplomatic liason caught discussing the vote on camera.

being slightly more serious my guess was because Syria lost control of a land it was forcibly occupying it must have been the US's fault.
 
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