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Why is noted Russian fascist (and connected with Putin and all these other players in Crimea and Ukraine) Alexander Dugin urgently calling for volunteers to fight in "Novorossiya"? Something about to happen we don't know about? Well we know about it actually...

https://vk.com/duginag?w=wall18631635_4620

Mass repost! Everyone who wants to take part in the liberation of New Russia, write in PM Alexander Grun. Recruit volunteers! Especially needed artillery, tanks and DRG, as officers and warrant officers, petty officers and sergeants with experience in office management. Dear volunteers, set produce only 18 years old. Young people place please notify their loved ones, that there were no misunderstandings! Take care of their mothers!
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How scared is Putin? BTRs on the streets of Moscow today:

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Putin puppet Kadyrov is saying the CIA is behind this. Another Russian media says "American owned" Wikipedia reported the death before it happened.

I still think it is very odd that a location with cameras on the Kremlin itself are pointed here and little is known. Add to the fact that Nemtsov was always watched by FSB. A guy like him is always being monitored. So whether Putin was involved or not, you question how this could have happened and perps get away when the guy was being watched constantly. Not to mention cameras all over the place. If Putin claims non-involvement someone has to answer how this could have been pulled off under the watchful eye of the Kremlin - both with human trails and cameras. If this turns to Muslim terrorists, then Putin looks weak with a major assassination right under his nose by his Kremlin in his capital. This is going to be difficult to spin.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Why is noted Russian fascist (and connected with Putin and all these other players in Crimea and Ukraine) Alexander Dugin urgently calling for volunteers to fight in "Novorossiya"? Something about to happen we don't know about? Well we know about it actually...

https://vk.com/duginag?w=wall18631635_4620
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Where's the need for all these volunteers and equipment with all the Russian regulars and hardware in E Ukraine as you proclaim?!
 
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Pacer92 said:
Where's the need for all these volunteers and equipment with all the Russian regulars and hardware in E Ukraine as you proclaim?!
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Posted a video a couple of days ago (I think) that had one of the Russian militant leaders calling for more citizens of Donbass to fight. He said most are escaping to other parts of Ukraine, Poland, and Belarus.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Where's the need for all these volunteers and equipment with all the Russian regulars and hardware in E Ukraine as you proclaim?!
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Did you not watch the video I posted earlier? The Russian nationals behind this answer your questions directly. Again, no western MSM spin. That video is straight from the mouths of Russian government and connected sources. Not as I claim but as the instigators themselves claim.
 
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volprof said:
"Looks like the Northern Caucasus needs a little more Russian freedom."

- Vladimir Putin
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"Quick! Distract the world from what we're about to do in Ukraine with dirty deeds from the bad Muslims! Everyone hates Muslims! Come on world! Join us!"
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Putin puppet Kadyrov is saying the CIA is behind this. Another Russian media says "American owned" Wikipedia reported the death before it happened.

I still think it is very odd that a location with cameras on the Kremlin itself are pointed here and little is known. Add to the fact that Nemtsov was always watched by FSB. A guy like him is always being monitored. So whether Putin was involved or not, you question how this could have happened and perps get away when the guy was being watched constantly. Not to mention cameras all over the place. If Putin claims non-involvement someone has to answer how this could have been pulled off under the watchful eye of the Kremlin - both with human trails and cameras. If this turns to Muslim terrorists, then Putin looks weak with a major assassination right under his nose by his Kremlin in his capital. This is going to be difficult to spin.
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You're right though. He was under 24/7 FSB surveillance, so they had to be in a position to intervene.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
"Quick! Distract the world from what we're about to do in Ukraine with dirty deeds from the bad Muslims! Everyone hates Muslims! Come on world! Join us!"
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RT is already jumping on the theory it is linked to Charlie Hebo/Islamic extremists.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
"Quick! Distract the world from what we're about to do in Ukraine with dirty deeds from the bad Muslims! Everyone hates Muslims! Come on world! Join us!"
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I've been hearing the Muslim terrorist angle to this.

Doesn't make any sense to me. If wanting to commit a provocation, why kill an opposition leader?

Makes no sense. Which in itself makes sense, because this is obviously not the reality of the situation.
 
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Another odd angle - an explanation of Putin's "provocation" comment is actually directed internally. A few tweets are saying this is a faction within the government AND/OR nationalists furious with Putin's letup in Ukraine sending him a message that he can easily be framed/blamed. Apparently, the thought here is a group of Putin supporters are getting irritated with his actions and are "motivating" him by a threat to his power. While I am not one to think this, this is something not completely out of the question in Russian politics. Most in government have the Soviet/KGB/hardliner nationalist background. It's happened before and it can definitely happen again.
 
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A Ukrainian journalist was killed by mortar fire in Pisky, how can this be when a cease-fire is effect?
 
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Mr Nemtsov - who I met several times - was a charismatic and courageous defender of democratic values who condemned violence, and Russia needs more of his kind.
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Yeah, well when guys like him are jailed, deported, or killed Russia needs a lot more just to be able to survive at this rate...

PACE: News
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Another odd angle - an explanation of Putin's "provocation" comment is actually directed internally. A few tweets are saying this is a faction within the government AND/OR nationalists furious with Putin's letup in Ukraine sending him a message that he can easily be framed/blamed. Apparently, the thought here is a group of Putin supporters are getting irritated with his actions and are "motivating" him by a threat to his power. While I am not one to think this, this is something not completely out of the question in Russian politics. Most in government have the Soviet/KGB/hardliner nationalist background. It's happened before and it can definitely happen again.
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That would be more troubling than Putin himself ordering the hit.
 
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Burhead said:
A Ukrainian journalist was killed by mortar fire in Pisky, how can this be when a cease-fire is effect?
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A Ukrainian pilot was kidnapped, taken to Russia, and is being tried for allegedly killing journalists. The culprits in this Pisky killing will never be caught because of this amnesty and ceasefire...shame.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
A Ukrainian pilot was kidnapped, taken to Russia, and is being tried for allegedly killing journalists. The culprits in this Pisky killing will never be caught because of this amnesty and ceasefire...shame.
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So this amnesty thing just kind of allows the "freedom-lovers" to do whatever they want, huh?
 
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volprof said:
So this amnesty thing just kind of allows the "freedom-lovers" to do whatever they want, huh?
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Azov suffered a loss of soldier today in Shyrokyne as well. In addition a Ukrainian soldier was also killed in that mortar attack in Pisky.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
More of these are showing up and some tweets have more outside Moscow coming in. Does the march get shut down? To use a Russian phrase, are we about to see "punitive measures"?
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Seeing where the City of Moscow authorized a march up to 50,000 people so we will see. Also see some pics of the police's armored riot vehicles massed as well.
 
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Burhead said:
Looks like the Kremlin is breaking out the OMON troops to greet mourners. How sad.

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TechCamp guys were spotted. Putin is taking precautionary measures. He already took out the "US puppet" Nemtsov so the Russian "Maidan" will have to follow a different path.

Guess it's time for me to go dark as well. Things to do... :)
 
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