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Lithuania restores military service - Independent.ie

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lithuania-says-plans-renew-military-conscription-130811069.html#5bDn0Rv

A little more information;

* Will apply to men 19-26
* Exemptions for university students and single fathers
* Will draft around 3,500 men per year
* The draft will only be limited to the next five years
* Men will be drafted for 9 months

Also one article states that Latvia is trying to recruit between 2,000 to 7,000 new soldiers but no plans to reinstate conscription.
 
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Burhead said:
Lithuania restores military service - Independent.ie

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lithuania-says-plans-renew-military-conscription-130811069.html#5bDn0Rv

A little more information;

* Will apply to men 19-26
* Exemptions for university students and single fathers
* Will draft around 3,500 men per year
* The draft will only be limited to the next five years
* Men will be drafted for 9 months

Also one article states that Latvia is trying to recruit between 2,000 to 7,000 new soldiers but no plans to reinstate conscription.
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some funny comments in the second article. apparently lithuania doesn't deserve freedom.
 
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volprof said:
It takes a very special person to believe anything the "pro-Russian" side says. They've taken two more cities today in the "buffer zone."

http://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-separatists-take-two-towns-push-mariupol-309068
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uhm, i wouldn't say taken, seized maybe but even that implies a little more than what happened

krainian newspaper Ukrainskaya Pravda spoke to the press secretary of the local volunteer battalion Sector M who said: “These points are situated in the buffer zone, they are not under our control and we do not have anyone stationed there. The militants can simply go there.”
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awesome title btw, i am jealous
Lilia Shevtsova, Kremlinologist
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LouderVol said:
you also need to read cdizzy's timeline. the article you link makes some of the same jumps other posters in here have made despite the simple facts of the dates of these events largely disprove the angle you are pushing.
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Really I don't need to do anything. There is no angle I am pushing, that was a Ron Paul article I simply shared with everyone. I will say this again and again and again though plain and simple.. No more foreign wars. Enough.
 
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myrobbins7 said:
Really I don't need to do anything. There is no angle I am pushing, that was a Ron Paul article I simply shared with everyone. I will say this again and again and again though plain and simple.. No more foreign wars. Enough.
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good idea, stop outsourcing our wars, instead lets fight them on our territory while our civilians get blown up. and since neither the US nor NATO has invaded Ukraine (in fact we have been asked to increase our presence and that hasn't caused any civil outbreaks over there) your argument doesn't fit to well in this thread.

your policy doesn't work in the modern age, with our history. we can't just reset 70-100 years of history
 
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LouderVol said:
good idea, stop outsourcing our wars, instead lets fight them on our territory while our civilians get blown up. and since neither the US nor NATO has invaded Ukraine (in fact we have been asked to increase our presence and that hasn't caused any civil outbreaks over there) your argument doesn't fit to well in this thread.

your policy doesn't work in the modern age, with our history. we can't just reset 70-100 years of history
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Ok.. :eek:lol:
 
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myrobbins7 said:
Ok.. :eek:lol:
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great argument. however, i have to disagree with your overall synopsis and the way you presented your facts left too much to the imagination. If you would care to reformat your perspective and present it in a more rational and loquacious manner i would be receptive to the exchange of ideas and possible conversation.
 
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Don't think I linked to it here but I read an article that China is the real "winner" from the Ukraine saga because a desperate Russia is being forced to cut deals with it.
 
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With expert "intellectual" analysis like this, no wonder they hate us so much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDfpMrgnVf4

Fact of the matter is, and you can try to dispute it till your head falls off, the post-WWII world (that is, the world created by and dominated by America) has been the most peaceful and stable, relatively speaking, in human history. It has also seen the most prosperity, and not just for Americans. (Hello, China and India - success impossible without the American system aiding them along.) This is all arbitrated by the American system and is no fluke.

Sure we've done many stupid things. Sure we've overstepped our bounds on several occasions, but just because we have a constant 24/7 global news cycle to remind us of everything bad happening in the world doesn't mean this period is "bad," per se.

World, you're welcome!
 
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volprof said:
With expert "intellectual" analysis like this, no wonder they hate us so much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDfpMrgnVf4

Fact of the matter is, and you can try to dispute it till your head falls off, the post-WWII world (that is, the world created by and dominated by America) has been the most peaceful and stable, relatively speaking, in human history. It has also seen the most prosperity, and not just for Americans. (Hello, China and India - success impossible without the American system aiding them along.) This is all arbitrated by the American system and is no fluke.

Sure we've done many stupid things. Sure we've overstepped our bounds on several occasions, but just because we have a constant 24/7 global news cycle to remind us of everything bad happening in the world doesn't mean this period is "bad," per se.

World, you're welcome!
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and don't tell them about all the help we gave post USSR Russia. almost as soon as the wall fell we were in for trade agreements and i am sure there was some propping up done as well.
 
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LouderVol said:
and don't tell them about all the help we gave post USSR Russia. almost as soon as the wall fell we were in for trade agreements and i am sure there was some propping up done as well.
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Capital investment = America's Trojan horse plot to carve out another nation's innards

By the way, did anyone else see the Venezuelan government is accusing the U.S. of attempting to orchestrate a coup there? Believe it or not!
 
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Velo Vol said:
Capital investment = America's Trojan horse plot to carve out another nation's innards

By the way, did anyone else see the Venezuelan government is accusing the U.S. of attempting to orchestrate a coup there? Believe it or not!
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That's not new news. They've been trying for yrs now...
 
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Venezuela's crude is as apparently as useless as Putin's comment that war with Ukraine is unlikely.

It's a dump.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_09mazZs8

I've not watched his part II yet, but the guy really seems to get Russia's position in the world, and not just as a "They're harried from all sides, woe is them" sort of way. Starts off like it's going to be another anti-US beatdown, but ends up completely different.

I wish Ras and Pacer could watch this. It would hopefully help them understand how Russia is not a bastion of world stability and multinational freedom.

Wishful thinking, I'm sure.
 
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volprof said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_09mazZs8[/youtube]
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Interesting inclusion of geography into the analysis.

However, I didn't follow what he said Russia has done in that Kyrgyzstan valley to maintain the status quo there.
 
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Soon.

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