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LouderVol said:
this is common with pretty much all rebellions, getting recognized as sovereign by foreign nations is a big deal. Until the UN grants them their status I don't see why would have to recognize their elections.
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Yet they had no problem recognizing the elections in Kiev...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Yet they had no problem recognizing the elections in Kiev...
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yeah after the population ran off the President, who had just pulled a complete 180 politically on what he had been preaching then fled to the Russia. they ran off one man, not exactly a revolution. the parliament (or whatever they call it) didn't change at all. (except for the whole Crimera thing-Russia) DPR and LPR are creating completely new governments from within the existing structure of a recognized sovereign nation, hopefully you can tell the difference. basically the people of Kiev impeached their president, i dont know if they have a legal means for that or not, doesn't change the system of government as would happen in a rebellion, that would need recognizing.
 
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One of the things that frustrates me so much is how media outlets like RT constantly try to portray America as not only the source of all problems in the world but as a cesspool of crime, racism, homelessness, poverty, and violence.

Put this in your pipe and smoke it, RT.

African migrants in Russia describe 'hell on Earth' - LA Times

You not only have a higher crime and murder rate, you're also just as racist. Congratulations!
 
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volprof said:
One of the things that frustrates me so much is how media outlets like RT constantly try to portray America as not only the source of all problems in the world but as a cesspool of crime, racism, homelessness, poverty, and violence.

Put this in your pipe and smoke it, RT.

African migrants in Russia describe 'hell on Earth' - LA Times

You not only have a higher crime and murder rate, you're also just as racist. Congratulations!
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It still doesn't change the fact that we have the largest prison population on the planet, we spread debt, death and misery all across the globe and the treatment those Africans are receiving today in Russia pales in comparison to what blacks saw here in America.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It still doesn't change the fact that we have the largest prison population on the planet, we spread debt, death and misery all across the globe and the treatment those Africans are receiving today in Russia pales in comparison to what blacks saw here in America.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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So would you rather live here or in Russia?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I really can't answer that. I don't know if I could deal with the weather and the language would be an obstacle.
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Be nice if you decided to take up residence in a Siberian gulag. Wouldn't have to worry about the language gap there.
 
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If this image doesn't speak of a free and fair election, I don't know what does.

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LouderVol said:
too many white people

i know i know, racist. fricking white people.
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Speaking of which

African migrants in Russia describe "hell on Earth" - LA Times

And to no one's surprise

The outcome of the vote was never in much doubt. Rather than offering a range of plausible opposition candidates, the voting for members of Parliament and heads of state in Donetsk and Luhansk was significant in highlighting Ukraine’s loss of control over those territories, and Russia’s strengthening influence.

After voting, Mr. Zakharchenko said he had cast his vote for “peace,” the news agency RIA Novosti reported, because the election would force the central government in Kiev to “recognize us” and “give us our land back without a fight.” He added that he would “establish good diplomatic relations.”
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Amusing lines highlighted.
 
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Ukraine thread is a way of life.

Once it gets in your blood, you're Ukraine thread for life. Five years from now, we'll all be sitting here yelling at one another about Russia and America in Ukraine Protests III.
 
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red butler said:
This article has an interesting speech from Putin Why Is Putin Hated? – LewRockwell.com

He seems pretty level headed to me, but I'd be interested in others' perspective on how they interpret the speech.
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reading now, holy crap is he long winded. so far haven't made it to anything beyond a 101 of Anti-America Propaganda (not saying what he is saying is wrong just saying so far its nothing new)
 
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MG1968 said:
Paul Craig Roberts is like Alex Jones with an advanced degree or two.
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Roberts also has a very long resume to go along with his degrees. IMO he shouldn't be compared to a shock jock like Alex Jones. Are we at the point where every former government official that criticizes our foreign policy is going to be branded a conspiracy theorist?
 
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red butler said:
Roberts also has a very long resume to go along with his degrees. IMO he shouldn't be compared to a shock jock. Are we at the point where every former government official that criticizes our foreign policy is going to be branded a conspiracy theorist?
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On his blog site, a guest contributor posited the notion that the Ebola crisis in Africa was caused by the US military testing of an airborne, weaponized version.

Now, I know PCR didn't write that, but it appears on his site without caveat.

And yes, I'm well aware of his resume and the fact that he served under Reagan. That alone would make you scratch your head in wonder at his heaping high praise on a former member of the KGB.
 
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MG1968 said:
And yes, I'm well aware of his resume and the fact that he served under Reagan. That alone would make you scratch your head in wonder at his heaping high praise on a former member of the KGB.
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Exactly.. In your opinion, why would someone (PCR is not the only one) who served under Reagan give high praise to Putin?
 
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