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Velo Vol said:
Wonder if there's Russian agitators?
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Well they just raised the Russian VDV flag over a gov't building...

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Yep, a few brawls on the Parliament floor will solve some problems. Why can't we have something like this happen? Because I'd love to see someone go up and pimp slap Nancy Pelosi right before she begins her seal clapping.

Pro-Russian demonstrators loot Ukraine buildings as lawmakers brawl in Parliament | Fox News

Masked, pro-Russian activists in eastern Ukraine have begun looting government offices in Donetsk, the largest and most influential city of Ukraine's industrialized eastern and southern provinces, in a move that could portend further fragmenting of the beleaguered nation.

According to the few independent media outlets remaining in the city, masked men on Monday night were seen carrying computer servers from the Donetsk Province government administration building. Earlier in the day, separatist leaders declared the creation of the Donetsk People's Republic. The so-called declaration of independence, which was broadcast via Internet, said that “the people of Donetsk People's Republic have an exclusive right to its land, subsoil, air space, water and other natural resources” and that the newly created republic has a right for an independent financial, economic and other policies.
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I feel this is the beginning of the end for the Ukraine as we know it.
 
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Ukrainian security services have launched "anti-terror" operations in the East, Russia has said they will not attend talks if Kiev uses forces against the resistive East. This could be just the thing the Kremlin was hoping to sue for justification.
 
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Velo Vol said:
This report suggests to me that much of the confrontation is being staged by a small number of people, and the vast majority of the local population don't really care.

In Eastern Ukraine, Normality Rules Except At Ground Zero : Parallels : NPR
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Let's be real and say these guys are Russian FSB and special forces. With that said an initial operation failed after meeting heavier than expected resistance. The acting President has now issued a statement saying the armed forces will be launching their own attempt soon.

Also Yanukovych will make a statement soon per rumors.
 
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Burhead said:
Let's be real and say these guys are Russian FSB and special forces. With that said an initial operation failed after meeting heavier than expected resistance. The acting President has now issued a statement saying the armed forces will be launching their own attempt soon.

Also Yanukovych will make a statement soon per rumors.
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Seems like there's truth to the quote that 10% of the population is determining what's going on.

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Russia Accuses Ukraine Of Reckless Aggression, In Breathtaking Propaganda Feat - Business Insider

Did they hire Baghdad Bob to read this stuff?
 
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Just passing through. But has anyone verified reports concerning the gun battle between pro-Russian (aka, Russian special forces and FSB, as Burhead pointed out) and Ukrainian security forces? Apparently a Ukrainian was killed and members of both sides were wounded.

Sounds like Vlad and the gang are not satisfied with the eastern Ukrainian populace's "Russian re-integration" initiative. So, now they're "casually" dropping in to create some concerns about Ukrainian fascism. There are also reports of armed men resembling those in Crimea last month appearing in eastern Ukraine. I don't know that a full invasion happens, but eastern Ukraine is looking more and more like Crimea.
 
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volprof said:
Just passing through. But has anyone verified reports concerning the gun battle between pro-Russian (aka, Russian special forces and FSB, as Burhead pointed out) and Ukrainian security forces? Apparently a Ukrainian was killed and members of both sides were wounded.

Sounds like Vlad and the gang are not satisfied with the eastern Ukrainian populace's "Russian re-integration" initiative. So, now they're "casually" dropping in to create some concerns about Ukrainian fascism. There are also reports of armed men resembling those in Crimea last month appearing in eastern Ukraine. I don't know that a full invasion happens, but eastern Ukraine is looking more and more like Crimea.
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The BBC confirmed the firefight.

@PzFeed 1h

Russia's foreign ministry says decision by acting Ukraine president to mobilize army is "a criminal order" - IFAX

Also part of the Yanukovych

@gerrydogma

Yanukovych: Ukraine has entered a civil war. No need for elections now

Yanukovych: the United States, CIA are behind the unrest in Eastern Ukraine (@MaximEristavi)

Yanukovych: Ukraine has now entered a civil war. No need for elections now.
 
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKuN7B6m20[/youtube]

Ukrainian SA-17 (from rough guess) apparently moving towards Donetsk. I think it is starting to officially go down, Russia won't let the military intervene with Russian forces crossing the border.
 
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