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Grand Vol said:
Don't know. The curious part in this is the fact the Crimea is still landlocked away from Russia and will depend on the Ukraine for transportation, electricity, just about everything.
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Could be Russia's next move is to hold elections in part of southeast Ukraine to connect Crimea to Russia via land. Who knows what Putin's next move is., if he knows himself.
 
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Gramps said:
Could be Russia's next move is to hold elections in part of southeast Ukraine to connect Crimea to Russia via land. Who knows what Putin's next move is., if he knows himself.
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You may be right, and meanwhile, Russian incursions will persist. The 64,000 dollar question is how long Ukraine will idly sit by and allow them to happen. Putin, as big of a dick as he is, has played his cards right so far. He knows Ukraine hasn't been willing yet. But will he overplay his hand? Taking the Crimea, while an ass move, will not necessarily set him or Russia back long term. At least I don't believe so. But if he keeps playing with Ukrainian fire in the eastern part of that country, he had best be willing to face the consequences. I don't think this ends well for the Ukraine. But, at the same time, I don't think this ends well for Putin either. At the end of the day, he's still a big fish in a small pond, despite what some may say.
 
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volprof said:
So what does "supreme" mean in Russian?
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Velo Vol said:
Depends if Putin elects to "protect" Russians elsewhere in Eastern Ukraine.

If he stops with Crimea, this may pass.
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It's a might big "if."

I'd say it depends on the international community's response to what happens in the Crimea before he makes his next move. He won't do anything until that's settled.
 
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Grand Vol said:
My point. Some posters on here somehow believe that a great Russian-German-French troika will emerge to displace the US as a world power and ignore the realities of the situation, namely the hatred between two of the three and the fact the article came from Al Jazeera.
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You do realize that Germany asked to repatriate their gold last January and were told by the US to kick rocks? Or, I shouldn't say kick rocks, but wait 7 years and we'll have it all back to you.

The Germans, if anything, are not pleased with us right now.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Depends if Putin elects to "protect" Russians elsewhere in Eastern Ukraine.

If he stops with Crimea, this may pass.
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What will the international community do in either case?

The only ones itching to escalate this thing is the US. I don't think you will get much of a coalition on diddly squat. Great Britain and France are very weak hands in all of this. Germany is a coin toss if they will support anything further.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Depends if Putin elects to "protect" Russians elsewhere in Eastern Ukraine.

If he stops with Crimea, this may pass.
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But like Grand Vol was saying, how else is Crimea going to continue to get all its ****? Goods are one thing. These can be shipped in. But electricity, oil, gas, etc? This will be tough.
 
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volprof said:
You may be right, and meanwhile, Russian incursions will persist. The 64,000 dollar question is how long Ukraine will idly sit by and allow them to happen. Putin, as big of a dick as he is, has played his cards right so far. He knows Ukraine hasn't been willing yet. But will he overplay his hand? Taking the Crimea, while an ass move, will not necessarily set him or Russia back long term. At least I don't believe so. But if he keeps playing with Ukrainian fire in the eastern part of that country, he had best be willing to face the consequences. I don't think this ends well for the Ukraine. But, at the same time, I don't think this ends well for Putin either. At the end of the day, he's still a big fish in a small pond, despite what some may say.
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Explain how Crimea is any different than Guantanamo? Did you really think Putin was going to sit back and allow at least that portion of Ukraine to devolve into anarchy?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Explain how Crimea is any different than Guantanamo? Did you really think Putin was going to sit back and allow at least that portion of Ukraine to devolve into anarchy?
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I didn't know the Crimea was devolving into anarchy at any point during this crisis. Seems most of it was stirred up by Putin cronies.

Anyhow, to your post, at what point have I ever said on this forum that the US reserves a privileged spot on the international stage? We're just as big a bunch of goobers as Russia.

But, in this particular case, Russia and the Ukraine had a formal agreement recognizing Crimea as Ukrainian territory. I would need to look at it closer, but I'm thinking that Cuba and the US have a similar agreement regarding Guantanamo.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You do realize that Germany asked to repatriate their gold last January and were told by the US to kick rocks? Or, I shouldn't say kick rocks, but wait 7 years and we'll have it all back to you.

The Germans, if anything, are not pleased with us right now.
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You do realize that Germans by and large do not like Russians and trust them about as far as they could throw them?

I'm not talking about what the press puts out, but your average everyday Johann Schmidt does not like Russians. They make not be pleased with us, but they also know we aren't that bad.
 
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volprof said:
I didn't know the Crimea was devolving into anarchy at any point during this crisis. Seems most of it was stirred up by Putin cronies.

Anyhow, to your post, at what point have I ever said on this forum that the US reserves a privileged spot on the international stage? We're just as big a bunch of goobers as Russia.

But, in this particular case, Russia and the Ukraine had a formal agreement recognizing Crimea as Ukrainian territory. I would need to look at it closer, but I'm thinking that Cuba and the US have a similar agreement regarding Guantanamo.
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Cuba and the US have a leasing agreement with Gitmo that way predated Castro. The two are nothing alike.

A nifty side tangent, they haven't cashed the "rent" checks since Castro came into power.
 
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