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Burhead said:
Yeah but there has been an increased effort to wrestle away border points from the border guards the past few days and now this pops up seems to coincidental.
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That is a good point. I believe the rationale we received from the separatists was that they were trying to establish a "humanitarian corridor" so that ethnic Russian refugees could flee the Ukrainian onslaught and seek safe harbor in Russia if necessary.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqUztAX7ozw[/youtube]
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So a guy is basically embezzling billions of dollars from his fellow citizens, and you think a covert US govt. social media ploy is to blame?
 
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volprof said:
So a guy is basically embezzling billions of dollars from his fellow citizens, and you think a covert US govt. social media ploy is to blame?
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volprof said:
What tee time do you think Poroshenko and Putin arranged for next week?
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For Ukraine to survive it's going to have to maintain economic ties with Russia. Better thaw soon rather than later.

Obama and Putin also chatted for a few minutes. Probably about the same thing.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Putin: "We're going to take over the Ukraine."

Obama: "Okay, we'll give you John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Bill O'Reilly, Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin in trade."
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This sounds like a plan actually, just as long as we can also add Rush Limbaugh, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ed Shultz, Diane Feinstein, and any other gooberheads I left out.
 
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volprof said:
So a guy is basically embezzling billions of dollars from his fellow citizens, and you think a covert US govt. social media ploy is to blame?
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Let's assume that Yanukovych was doing as you suggest. What difference doe it make for the US to need to get involved in that country's affairs? Why was it our concern?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Let's assume that Yanukovych was doing as you suggest. What difference doe it make for the US to need to get involved in that country's affairs? Why was it our concern?
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That I'll give you, particularly if you're of the realist school of national statehood. This, however, is a much different concern than instigating a national coup and revolution.
 
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First additional installment of "Russian Roulette" in over a week and a half. I was beginning to get worried about those guys.

https://news.vice.com/video/russian-roulette-dispatch-46

There's some comic gold in this video, particularly the scene where the Ukrainian soldier blows snot out of his nose and Ostrovsky's commentary on it, and then the scene where Ostrovsky reads the one kid's letter to the troops on the front. Hilarious!
 
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Velo Vol said:
New Ukraine leader promises end to fighting this week

OK
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Yep, sadly it is but a joke. Putin's acolytes won't stop, and they are achieving his aims (destabilize Ukraine) without him even having to "officially" send in troops. I know the US/EU hasn't necessarily taken the best approach to this situation, but if you can't see how Russia has completely destabilized this situation and created unnecessary violence, then I can't help you. Although Russia did illegally take Crimea with "only" the lost of three lives, so I guess they're be commended for that. We certainly wouldn't want any NATO base in Sevestapol. Sigh.
 
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I can't believe I'm having to post this, but here goes:

Return of Stalingrad name only possible with national referendum ? official ? RT Russian politics

Yes, this really is a current national debate in Russia. The article states that in 2012, a national poll revealed that only 60% of Russians opposed a shift towards once again using Stalin for place names. That percentage has to have dropped at least ten percent since this current crisis, and there is the possibility now that Volgograd will once again become Stalingrad if pushed through a national referendum.

I'm probably being a bit too sensational, but there really is some very dangerous rhetoric circulating through Russia right now. I've already pointed out the current vogue of the theories of Alexander Dugin, a current Russian "neo-fascist," Eurasianist.

And Russia is potentially even more dangerous now, or will be after Putin, than it was during the Soviet days. The reason I say this is that now, since the fall of the Union, the people feel like they have suffered some great historical wrong from the West. Allow the right leader to harness that energy (and Putin has to some extent but not in any dangerous capacity yet), work some wonders of historical revisionism, and you have a real problem.

Anyhow, I think all will be well in the end. Perhaps this smoke will blow over eventually.

Edit: Picking up on this post, Dmitri Rogozin, the Russian Deputy Prime Minister, said today that Russian political parties were not patriotic enough. Right.

Also, in my finest sarcastic tone, I was pleased to see today that Iraq is becoming a veritable Syria and a terrorist training ground. That decade long venture really paid off.
 
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Velo Vol said:
https://twitter.com/Ukroblogger/status/476415004640817155/photo/1

Nuland back at the scene of the crime, orchestrating events again.
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Honestly, I don't know who does public relations for the White House, but they need to be fired. I'm not one of those conspiracy theorist types when it comes to the crisis, but given the Russian side's rhetoric, she should just stay out of there; likewise, Biden, Jr., should have never taken that Ukraine oil job.

In the words of Forrest Gump's mother though, "Stupid is as stupid does."
 
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volprof said:
Honestly, I don't know who does public relations for the White House, but they need to be fired. I'm not one of those conspiracy theorist types when it comes to the crisis, but given the Russian side's rhetoric, she should just stay out of there; likewise, Biden, Jr., should have never taken that Ukraine oil job.

In the words of Forrest Gump's mother though, "Stupid is as stupid does."
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So at the very least, you admit that it looks fishy?
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If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck...
 
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volprof said:
Honestly, I don't know who does public relations for the White House, but they need to be fired.
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She might not necessarily be the State Department face you want there, but what's the fundamental issue?

What if Kerry was there instead?
 
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