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Grand Vol said:
He's a spy, don't let him fool you. After he logs off Volnation he jumps into his Aston-Martin, grabs his PPK and rides off into the sunset with some hot chick.
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Burhead - Agent 009 is on the case. He is not as good as James Bond but much better than Maxwell Smart
 
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Grand Vol said:
You are thinking of the Su-25 as the Soviet answer to the A-10. Which was actually a bastardized copy of the Northrop YA-9 that lost in the competition with the Hog.

The Su-24 is more comparable to the F-111 although lacking the range of the Vark.
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The Su-25 looks like aviators and engineers went and just took a big dump all over the design papers. I'll take the A-10 any day. It's a shame we're phasing it out (although I think it will still be in service through the 2020s. I'm not sure if the F-35 is going to be able to compensate in that role though. I'm sure you know better than me regarding this particular topic. Do you think the F-35 will work in this role (air to ground attack and close air support)?
 
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The Kerry-Lavrov meeting has been moved up to tomorrow in Paris. Also the Russians are demanding that in the new Ukrainian constitution there is a clause prohibiting NATO membership.
 
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Grand Vol said:
This should not be a surprise. Makes it easier to stage an event down the road for a full on invasion.
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I still think an invasion is more than likely. I think the Kremlin is stalling for time in order to complete it's logistical preparations.
 
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Burhead said:
I still think an invasion is more than likely. I think the Kremlin is stalling for time in order to complete it's logistical preparations.
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That and their strategic efforts to rile up the eastern Ukrainian population sufficiently hasn't worked either.
 
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Velo Vol said:
This is the second or third time they have met. Obama and Putin have had phone conversations.

The interim Ukrainian government and Russia, not so much.
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I thought you were referring to some sort of nonexistent negotiation between Russia and Ukraine before taking Crimea.
 
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coug said:
I thought you were referring to some sort of nonexistent negotiation between Russia and Ukraine before taking Crimea.
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Which does bring up a point. Who is representing the Ukraine during these negotiations? Are they allowing the US to speak in their name?

Very circa 1938 Czechoslovakian of them if they aren't taking part in all this.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Which does bring up a point. Who is representing the Ukraine during these negotiations? Are they allowing the US to speak in their name?

Very circa 1938 Czechoslovakian of them if they aren't taking part in all this.
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Ask the Czechs how that turned out.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Which does bring up a point. Who is representing the Ukraine during these negotiations? Are they allowing the US to speak in their name?

Very circa 1938 Czechoslovakian of them if they aren't taking part in all this.
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I don't think they negotiated with anyone. They stormed in, locked things down and allowed a supposed fair vote to.
 
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Russian tanks (what looks to be T-72s) unloading in Klimovo, moving towards the Ukrainian border. These past few weeks I've watched numerous YT clips like these but I haven't really seen any of the newer Russian equipment (Ex. T-90s). I know the Ukrainian armor only fields upgraded T-64s but would the Russians really think of using the T-72 as the spearhead of an invasion force?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA04zzDjNc4#t=29[/youtube]
 
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coug said:
I turned to CNN to try and find out and all I get is updates that aren't really updates about MH370.
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I'm typically a CNN guy as opposed to Fox or MSNBC, but they have been absolutely incorrigible concerning 370. It's all they've talked about for the past week or more.
 
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Russian forces still building up on border;

@JerryPopowicz 29m

Russian army choppers at Valuyki, Belgorod Oblast near Ukrainian border.

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@JerryPopowicz 30m

Russian army field command centre at Valuyki, Belgorod Oblast near Ukrainian border. #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/B8N4Ou8wy4


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That helio looks like an Mi-26 transport type.
 
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