UGA calling out our snap count..

[Kamara4sixGBO]

I really hope this isn’t serious conversation or the people on the radio station aren’t actually using that as an excuse. That’s softer than Mullen saying A&M’s crowd was the reason they lost. It’s apparent those using that excuse have never played on the line, offense or defense. Anyone who thinks it’s “quiet” before the snap haven’t played in the trenches.

OL got embarrassed yesterday, it had nothing to do with the other team being polite, nice, and quiet.

 

[Aerie Vol]

Nobody is claiming the refs cost us the game, but I haven't know Pruitt to be a constant ref heckler. If he was over there yelling they're stimulating a count, then they were doing so. Refs are required to call that. Not only was it a bunch of penalties, now the whole O-line plays the game in doubt of what they hear. Yes, it's game changing (had a huge impact, not "we woulda won!!!11!1)

And on the grain of sucky refs, that PI call that extended a TD drive on 3rd down was straight trash. DB locked in on the ball, leaping to intercept, when a receiver not even looking buries his face into the DBs chest. It might be PI, but not on the defense. Pathetic. Again, directly impacted the score.

 

[Kamara4sixGBO]

This may be the most moronic post I've ever seen on this forum. First calling out your own defensive audibles is done every play. You don't have false starts on every play. You questioning that it even happened shows that you did not watch the game very closely. You could actually see and hear the linebacker calling out the Snap count. The fourth time he did it you could actually see his whole body move when he yelled. If you can stand it go back and watch.. if it wasn't something that was against the rules Pruitt would not have been wasting his breath. Unfortunately he has learned the difference in coaching as a coordinator for Alabama and as a head coach for Tennessee. his close-up look of resignation said it all . The refs did not care enough. When it gets called against Georgias defense when they play Alabama then you'll understand. These kinds of dirty tricks are not uncommon and usually once a penalty is called they stop. At minimum a warning is given to the players normally a captain to stop or it will be called . That's why Pruitt was trying to get the referees to act and was holding up his fingers. I agree with the poster that said this isn't the reason that Tennessee lost but those two penalties close together killed that drive. one or two plays often makes a difference in a game. It is a game of inches. The refs know the rules it's just a matter of enforcing them correctly. Ask Ark about Aub. The SEC saying that there was not an effort to recover that ball immediately is insane. The linebacker was full speed the entire time after that ball once it hit the ground and he recovered it.

Wait, you think UT defense doesn’t talk/yell/scream? You need better seats. You also think yesterday was a game of inches and one or two plays made the difference?
2nd half was the worst I’ve ever seen our OL, ever. DL wasn’t much better, Kirby said they ran into 10 man front, and still was successful. Pruitt said afterward he was pissed, that’s why, we got pushed around bc they wanted it more.

 

[Lookout VFL]

Wait, you think UT defense doesn’t talk/yell/scream? You need better seats. You also think yesterday was a game of inches and one or two plays made the difference?
2nd half was the worst I’ve ever seen our OL, ever. DL wasn’t much better, Kirby said they ran into 10 man front, and still was successful. Pruitt said afterward he was pissed, that’s why, we got pushed around bc they wanted it more.

What part of "These kinds of dirty tricks are not uncommon and usually once a penalty is called they stop.' And "it isnt the reason for the loss" did you not read. Of course Tennessee yells and screams but simulating a snap and changing plays or coverages is two different things. are you telling me that football is not a game of inches? Are you telling me that one bad call can't change momentum?

 

[allvol123]

UGA is good enuf to not have to resort to the dirty tactics they often use.. Makes it even more pathetic.

They got one of their notorious chop blocks in. SOP.

 

[Kamara4sixGBO]

What part of "These kinds of dirty tricks are not uncommon and usually once a penalty is called they stop.' And "it isnt the reason for the loss" did you not read. Of course Tennessee yells and screams but simulating a snap and changing plays or coverages is two different things. are you telling me that football is not a game of inches? Are you telling me that one bad call can't change momentum?

I’m telling you we got whipped, stop with the petty excuses.

 

[Aerie Vol]

I’m telling you we got whipped, stop with the petty excuses.

Strawman argument. No one here made an "excuse". We have pointed out some less than fair situations from the game. Feel free to comment on them or continue falsely accusing those fans who want to discuss the intricacies of yesterday's game.

 

[JoAllan]

adjustments.......their just too hard to come by I guess.

 

[m1al]

They got one of their notorious chop blocks in. SOP.

Never have a been a fan of the ejection on the first targeting call, but if they are going to do that, then chop blocks, generally being intentional, are definitely ejection worthy.

 

[VolArmy74]

Don't know if it happened or not, but it is a penalty. In the NFL it's a 15 yarder for unsportsmanlike conduct. In the NCAA it's a 5 yard delay of game penalty.

And honestly it's questionable that they are allowed to shift like they were. This is from a recent NCAA memo sent to schools about it.

Rule 7-1-5-a-4 states that a player aligned in a stationary position within one yard of the line of scrimmage may not make quick, abrupt or exaggerated actions that are not part of normal defensive player movement. The intent of this rule is to prevent Defensive team players from making these type exaggerated actions near the line of scrimmage in an obvious attempt to create a false start by the Offense. Currently, the requirement is that the Defender be aligned in a stationary position within one yard of the line of scrimmage. We are now seeing action where defenders from the second level are running toward the line of scrimmage and making these same type exaggerated actions to cause a false start. Based on the spirit of the current rule, this also is a foul.

 

[VolArmy74]

This is also a rule about what the defense can say.

5. No player shall use words or signals that disconcert opponents when they are preparing to put the ball in play. No player may call defensive signals that simulate the sound or cadence of, or otherwise interfere with, offensive starting signals.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I think the bigger problem here is the familiarity between the coaches. They each know the other very well. This one falls on the coach to implement something different so the other team can't figure it out. I have no doubt that at a minimum Georgia knew when the ball was going to be snapped and was able to get a better jump than even their normal jump. I also think their were some funny business happening base on CJPs sideline conversation with the refs.

Our OC was their OC. Our offense was their Offense.

 

[Vol8188]

Did not think the defense could all out signals. At least not so close or trying to do it as the offense starts the play.

They can call their on signals, but can not replicate the snap count. So they can’t say things like “set”, “hike”, “hut”, “go”, etc. but they can still make their own calls like “move” is a common word or just “check”. Those are all fair game. Some of it is in the ways it’s said too. Like if you walk up to the center start lunging at him and saying “go, go, go” that’s obviously illegal. Or even if you used a word like “move”, if it’s an evident attempt to mimic the snap count it’s illegal.

 

[Lookout VFL]

I’m telling you we got whipped, stop with the petty excuses.

Excuses for what? I was explaining to someone who obviously has never played football and doesn't know the difference between Georgia changing their calls and simulating a snap count. There was no doubt that they were simulating it. you could see and hear it . The poster was claiming it didn't happen. did the o-line look bad? Yeah. Could JG have made some checks to help them? Yeah. I don't post much on here and this is a good reason why. I could write a hundred post on JG and how inadequate he is and get a million likes. Or I could post when needed to explain what was happening in a game.

 

[VolArmy74]

They can call their on signals, but can not replicate the snap count. So they can’t say things like “set”, “hike”, “hut”, “go”, etc. but they can still make their own calls like “move” is a common word or just “check”. Those are all fair game. Some of it is in the ways it’s said too. Like if you walk up to the center start lunging at him and saying “go, go, go” that’s obviously illegal. Or even if you used a word like “move”, if it’s an evident attempt to mimic the snap count it’s illegal.

You're technically not allowed to be yelling anything while the QB is giving his verbal cadence if what you say interferes with their ability to have the center clearly hear it. If the QB is in a shotgun and a lineman or linebacker close to the line is yelling anything period, it can be reasonably assumed he is interfering with this process and it should, by rule, be a penalty. That's why a large majority of teams have a safety that calls defensive signals.

 

[Rocky Top Raby]

Why the hell is it illegal for the defense to pick up on what we are doing?

 

[Rickyvol77]

I really hope this isn’t serious conversation or the people on the radio station aren’t actually using that as an excuse. That’s softer than Mullen saying A&M’s crowd was the reason they lost. It’s apparent those using that excuse have never played on the line, offense or defense. Anyone who thinks it’s “quiet” before the snap haven’t played in the trenches.

OL got embarrassed yesterday, it had nothing to do with the other team being polite, nice, and quiet.

Straw man much? No one is saying that it cost us a win. But it’s reasonable to say that it happened 4 times on critical drives which pushed back into 2nd and 3rd and long and was against the rules and shouldve been called

And I agree that when UGa plays Bama it will magically be called if they do it

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

They were shifting and probably calling out the count at the same time.

Someone explain the details on how they would call out a snap count. I’m not familiar with it and curious how they do it.
A hypothetical example would be helpful.

 

[Kamara4sixGBO]

Straw man much? No one is saying that it cost us a win. But it’s reasonable to say that it happened 4 times on critical drives which pushed back into 2nd and 3rd and long and was against the rules and shouldve been called

And I agree that when UGa plays Bama it will magically be called if they do it

If we are being honest, it will be called in the Bama game whether it is real or not. Did you not notice the calls last year after the game started getting tight? Same thing happened last vs Ole Miss. Like them or hate them, Bama is the cash cow of the SEC. If we can make it close again, we will have to beat Bama and the refs.

For any that doesn’t believe that is true, it IS true that Alabama went an entire season without being called for offensive holding. An entire season, whereas the norm per game is almost 2 per game, per team. Let that sink in. Some of the calls last night were blatant, just like they were last year on us.

 

[JacketVol]

Don't know if it happened or not, but it is a penalty. In the NFL it's a 15 yarder for unsportsmanlike conduct. In the NCAA it's a 5 yard delay of game penalty.

And honestly it's questionable that they are allowed to shift like they were. This is from a recent NCAA memo sent to schools about it.

Later for exact rule for stupid pup fans

 

[GAVol]

Someone explain the details on how they would call out a snap count. I’m not familiar with it and curious how they do it.
A hypothetical example would be helpful.

It's as simple as it sounds. The guys on the the outside aren't necessarily looking at the ball, so they hear a sound and the DE twitches a little or shifts trying to get an OT or TE to get antsy and jump.

 

[Vol8188]

Why the hell is it illegal for the defense to pick up on what we are doing?

It’s not. It’s only illegal for them to simulate what we are doing. So if we are going on the word “hut” they can’t legally run up and yell “hut”

 

[DazzleVol]

Someone explain the details on how they would call out a snap count. I’m not familiar with it and curious how they do it.
A hypothetical example would be helpful.

Offense qb .. has a sequence .. example down set hut hut (for on 2) as he says down a Dlineman yells gut gut! as a defensive call ... this is an illegal call due to simulating the count

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

It's as simple as it sounds. The guys on the the outside aren't necessarily looking at the ball, so they hear a sound and the DE twitches a little or shifts trying to get an OT or TE to get antsy and jump.

Thanks, I thought maybe it was more complex over time than what it actually is. I know I have seen penalties in the NFL for simulating the count.

 

[MiramarVol]

Let's see how it affects Bama......