Tyndall's analysis of first skills sessions

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Stoked said:
I'm really excited because we really don't know what we have. Whether it's good or bad we won't know until the season gets going. Makes it very suspenseful.
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Exactly could be top 5 sec or bottom 5 it all depends on getting a quick start,playin butler should help
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bleedingTNorange said:
I might get bashed for this, but I'm not very optimistic Mostella will be here 4 years, even 3 would be somewhat surprising and that's if he gets cleared.

Just looking at his track record of high schools, prep schools and colleges the kid has trouble staying at one spot long enough to unpack.
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None of that looks like that big of a warning sign to me.....most of it seems grade related....Why did he transfer high schools?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I might get bashed for this, but I'm not very optimistic Mostella will be here 4 years, even 3 would be somewhat surprising and that's if he gets cleared.

Just looking at his track record of high schools, prep schools and colleges the kid has trouble staying at one spot long enough to unpack.
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That can be a troubling sign, but I'd like to see a study of the top 100 kids in the last five years and see (a) how many finish at the same school where they started and (b) how many transfer two or more times. It's almost SOP to transfer at least once and twice isn't unusual. Another reason the Clearinghouse can take a while, collecting all those transcripts.
 
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germanicus said:
That can be a troubling sign, but I'd like to see a study of the top 100 kids in the last five years and see (a) how many finish at the same school where they started and (b) how many transfer two or more times. It's almost SOP to transfer at least once and twice isn't unusual. Another reason the Clearinghouse can take a while, collecting all those transcripts.
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1 or 2 times sure, think this kid had been to more than 2 schools in the past 5 years though.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Has no basketball player ever left Tennessee because of grades?
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Yes but he will be more structured here and have more help to make sure he stays qualified which does not guarantee he will do it. I just thought u meant that their was something more in his history that looked troubling.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Yes but he will be more structured here and have more help to make sure he stays qualified which does not guarantee he will do it. I just thought u meant that their was something more in his history that looked troubling.
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No, not at all. Bouncing around from school to school and not being able to get cleared by the NCAA more than once is troubling enough for me.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Thought he just switched high schools once and that was out of state.....I wondered if it was bc he moved or went to live with family.
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Not sure, thought he was at atleast 2 or 3 different high schools, plus signed Okie State, then a prep school, then commit to Pitt, and now enrolled at Tennessee.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Not sure, thought he was at atleast 2 or 3 different high schools, plus signed Okie State, then a prep school, then commit to Pitt, and now enrolled at Tennessee.
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No if the story I read was correct then he went to a high school in Alabama for the first three yrs and then transferred for his senior yr in Alabama.....He then went to prep school instead of Juco and took some online classes to qualify( which I feel is the scary part).....most of the college commits and decommits had to do with him not being able to qualify and his coach leaving Pitt.....His history does not scare me at all if he is able to make that low C average in college. LOL
 
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volbeast33 said:
No if the story I read was correct then he went to a high school in Alabama for the first three yrs and then transferred for his senior yr in Alabama.....He then went to prep school instead of Juco and took some online classes to qualify( which I feel is the scary part).....most of the college commits and decommits had to do with him not being able to qualify and his coach leaving Pitt.....His history does not scare me at all if he is able to make that low C average in college. LOL
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My confidence in him keeping a C average isn't very much considering he hasn't been able to qualify to get into college in over a year.

That jmo, you don't like it that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. There's a reason though schools weren't knocking down the door for this kid, and it's not because he was lacking talent.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
My confidence in him keeping a C average isn't very much considering he hasn't been able to qualify to get into college in over a year.
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Its not that big of a warning side anymore. Alot of times kids dont put the importance of education early in their high school careers. Its really hard to make it up well into your junior and senior yrs. Look at Gerald Williams at Tennessee and almost every Juco that we have had on campus is bc they didnt care enough in high school.
 
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#39
I sure hope what Tyndall said about Baulkman winds up in the stats. We sure could use a guy who can come off the bench cold and hit a three or two in a pinch.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Its not that big of a warning side anymore. Alot of times kids dont put the importance of education early in their high school careers. Its really hard to make it up well into your junior and senior yrs. Look at Gerald Williams at Tennessee and almost every Juco that we have had on campus is bc they didnt care enough in high school.
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And how many of those JUCOs signed somewhere else and weren't cleared? Then committed somewhere else and still weren't cleared?

Like I said, it's jmo you don't have to agree, but there's a reason schools weren't knocking down his door a month ago.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
No mention of Pops working out, seems pretty clear what's going on there.

Baulkman and Punter's names have been thrown around quite a bit early on as guys who have impressed, that's good news.

Really wish they would hurry up and clear McKnight, that one dragging out would hurt more than Mostella IMO.
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Didn't mention Chiles or McGhee either. No impressions made on CDT? Well.... it is just the first session.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No if the story I read was correct then he went to a high school in Alabama for the first three yrs and then transferred for his senior yr in Alabama.....He then went to prep school instead of Juco and took some online classes to qualify( which I feel is the scary part).....most of the college commits and decommits had to do with him not being able to qualify and his coach leaving Pitt.....His history does not scare me at all if he is able to make that low C average in college. LOL
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The story you read is incorrect. Mostella attended La Lumiere in Indiana his senior year. LaLu is Indiana's version of Oak Hill Academy, or IMG Academy. Players go to LaLu to focus on basketball and getting their transcripts and test scores in order to play college basketball. If a year at LaLu and a year at prep school, which also specializes in getting kids eligible, doesn't have his stuff in order, it is troubling.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
The story you read is incorrect. Mostella attended La Lumiere in Indiana his senior year. LaLu is Indiana's version of Oak Hill Academy, or IMG Academy. Players go to LaLu to focus on basketball and getting their transcripts and test scores in order to play college basketball. If a year at LaLu and a year at prep school, which also specializes in getting kids eligible, doesn't have his stuff in order, it is troubling.
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That actually makes me feel better about him.....he wasnt just jumping around high schools......sounds like he screwed around really bad his first three yrs and is trying to make it up by going to Lalumiere and then to the prep school. The part that worries me is the fact some of his makeup work is online classes(NCAA may not allow) but if he is working this hard to get cleared I feel once he makes it here then he will be alright. Im more worried about him getting cleared then staying in school.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And how many of those JUCOs signed somewhere else and weren't cleared? Then committed somewhere else and still weren't cleared?

Like I said, it's jmo you don't have to agree, but there's a reason schools weren't knocking down his door a month ago.
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not as common on the basketball side of things but plenty of guys sign with a school in football and go juco. He committed to OK State and I feel that he wouldnt be cleared to play so they let him out of his LOI and he committed to Pitt where was officially not cleared to play and went to prep school instead of Juco.

They didnt pursue him bc he was borderline getting in....If it was obvious he was in a bunch of schools would have been after him.
 
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volakil said:
Didn't mention Chiles or McGhee either. No impressions made on CDT? Well.... it is just the first session.
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This is what I was referring to...

The group included returning players Josh Richardson, Armani Moore, Robert Hubbs and Derek Reese along with six of the eight players Tyndall and his assistants signed during their first month on the job. Post players Tariq Owens, a 6-10 freshman, and Eric McKnight, a 6-9 graduate transfer, will join the team in the Summer Two session.
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Everyone is mentioned as participants in workouts EXCEPT for Pops, Owens and McKnight. The last 2 are both clarified to not be here and joining in Summer Session 2, what's the clarification on Pops?
 
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volbeast33 said:
not as common on the basketball side of things but plenty of guys sign with a school in football and go juco. He committed to OK State and I feel that he wouldnt be cleared to play so they let him out of his LOI and he committed to Pitt where was officially not cleared to play and went to prep school instead of Juco.

They didnt pursue him bc he was borderline getting in....If it was obvious he was in a bunch of schools would have been after him.
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And what's the reason a bunch weren't if there's a really good chance he gets in and is year 3 or 4 years?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And what's the reason a bunch weren't if there's a really good chance he gets in and is year 3 or 4 years?
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I think he got lost in the mix a little bc most thought he wouldnt get in. I still have my doubts bc it appears it has to do with online classes and even thought UT accepts them their is a good chance the NCAA balks at them.
 
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volbeast33 said:
not as common on the basketball side of things but plenty of guys sign with a school in football and go juco. He committed to OK State and I feel that he wouldnt be cleared to play so they let him out of his LOI and he committed to Pitt where was officially not cleared to play and went to prep school instead of Juco.

They didnt pursue him bc he was borderline getting in....If it was obvious he was in a bunch of schools would have been after him.
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He actually committed to OK State out of high school, but didn't qualify. He went to prep school for a year, and then backed out on OK. State (or Ok. State backed out on him because they are getting hammered for academic issues right now) for Pitt. Pitt didn't think they could get him in either, so they dropped him. U.T. has nothing to lose and everything to gain by rolling the dice on Mostella. If he doesn't have everything in order after 2 years of prep school, he has some issues.
 
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