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[volomon]

Didn't we do this thread yesterday.

if it wasn't yesterday, then it was this am.

 

[Escape Goat]

What about The Swamp

What about common wealth "stadium"?

 

[DynamiteMcGhee]

And you think that Dooley can out-coach Chip Kelly??? If you say yes, you are a complete moron!!!

Uhhhh, he didn't say that at all.

I also believe that a stable Dooley led team would be more successful than Strong with a new offense and or defense.

^ That. I'd rather have Dooley take a stable program and our already instilled and practiced systems into Autzen and lose like that rather than go in there with a new staff and look totally lost because we're still learning exactly what the hell is going on. I never said Kelly was getting out coached by anyone, I just don't believe a brand new staff with brand new ways of doing things sounds like a very safe bet when going up against someone like the ducks.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

^ That. I'd rather have Dooley take a stable program and our already instilled and practiced systems into Autzen and lose like that rather than go in there with a new staff and look totally lost because we're still learning exactly what the hell is going on. I never said Kelly was getting out coached by anyone, I just don't believe a brand new staff with brand new ways of doing things sounds like a very safe bet when going up against someone like the ducks.

Oh yeah, I like our chances in Autzen. Last time Dooley took our kids into battle with Oregon we were only beat by 35 in Neyland. At their place, I would think keeping it within 42 should be possible. Dooley? You have got to be kidding me.

 

[Coug]

I noticed there are only a couple OC/DC making over 1 million. We are currently paying our OC around 600, and our DC 800. Obviously, there would be much better choices out there.

Those numbers clearly need to be swapped. The DC doesn't deserve 800, in fact he should be gone.

 

[Col_Cathcart]

Those numbers clearly need to be swapped. The DC doesn't deserve 800, in fact he should be gone.

I really think you need to check the number of games he's coordinated. You'd have to be mentally unstable to fire a new defensive coordinator 6 games into installing a completely new system.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Those numbers clearly need to be swapped. The DC doesn't deserve 800, in fact he should be gone.

Honestly I was a bit surprised when I saw how much Sal was making. Very few DC's in all of college football make more than he does. Seems like a huge amount to pay a guy who had never been a DC on the big stage. Kirby Smart at Bama only makes 950. Chavis only makes 900. Seems like a proven guy would of made alot more snese than rolling the dice on an unproven for top money.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I really think you need to check the number of games he's coordinated. You'd have to be mentally unstable to fire a new defensive coordinator 6 games into installing a completely new system.

I don't think a person would be unstable at all to question why our NFL talent can't tackle, line up right, or make plays in ANY defensive set. When they are in the 4-3, they still screw up all over the field. It's not just the 3-4. It's the coaching of the defense as a whole.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

I wouldn't. Just because he can win in the Big East (the weakest of the BCS conferences) doesn't mean he can waltz an SEC team into Eugene with two games under his belt and hang with one of the nation's top teams. Winning that Oregon game next year is going to be a very, very tall task regardless of coach. I'm not so sure a new guy is going to have the kind of instant success everyone wants. If Tennessee does go that route after this year and the new guy wins right off the bat, that's great. I would love to be proven wrong. However, it would take a miracle for anyone to go into Autzen in their third game as HC at Tennessee and compete for more than a half.

I'll tell you one thing. Keeping a 7-5 or 6-6 Dooley will hurt recruiting. We have one stud WR (6'4" WR, Paul Harris) and are leading for another big name 6'4" WR (M. North). We also lead for 6'5" standout JUCO WR, Rumph. You have Croom who is 6'5"...now you put ALL that size (including JH and CP) on the field against a smallish group of DB's, and it's Oregon who should be scared.

Problem is with the coaching staff. Kiffin nearly beat a good UF team, in the Swamp...spanked a good UGA team and the Cocks. All with less overall talent on D. Didn't have the size or depth on the DL that we currently have. A good coach would have us undefeated going into this matchup with Bamer, and this same team...that looks like mush nationally, would be ranked in the Top 5.

One good coach makes all the difference in the world. Just ask Louisville's players...or Texas A&M's. We got the firepower to go toe to toe with Oregon. Just need the coach to lead it. Gruden, Strong, or Patterson can get it done.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

I'll tell you one thing. Keeping a 7-5 or 6-6 Dooley will hurt recruiting. We have one stud WR (6'4" WR, Paul Harris) and are leading for another big name 6'4" WR (M. North). We also lead for 6'5" standout JUCO WR, Rumph. You have Croom who is 6'5"...now you put ALL that size (including JH and CP) on the field against a smallish group of DB's, and it's Oregon who should be scared.

Problem is with the coaching staff. Kiffin nearly beat a good UF team, in the Swamp...spanked a good UGA team and the Cocks. All with less overall talent on D. Didn't have the size or depth on the DL that we currently have. A good coach would have us undefeated going into this matchup with Bamer, and this same team...that looks like mush nationally, would be ranked in the Top 5.

One good coach makes all the difference in the world. Just ask Louisville's players...or Texas A&M's. We got the firepower to go toe to toe with Oregon. Just need the coach to lead it. Gruden, Strong, or Patterson can get it done.

Good Post, I hate the idea of us losing out on Sumlin. I remember everyone saying he was a 1 trick pony with Keenan as his QB. His offense would never work in the SEC and he would be a bust. So much for that huh? Of course Sumlin would have never came here for 2 million like he did at A&M. Hamilton would have had to came up a little and so as it is, we get Dools. :banghead2:

 

[UTvolinBGKY]

I would have far more confidence of a Charlie Strong led team in Autzen over a Dooley led team.

Might be the most foolish comment I have ever heard on here. Would rather have Jerry Green coach the football time over Charlie Weak.

 

[Merlot]

Frankly there are 10 threads out there where one can speculate on the amount of rainbow colored poop coming out the rear end of Dooley's flock of Unicorns.

Can we just stay on topic on this thread please?

 

[UTvolinBGKY]

I'll tell you one thing. Keeping a 7-5 or 6-6 Dooley will hurt recruiting. We have one stud WR (6'4" WR, Paul Harris) and are leading for another big name 6'4" WR (M. North). We also lead for 6'5" standout JUCO WR, Rumph. You have Croom who is 6'5"...now you put ALL that size (including JH and CP) on the field against a smallish group of DB's, and it's Oregon who should be scared.

Problem is with the coaching staff. Kiffin nearly beat a good UF team, in the Swamp...spanked a good UGA team and the Cocks. All with less overall talent on D. Didn't have the size or depth on the DL that we currently have. A good coach would have us undefeated going into this matchup with Bamer, and this same team...that looks like mush nationally, would be ranked in the Top 5.

One good coach makes all the difference in the world. Just ask Louisville's players...or Texas A&M's. We got the firepower to go toe to toe with Oregon. Just need the coach to lead it. Gruden, Strong, or Patterson can get it done.

Please dont compare the UGa and SC teams from 2009 to the teams they have now.

 

[Culbreath4Heisman]

It doesn't matter who coaches Tennessee next year. We will not win at Oregon or in the swamp with Dooley or a new coach. If we fire Dooley, the new guy will be starting 1-2 and will lose atleast 2 or 3 more that year. A change will not improve the record, it will mix things up and make the climb back longer. I would like to see Dooley as coach for atleast 2 more years so there can finally be some stability. We will still be playing Kiffin recruits next season. Dooley hasn't been able to prove he can win in the SEC but he has shown he can build a team and it will be much easier for the next coach to inherit a roster full of 1 coaches players as opposed to 3 coaches.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

It doesn't matter who coaches Tennessee next year. We will not win at Oregon or in the swamp with Dooley or a new coach. If we fire Dooley, the new guy will be starting 1-2 and will lose atleast 2 or 3 more that year. A change will not improve the record, it will mix things up and make the climb back longer. I would like to see Dooley as coach for atleast 2 more years so there can finally be some stability. We will still be playing Kiffin recruits next season. Dooley hasn't been able to prove he can win in the SEC but he has shown he can build a team and it will be much easier for the next coach to inherit a roster full of 1 coaches players as opposed to 3 coaches.

Maybe you should read that statement you wrote to yourself out loud. Your willing to accept losing 12-14 months from now by holding on to Dooley so it builds stability. Do you realize how pathetic that makes UT football sound? This team was close to UF for 3 quarters. This team was close to UGA for the whole game. Miss State was a very winable game. COACHING would have made the difference in those games IMO. To go into 2013 with expectations of Dooley going 6-6 or something is just insane. "Another coach would not do any better", is just a fan who has accepted Dooley's loser mentality when it comes to football and our results. A winning coach would IMPROVE recruiting. Just willing to settle for 6-6 a year out is just a sad state of affairs. :no:

 

[VOLnMiami]

saw a Tweet that said former players from 02-08 badmouthing CDD and staff were responsible as a whole for CPF being fired. Seems to be a true statement if you think about it..

Im off the fence, I think we are so close right now. Resetting would not be good. Give CDD at least another year to stock the shelves and get this thing right. Im all VOL so whatever happens I will be rooting for Vols no matter what.

BEAT BAMA

Oh stop...Cut the head off before he completely destroys the program...He has already put us 5 years behind everybody in the SEC...We are now on level with VANDERBILT and you want to keep him around???...Damn not sure what some of you are thinking....Seriously

 

[First-A-Vol]

I don't think a person would be unstable at all to question why our NFL talent can't tackle, line up right, or make plays in ANY defensive set. When they are in the 4-3, they still screw up all over the field. It's not just the 3-4. It's the coaching of the defense as a whole.

Why did our NFL talent in the offense and line especially stink at running the ball? Experience.

We've got some decent guys on the D. If they had 3 years experience under Sal in the 3-4 right now we'd be a mighty tough team.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Why did our NFL talent in the offense and line especially stink at running the ball? Experience.

We've got some decent guys on the D. If they had 3 years experience under Sal in the 3-4 right now we'd be a mighty tough team.

Good coaches do not need 3 years to fix problems. If everytime something goes wrong at UT and we as fans just accept a 3 year rebuild job is ahead, we might as well shut down the football program. Maryland just installed the 3-4. Year 1, they give up less than 280 total yards a game. UGA ran all over us with a SO, and a true FR on their OL. They did it with 2 FR running backs. Excuses are getting old for this team. When your whole DL is Juco players, they are expected to play at a high level and compete to win from day 1. Otherwise, they should not be signed at all. If you fail with Juco players, your going into next year behind even further.

 

[TommyKnox]

saw a Tweet that said former players from 02-08 badmouthing CDD and staff were responsible as a whole for CPF being fired. Seems to be a true statement if you think about it..

Im off the fence, I think we are so close right now. Resetting would not be good. Give CDD at least another year to stock the shelves and get this thing right. Im all VOL so whatever happens I will be rooting for Vols no matter what.

BEAT BAMA

Just saw this and didn't read yesterday's thread, but??? am I reading this right? How would CDD and company have anything to do with CPF being fired? :huh: If Chewbaca lived on Endore with wookies...... well yea confused.

 

[Brentwoodvolfan]

saw a Tweet that said former players from 02-08 badmouthing CDD and staff were responsible as a whole for CPF being fired. Seems to be a true statement if you think about it..

Im off the fence, I think we are so close right now. Resetting would not be good. Give CDD at least another year to stock the shelves and get this thing right. Im all VOL so whatever happens I will be rooting for Vols no matter what.

BEAT BAMA

Seems they stole your post. But I'm with ya brother. :good!:

 

[ajvol01]

Good Post, I hate the idea of us losing out on Sumlin. I remember everyone saying he was a 1 trick pony with Keenan as his QB. His offense would never work in the SEC and he would be a bust. So much for that huh? Of course Sumlin would have never came here for 2 million like he did at A&M. Hamilton would have had to came up a little and so as it is, we get Dools. :banghead2:

Hammy screwed up in '08 as bad or worse than in '10.

Brian Kelly was the guy - he has proven it at ND

 

[orbs son]

:loco:

 

[WhiteRhino]

Yeaaa that won't help hang on to recruits at alllll...Just imagine a Gruden led team, going into Outzen next year. It would be game of the week and we would have a good chance of winning it!

 

[DeusExMachina]

Yeaaa that won't help hang on to recruits at alllll...Just imagine a Gruden led team, going into Outzen next year. It would be game of the week and we would have a good chance of winning it!

Except, of course, for the fact that GRUDEN IS (FORNICATING) GARBAGE!!! I pray every single day to the FSM that that walking talking face making pile of elephant excrement stats as far away from the University of Tennessee as humanly possible. I'd rather dig Bear (fornicating) Bryant's ROTTEN CORPSE up and put him on the sidelines than Jon (cursed by a deity) Gruden. Why can't you so-called "Grudenites" see the (male bovine excrement) that was the product under your beloved "offensive genius"?? Oh, that's right, the glow from his SERPER BERHL RIIIIIIING has you completely blinded. I will go on campaigning against Gru-bage for as long as it takes, and if Dave Hart somehow has a brain seizure and actually hires this jackass, I WILL be the one that starts the Fire Gruden thread within an hour of the announcement.

I know there's many of you that think CDD isn't the answer.....but please, I beg of you, believe me when I say that Derek Dooley is FAR AND AWAY the lesser of two evils.

 

[WhiteRhino]

Except, of course, for the fact that GRUDEN IS (FORNICATING) GARBAGE!!! I pray every single day to the FSM that that walking talking face making pile of elephant excrement stats as far away from the University of Tennessee as humanly possible. I'd rather dig Bear (fornicating) Bryant's ROTTEN CORPSE up and put him on the sidelines than Jon (cursed by a deity) Gruden. Why can't you so-called "Grudenites" see the (male bovine excrement) that was the product under your beloved "offensive genius"?? Oh, that's right, the glow from his SERPER BERHL RIIIIIIING has you completely blinded. I will go on campaigning against Gru-bage for as long as it takes, and if Dave Hart somehow has a brain seizure and actually hires this jackass, I WILL be the one that starts the Fire Gruden thread within an hour of the announcement.

I know there's many of you that think CDD isn't the answer.....but please, I beg of you, believe me when I say that Derek Dooley is FAR AND AWAY the lesser of two evils.

So, every coach that wins a Super Bowl is garbage? Why the Gruden hate? Did he steal your girlfriend or something? Fawk, dig up the Bear, he could probably outcoach Dooley as a zombie!