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#23,478
Mick said:
Finding that the trump camp had a business meeting with russians in Trump Tower or are you under the impression it was for tea and crumpets.
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wait he hasn't attacked the contention it was a collusion meeting? I'm confused. Luther says Trump isn't attacking findings - Trump has clearly attacked the contention it was a collusion meeting.

BTW - there's been no finding from the investigation that it was a collusion meeting.
 
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volinbham said:
wait he hasn't attacked the contention it was a collusion meeting? I'm confused. Luther says Trump isn't attacking findings - Trump has clearly attacked the contention it was a collusion meeting.

BTW - there's been no finding from the investigation that it was a collusion meeting.
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More of what we don't know. But you can't believe Rudy, and you can't believe Trump, unless you trust his character.. He's publicly lied about dealings with Russia, but that doesn't mean he lied to SC in his written answers.
 
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#23,481
volinbham said:
what are the investigation's findings? how can they be attacked if they are not known?
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That Trump has lied on multiple occasions, that his campaign did have contacts with Russia, that Trump did have business dealings with Russia while he was a candidate, that Manafort did have conflicts of interest, that Trump instructed little Donnie to lie, that Trump had conversations with Cohen about his testimony, that Trump lied about the payments to Stormy and the bunny, that Russia was fed campaign information, etc......
You don't need me to list all of the sources of smoke.

We will have more and more NorthDallas types.....I don't give a rip about what they find, the investigation is not legitimate.
That's the concession. I know he is guilty but I don't care, I'm going to back him regardless.
ND is on record, I guarantee there will be more. That's the whole objective of attacking the investigation itself and not the findings.
It will be all the redhatters have available.
 
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Stew Cook said:
More of what we don't know. But you can't believe Rudy, and you can't believe Trump, unless you trust his character.. He's publicly lied about dealings with Russia, but that doesn't mean he lied to SC in his written answers.
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I wasn't really commenting on guilty/not guilty - just responding to the tortured logic that Trump isn't attacking "findings from the investigation" and that means he's guilty when there haven't been "findings from the investigation" to attack.

When a supposed "finding" was mentioned (Trump tower meeting) I pointed out that Trump has indeed attacked the contention that it was a collusion meeting and that there still is no "finding" with regard to the meeting other than there was a meeting.
 
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volinbham said:
I wasn't really commenting on guilty/not guilty - just responding to the tortured logic that Trump isn't attacking "findings from the investigation" and that means he's guilty when there haven't been "findings from the investigation" to attack.

When a supposed "finding" was mentioned (Trump tower meeting) I pointed out that Trump has indeed attacked the contention that it was a collusion meeting and that there still is no "finding" with regard to the meeting other than there was a meeting.
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Nobody in the history of humanity has said "no collusion" more often, and it probably wasn't a question from Mueller. So, his denial on that is consistent.
 
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luthervol said:
That Trump has lied on multiple occasions, that his campaign did have contacts with Russia, that Trump did have business dealings with Russia while he was a candidate, that Manafort did have conflicts of interest, that Trump instructed little Donnie to lie, that Trump had conversations with Cohen about his testimony, that Trump lied about the payments to Stormy and the bunny, that Russia was fed campaign information, etc......
You don't need me to list all of the sources of smoke.
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Some of what you are listing are not findings from the investigation and Trump has pushed back on some of them.
 
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volinbham said:
I wasn't really commenting on guilty/not guilty - just responding to the tortured logic that Trump isn't attacking "findings from the investigation" and that means he's guilty when there haven't been "findings from the investigation" to attack.

When a supposed "finding" was mentioned (Trump tower meeting) I pointed out that Trump has indeed attacked the contention that it was a collusion meeting and that there still is no "finding" with regard to the meeting other than there was a meeting.
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I was speaking more to the overall right wing strategy, not just Trump's. Trump will lie about and deny every finding and then say he didn't. Take the whole business dealings portion as a synopsis.
I had no dealings.
Maybe I did, but they were just preliminary talks that ended well before the election.
Maybe there was a letter of intent but that's not illegal.
Maybe the talks did go on up until I won, so what.
I didn't talk to Cohen about his testimony.
Maybe I did talk to Cohen about his testimony, but I didn't tell him to lie.
Etc...
 
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luthervol said:
I was speaking more to the overall right wing strategy, not just Trump's. Trump will lie about and deny every finding and then say he didn't. Take the whole business dealings portion as a synopsis.
I had no dealings.
Maybe I did, but they were just preliminary talks that ended well before the election.
Maybe there was a letter of intent but that's not illegal.
Maybe the talks did go on up until I won, so what.
I didn't talk to Cohen about his testimony.
Maybe I did talk to Cohen about his testimony, but I didn't tell him to lie.
Etc...
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So now the overall right wing strategy is to lie?
 
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#23,491
volinbham said:
So now the overall right wing strategy is to lie?
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I'm not sure where you took the wrong turn, but..................
The original point was that the right wing strategy is to attack the investigation as invalid and not to attack the findings of the investigation. (whatever those findings are and will be)
 
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luthervol said:
I'm not sure where you took the wrong turn, but..................
The original point was that the right wing strategy is to attack the investigation as invalid and not to attack the findings of the investigation. (whatever those findings are and will be)
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The whole lying about Trump Tower Moscow. Something that I'm relatively sure that the FBI knew, was enough to have a closer look, at the very least. Of course we don't know what they knew then, or what they know now.
 
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#23,494
luthervol said:
I'm not sure where you took the wrong turn, but..................
The original point was that the right wing strategy is to attack the investigation as invalid and not to attack the findings of the investigation. (whatever those findings are and will be)
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There have been no findings to attack, only unsubstantiated reports.
 
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Here's my conspiracy theory: The Trump tower meeting was an FBI sting operation in order to catch members of the Trump campaign colluding with a Russian. We already know that the FBI had infiltrated the Trump campaign and spied on members of the Trump campaign.
 
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