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#23,501
hog88 said:
There have been no findings to attack, only unsubstantiated reports.
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Well let's try this approach.
I am on record as saying I will accept Mueller's findings, whatever they may be, and tip my hat to him for a job well done.
ND is on record as saying he will accept no findings, whatever they may be, because of the nature of the investigation and its' origin.
With whom do you align more closely on Mueller and his findings? Me or ND?
My contention is that more and more right wingers are going to go the direction of ND. That seems to be the strategy.
I also contend that this is the strategy because the fear of the findings being damaging to Trump continues to grow.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nah... I’m sure they were just talking about grandkids and such.
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So, the communications from the British Fat Guy and the Oligarch's Popstar wannabe son were all coordinated by the FBI, or Deep State?

I'll not completely dismiss the idea that the FBI attempted to infiltrate the whole thing at some point, but I'm not buying the premise that Trump's guys were not already knee deep in it, at that point.

Mueller knows...
 
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Stew Cook said:
So, the communications from the British Fat Guy and the Oligarch's Popstar wannabe son were all coordinated by the FBI, or Deep State?

I'll not completely dismiss the idea that the FBI attempted to infiltrate the whole thing at some point, but I'm not buying the premise that Trump's guys were not already knee deep in it, at that point.

Mueller knows...
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I have no idea but it’s a matter of record that the Russian lawyer and Simpson met for dinner on the day before and after the TT meeting. And their accounts differ. Simpson admitted the meets under oath. The Russian lawyer denied them. 🤷‍♂️
 
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volinbham said:
So now the overall right wing strategy is to lie?
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I talked about this at length in post #23,437 to this thread... If Rudy Giuliani was correct on Sunday, and Donald Trump was in negotiations with the Russian government through the 2016 Presidential election for the "Trump Tower Moscow" project, then that obviously means that Trump was lying on an almost daily basis in speeches throughout the 2016 campaign about his business dealings in Russia. There are also conflicts of interest to consider. I don't know that I would say that the strategy of the whole right wing is to lie, but it certainly is the strategy of Donald Trump to lie... and he does so with great regularity.

Also, the Trump legal team (the lawyers who actually know what they're doing) really should get Giuliani off television. He is not helping Trump's cause in the least little bit.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I have no idea but it’s a matter of record that the Russian lawyer and Simpson met for dinner on the day before and after the TT meeting. And their accounts differ. Simpson admitted the meets under oath. The Russian lawyer denied them. 🤷‍♂️
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Yep, I think that has been reported as fact.
 
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luthervol said:
Well let's try this approach.
I am on record as saying I will accept Mueller's findings, whatever they may be, and tip my hat to him for a job well done.
ND is on record as saying he will accept no findings, whatever they may be, because of the nature of the investigation and its' origin.
With whom do you align more closely on Mueller and his findings? Me or ND?
My contention is that more and more right wingers are going to go the direction of ND. That seems to be the strategy.
I also contend that this is the strategy because the fear of the findings being damaging to Trump continues to grow.
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I will accept the Muells findings if they are based in evidence.
I will not accept the Muells findings if they are based in conjecture.
 
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#23,508
hog88 said:
Because he has produced nothing in almost 2 years.
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This is a dumb and very tired refrain... using this logic, Watergate investigators hadn't produced anything either... until the Nixon Oval Office tapes were released in July of 1974 (over two years after the damn burglary).
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is a dumb and very tired refrain... using this logic, Watergate investigators hadn't produced anything either... until the Nixon Oval Office tapes were released in July of 1974 (over two years after the damn burglary).
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Watergate break-ins happened June 1972, people were on trial January 1973. By the end of January 2 people had been convicted of the crime.
 
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luthervol said:
lol.....Manafort's dealings with Russia and Ukraine were ongoing as he was Trump's campaign manager. Are you disputing that?
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Nothing to see! Unrelated! Never mind that Trump’s own son has said Trump has received significant funding from Russia in the past. Never mind that Trump melts down about this every day. Mueller, Comey, and the other Republicans are just mad a Republican won the presidency! Deep State! MAGA!
 
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tvolsfan said:
Nothing to see! Unrelated! Never mind that Trump’s own son is on record saying they have received significant funding from Russia in the past. Never mind that Trump melts down about this every day. Deep State! MAGA!
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They can't see the writing on the wall so to speak. They look at C and think that is meaningless. They look at A and think that is meaningless. They look at T and think that is meaningless and conclude that all of them together are meaningless.
 
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luthervol said:
lol.....Manafort's dealings with Russia and Ukraine were ongoing as he was Trump's campaign manager. Are you disputing that?
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So now show us the verified Trump connection to Manaforts 10 year old relationship. And show he wasn’t just influence peddling and got bounced out once they figured it out.
 
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Mick said:
They can't see the writing on the wall so to speak. They look at C and think that is meaningless. They look at A and think that is meaningless. They look at T and think that is meaningless and conclude that all of them together are meaningless.
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They are the side of Qanon and Alex Jones and apparently we are the crazy ones.
 
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