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volprof said:
In typical hog fashion, you jest, until you can't any longer.

If that was honestly 300 members of the CIA, then you and I, our families and our nation, are in a whole lot of trouble.

I wouldn't expect members of the CIA to react like that to any president, especially one who has just called them Nazis, essentially, a couple weeks ago. I would expect respectful applause to whatever he said, no matter what, basically, but I wouldn't have expected the 1980s Van Halen concert that it turned out to be.

You and I better pray to whatever gods we believe in that this was in reality just a Trump team staged act.
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Do you realize there are more CIA employees who are admin or analysts than operatives?
 
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Velo Vol said:
Anyway, I said earlier that Trump may have an isolationist posture on some fronts, but one of his many contradictions is his railing against ISIS, which could draw us into a (deeper) war in any of a dozen countries
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I'm more concerned with the possibility that he could bungle us into a war with China in the South China Sea than I'm am about his policy toward ISIS.
 
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Velo Vol said:
China doesn't want war.

ISIS wants war.
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No China doesn't want war. But if Trump pushes all the wrong button with China we could end up in a nuclear war. China takes every word that comes out of Trumps month as official U.S. policy. Trump's little stunt with Taiwan wasn't received well in Beijing. Taiwan is a non-negotiable issue to the Chinese. Also, Trump's talk of a trade war with China is not good at all. If the U.S. puts any type of tariffs on Chinese goods, China could retaliate by shutting the U.S. trade routes in the South China Sea with its Navy. The U.S. response to that is for the U.S. Navy to remove the Chinese Navy from the South China Sea. In order for the U.S. Navy to defeat the Chinses Navy, The U.S. Air Force must conduct airstrikes on Command and Control Centers, Air Bases and Naval Bases on Mainland China. Chinese military doctrine states that ANY airstrike on mainland China by the U.S. will be responded by the Chinese conducting an airstrike on the U.S. Mainland. The Chinese only have one way to strike the U.S. Mainland and that is with nuclear weapons.
 
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carlos86 said:
No China doesn't want war. But if Trump pushes all the wrong button with China we could end up in a nuclear war. China takes every word that comes out of Trumps month as official U.S. policy. Trump's little stunt with Taiwan wasn't received well in Beijing. Taiwan is a non-negotiable issue to the Chinese. Also, Trump's talk of a trade war with China is not good at all. If the U.S. puts any type of tariffs on Chinese goods, China could retaliate by shutting the U.S. trade routes in the South China Sea with its Navy. The U.S. response to that is for the U.S. Navy to remove the Chinese Navy from the South China Sea. In order for the U.S. Navy to defeat the Chinses Navy, The U.S. Air Force must conduct airstrikes on Command and Control Centers, Air Bases and Naval Bases on Mainland China. Chinese military doctrine states that ANY airstrike on mainland China by the U.S. will be responded by the Chinese conducting an airstrike on the U.S. Mainland. The Chinese only have one way to strike the U.S. Mainland and that is with nuclear weapons.
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Tell china to bring it....
 
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Velo Vol said:
Surely they aren't that dumb.

Speaking of which, this is interesting.

Trump's Comment About Chinese Government at Tiananman Square: The 'Strongman' America Needs?

Among other things, he was yapping the same stuff about American weakness in 1990.
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The Chinese do not conduct politics without there being a goal for their political activities, unlike us Americans who conduct politics for the sake of politics. My take is that they are taking the approach to Trump that they take with Russia and that is if Kremlin says it they mean it. So if Trump states it he means it. China will play a hand and Trump will play an individual card.
1990-1999 was the peak of American power on the world stage.
 
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carlos86 said:
No China doesn't want war. But if Trump pushes all the wrong button with China we could end up in a nuclear war. China takes every word that comes out of Trumps month as official U.S. policy. Trump's little stunt with Taiwan wasn't received well in Beijing. Taiwan is a non-negotiable issue to the Chinese. Also, Trump's talk of a trade war with China is not good at all. If the U.S. puts any type of tariffs on Chinese goods, China could retaliate by shutting the U.S. trade routes in the South China Sea with its Navy. The U.S. response to that is for the U.S. Navy to remove the Chinese Navy from the South China Sea. In order for the U.S. Navy to defeat the Chinses Navy, The U.S. Air Force must conduct airstrikes on Command and Control Centers, Air Bases and Naval Bases on Mainland China. Chinese military doctrine states that ANY airstrike on mainland China by the U.S. will be responded by the Chinese conducting an airstrike on the U.S. Mainland. The Chinese only have one way to strike the U.S. Mainland and that is with nuclear weapons.
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Good God. You and volprof need to grow up and hope your testicles finally drop.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Good God. You and volprof need to grow up and hope your testicles finally drop.
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Maybe one day, if Carlos and I try really hard, we can be real men, full of moral vigor, and finally exercise our votes for Dear Leader to re-elect him to a fifth term.
 
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Obsessed said:
Tell china to bring it....
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If you want a nuclear war with China, as you seem to now welcome, why didn't you vote for Hillary?

I recall you once telling me that she wanted to start a nuclear war with China and, therefore, should not get anyone's vote.

Why the 180? Is it because Dear Leader now says so?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Good God. You and volprof need to grow up and hope your testicles finally drop.
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I'm pretty sure my balls dropped after I blew up my first 40-pound cratering charge at the demo range. It's a feeling I will never forget.
 
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volprof said:
If you want a nuclear war with China, as you seem to now welcome, why didn't you vote for Hillary?

I recall you once telling me that she wanted to start a nuclear war with China and, therefore, should not get anyone's vote.

Why the 180? Is it because Dear Leader now says so?
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Because it's BS. China isn't going to mess with us.
My comment was tongue in cheek.

Hillary has already tried to give our country to China. She failed at that too.
 
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