TrumPutinGate

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volprof said:
******UPDATED REFERENCE GUIDE*******

https://wearethisamericancarnage.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/the-matryoshka/

So, two motivations for creating this thread:

1. I get asked often what my proof and/or argument is, and I can't regurgitate an entire essay in response. So, this thread can now become a nice, tidy repository of circumstantial evidence and claims concerning Trump's ties to the Kremlin.

2. Potentially the biggest story in the entire history of American presidential politics doesn't even have a specific thread here, so I will create it. It's past due.

All of you by now know how I think about Trump, unless you've been living under a rock. I think he is a traitor, and I think that, in time, if the right people do their patriotic duty, then we will know the truth.

So, let me just begin the thread by posting the following (which is in no shape or form the extent of my claims or argument):

Six agencies — including FBI, CIA, Treasury — probing possible Russian aid to Trump's campaign: sources - Chicago Tribune

Finally, let me just go ahead and add that, should the evidence come together in a certain way, this has the potential not only to take down Trump but also to take down high-ranking FBI officials (including Comey) and possible even the Republican Party. Those are big "ifs," of course, but it will all be determined by who knew what and when, and by who buried what and when.

This has the potential to completely change our entire political system. It's important, no matter how you feel on the matter right now, and it needs to be given proper treatment.
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Here is the great VP showing how he gave Trump a chance on Jan.19, 2017.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Obama was President until Jan. 20, 2017.
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He has a hard time with words, folks.

See, in '72 world, "election" means "inauguration."

He's not very bright. Has a hard time reading. Spells incorrectly even, sometimes.

Give him a break, folks. He doesn't know any better.
 
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volprof said:
The problem here is that this is a cult. Cults do not think rationally. They only care about the cult and, most importantly, the leader. The rest of the world be damned. The leader and the cult are the world, in their minds.
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I meant the ones in Congress, which for the most part are not admiring believers.
 
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It amazes me how utterly stupid some of these people are. And we have members here that eat this **** up.

These are BRANDED properties.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/special-report-russian-elite-invested-nearly-100-million-180436652.html

“While the president has denied having invested in Russia, he has said little or nothing about Russian investment in his businesses and properties in the United States or elsewhere,” said Rep. Adam Schiff, ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. “This should concern all Americans and is yet another reason why his refusal to release his tax returns should be met with considerable skepticism and concern.”
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AirVol said:
They called Obama worse. You're welcome.
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It admittedly means little to nothing, but there's no comparison in the international respect and admiration of Obama and Trump. They are viewed as polar opposites which probably makes Trump lovers happy and Trump haters sad.
 
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Velo Vol said:
An interesting question is, if irrefutable evidence emerges that MAGA was in cahoots with the Russian government before the election, how many Republicans will care and how many will be ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?
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I'm not a Republican, but I've been busting juevos on the TrumPutan thread. I will answer unequivocally. I will care, and I will care a lot.

Now with that out of the way, will you bend a bit in the other direction? After more than three months of collective coronaries... Three months of supposed shoes dropping... You just admitted that there is no concrete evidence against Trump. When will you think it time to dial it back a bit ad take a more wait-n-see approach?
 
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It appears to me that both R's and D's think it's likely Trump Towers was "wiretapped." The disagreement is on if this was reasonable.

I think you need a strong case to wiretap a nominee. So much so that you can't hide your reasons behind a FISA court.
 
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