TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
It's a waste of time & money for you. The book is a fantasy made up of lies & false fabrications to smear an unpopular President (to a minority of voters) & some will believe it's totally true & will also believe it hook line & sinker (hateful nazi left-wing loons). Book was written by an idiot that's delusional of the highest kind. If you like reading fantasy books that contain lies & untruths you'll enjoy having it in your collection.
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He was certainly granted a lot of access to top level meetings considering he is a delusional idiot.


I know that the book is only slightly less biased and a little more truthful (of the total picture) than the Nunes memo, and I'm smart enough to read it accordingly.
 
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luthervol said:
He was certainly granted a lot of access to top level meetings considering he is a delusional idiot.


I know that the book is only slightly less biased and a little more truthful (of the total picture) than the Nunes memo, and I'm smart enough to read it accordingly.
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It’s always darkest before the Don.

Get used to it!
 
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hog88 said:
I don’t blame him, from the IRS and Fast & Furious hearings we know congressional subpoenas are worthless.
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I don't think anyone would blame him if he didn't testify for them. It is a laughable investigation with no credibility.
 
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luthervol said:
He was certainly granted a lot of access to top level meetings considering he is a delusional idiot.


I know that the book is only slightly less biased and a little more truthful (of the total picture) than the Nunes memo, and I'm smart enough to read it accordingly.
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Has anyone disputed the facts of the Nunes memo?
 
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luthervol said:
He was certainly granted a lot of access to top level meetings considering he is a delusional idiot.


I know that the book is only slightly less biased and a little more truthful (of the total picture) than the Nunes memo, and I'm smart enough to read it accordingly.
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That's a good little sheep.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
It's a waste of time & money for you. The book is a fantasy made up of lies & false fabrications to smear an unpopular President (to a minority of voters) & some will believe it's totally true & will also believe it hook line & sinker (hateful nazi left-wing loons). Book was written by an idiot that's delusional of the highest kind. If you like reading fantasy books that contain lies & untruths you'll enjoy having it in your collection.
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So, a few corrections:

1. Trump is unpopular with a majority of voters.

2. Nazis are right wing not left wing nutballs.

3. If the author had outright lied himself about anything he would have been sued 10 times over by Trump already.

4. Bannon and others quoted in the book have not come out and stated that the author claims were incorrect.

5. In sum, the book appears largely accurate. Sorry you don't like it, but it reflects the total douchbag that Trump is.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
So, a few corrections:

1. Trump is unpopular with a majority of voters.

2. Nazis are right wing not left wing nutballs.

3. If the author had outright lied himself about anything he would have been sued 10 times over by Trump already.

4. Bannon and others quoted in the book have not come out and stated that the author claims were incorrect.

5. In sum, the book appears largely accurate. Sorry you don't like it, but it reflects the total douchbag that Trump is.
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Where may we find more of your insightful book reviews?
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
So, a few corrections:

1. Trump is unpopular with a majority of voters.

2. Nazis are right wing not left wing nutballs.

3. If the author had outright lied himself about anything he would have been sued 10 times over by Trump already.

4. Bannon and others quoted in the book have not come out and stated that the author claims were incorrect.

5. In sum, the book appears largely accurate. Sorry you don't like it, but it reflects the total douchbag that Trump is.
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The book paints an overall accurate picture. And it's pretty fascinating. The chapter about the day of the election (which the author was present for) is hysterical.
 
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luthervol said:
My wife bought me a copy of Fire and Fury when it came out and I'm finally getting around to reading it. Here is an excerpt from the prologue.

"But Ailes was convinced that Trump had no political beliefs or backbone. The fact that Trump had become the ultimate avatar of Fox's angry common man was another sign that we were living in an upside-down world. The joke was on somebody - and Ailes thought it might be on him."

"Trump's rise to power, Ailes understood, was the improbable triumph of many things that Ailes and Fox News represented. After all, Ailes was perhaps the person most responsible for unleashing the angry-man currents of Trump's victory; he had invented the right-wing media that delighted in the Trump character."
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The guy and the book are full of grey areas of truth and outright lies. Even cray-cray Mika kicked him off Morning Joe, as well as a couple of other liberal show host punked him out and made him look 'questionable' at best.

Mika kicks ‘Fire and Fury’ author off ‘Morning Joe’ | New York Post
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Who determined Nazis are only right-wing?
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Some people get confused because their official name includes the word socialist. In fact they were on the exact oppisite end of the spectrum.

"...The assertions or accusations listed above appear to stem from the official name of the party that Hitler led to take over Germany in the early 1930s. It was called the National Socialist German Workers’ Party—later shortened to Nazi party—and gained power by promising voters to alleviate a German economy mired in depression while also restoring “German cultural values, reverse the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles, turn back the perceived threat of a Communist uprising, put the German people back to work, and restore Germany to its 'rightful position' as a world power," according to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.

The party represented an extreme side of German’s right wing, and the key word in its title was not necessarily "socialism," but rather "national." During Hitler’s ascension, nationalism was preached and took hold, and excluded anyone who wasn’t fully German or considered superior.


"The Nazis opposed all traditional socialism, wanting to substitute something they called ‘German socialism’ or ‘Aryan socialism,’” Bryn Mawr College professor Barbara Miller Lane told PolitiFact in October 2015. “This meant citizenship and privileges only for ‘Aryans’ (meaning non-Jews), concentration camps for others."
 
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1972 Grad said:
Has anyone disputed the facts of the Nunes memo?
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They have disputed the overall premise and implication.

Nunes isn't a total moron. We will get a clearer picture when (if) Trump releases the democratic response. But it is obvious to all that the intent of the Nunes memo was to deligitamize the investigation by portraying it as the result of a biased FBI that improperly used the dossier as it's key weapon.

He cherry picked facts that supported his narrative in an attempt to cause people to reach false conclusions.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Some people get confused because their official name includes the word socialist. In fact they were on the exact oppisite end of the spectrum.

"...The assertions or accusations listed above appear to stem from the official name of the party that Hitler led to take over Germany in the early 1930s. It was called the National Socialist German Workers’ Party—later shortened to Nazi party—and gained power by promising voters to alleviate a German economy mired in depression while also restoring “German cultural values, reverse the provisions of the Treaty of Versailles, turn back the perceived threat of a Communist uprising, put the German people back to work, and restore Germany to its 'rightful position' as a world power," according to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.

The party represented an extreme side of German’s right wing, and the key word in its title was not necessarily "socialism," but rather "national." During Hitler’s ascension, nationalism was preached and took hold, and excluded anyone who wasn’t fully German or considered superior.


"The Nazis opposed all traditional socialism, wanting to substitute something they called ‘German socialism’ or ‘Aryan socialism,’” Bryn Mawr College professor Barbara Miller Lane told PolitiFact in October 2015. “This meant citizenship and privileges only for ‘Aryans’ (meaning non-Jews), concentration camps for others."
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Nazism and Socialism are to the extremes of both sides. So much so they have almost come full circle and mirror one another.
 
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Vol0725 said:
The guy and the book are full of grey areas of truth and outright lies. Even cray-cray Mika kicked him off Morning Joe, as well as a couple of other liberal show host punked him out and made him look 'questionable' at best.

Mika kicks ‘Fire and Fury’ author off ‘Morning Joe’ | New York Post
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You have to ask yourself how this kind of individual would have been so welcomed into the Trump circle. Bannon, Ailes, Trump and others seemed perfectly content with his inner circle access. (Makes you question their judgement about with whom to give access and information)
 
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luthervol said:
They have disputed the overall premise and implication.

Nunes isn't a total moron. We will get a clearer picture when (if) Trump releases the democratic response. But it is obvious to all that the intent of the Nunes memo was to deligitamize the investigation by portraying it as the result of a biased FBI that improperly used the dossier as it's key weapon.

He cherry picked facts that supported his narrative in an attempt to cause people to reach false conclusions.
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Facts aren't implications. They are facts.
 
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luthervol said:
They have disputed the overall premise and implication.

Nunes isn't a total moron. We will get a clearer picture when (if) Trump releases the democratic response. But it is obvious to all that the intent of the Nunes memo was to deligitamize the investigation by portraying it as the result of a biased FBI that improperly used the dossier as it's key weapon.

He cherry picked facts that supported his narrative in an attempt to cause people to reach false conclusions.
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No one has disputed the fact that the dossier was used to justify a FISA warrant.

The dossier was a phony political opposition research piece designed to make Trump look bad.

What false conclusion are we supposed to reach?

They illegally spied on the Trump campaign/transition team before and after he was president-elect.
 
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