n_huffhines
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Good thing we're "putting Americans first" and "they need us more than we need them".
so then why are you rejecting that Ford's layoffs COULD be something else besides tariffs? thats the objectivity I am holding. especially since alternate explanations have been offered. you are the own that keeps hammering tariffs tariffs tariffs.Nobody is arguing that, but nice strawman. Your objectivity is manifesting itself in unobjective ways.
so then why are you rejecting that Ford's layoffs COULD be something else besides tariffs? thats the objectivity I am holding. especially since alternate explanations have been offered. you are the own that keeps hammering tariffs tariffs tariffs.
Typical and predictable. Protectionism is supposed to be about jobs. When it backfires, you blame the employer who was fine before the protectionism.
Free traders told you this would happen but you didn't listen. Saying Ford isn't run perfectly is not a saving grace. Every corporation has problems to deal with (of their own making) and any time a company struggles with protectionism, we can point to problems they made for themselves. OK. That doesn't change the fact that jobs that otherwise would exist are now gone because of Trump.
Let's be objective here, have we tried to blame everything else yet?
doesn't this also work for us? can't we also ship things to other countries using this rule?Trump draws fresh battle lines with China by withdrawing from shipping treaty
President Trump's administration formally initiated withdrawal proceedings from an international shipping agreement that it feels gives China and others an unfair advantage.
Two senior administration officials told reporters Wednesday that the State Department initiated the withdrawal process from the Universal Postal Union, a sub-agency of the United Nations that organizes postal service policies across member countries. On the domestic front, the Trump administration is going to begin the process of self-declaring postal rates.
Manufacturers have long complained that the UPU's rules allow packages of up to 4.4 lbs to be shipped from certain countries at the same rate for flat mail and this has allowed foreign companies to undercut U.S. competitors. Among the countries that get this preferred rate is China, a policy set up in 1969 when its economy was still developing. White House officials estimated that this rate has amounted to a $300 million annual subsidy.
The administration is solely focused on packages under 4.4 lbs, which both administration officials noted can cost 40-70 percent more to ship domestically than abroad.
"It costs less to ship a package from New York City to Beijing than it does from San Francisco to New York," one administration official said, adding that the U.S. loses some $300 million annually because of higher domestic shipping rates.
Trump draws fresh battle lines with China by withdrawing from shipping treaty
our steel was more expensive than everyone else's anyway before the tariffs. there is a reason people were shipping in steel from China and elsewhere.When you use protectionist tactics, like tariffs, to reduce competition, that's what happens. But, hey, we're America. They need us more than we need them, so they'll come around. Short term pain for long term gain. Etc., etc.
And the answer is to make it even more expensive? You know, of course, that US suppliers have used the tariffs as an excuse to jack up their own prices. It's not improving competition. It's taxing the American consumer for the benefit of certain US companies.our steel was more expensive than everyone else's anyway before the tariffs. there is a reason people were shipping in steel from China and elsewhere.