Troops "on" the Mexican border

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I am unclear on this. Is the proposal to put troops (National Guard or otherwise) on the US side or the Mexican side, or both? Does anybody know what the plan is?
 
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"Good fences, make good neighbors"

My former boss (land surveyor) famous quote.

Just come to mind.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I am unclear on this. Is the proposal to put troops (National Guard or otherwise) on the US side or the Mexican side, or both? Does anybody know what the plan is?
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Just remember before you forget if you need to be outraged or not your boy Obama has also done this.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I am unclear on this. Is the proposal to put troops (National Guard or otherwise) on the US side or the Mexican side, or both? Does anybody know what the plan is?
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You really did not think about that did you? How unthoughtful can someone who claims to be a lawyer appear.

NG along the border will help stop illegals and from entering. Once the word spreads south, many from countries below Mexico will stop even trying that route. There are other benefits that go along with the deployment, should it actually occur.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
You really did not think about that did you? How unthoughtful can someone who claims to be a lawyer appear.

NG along the border will help stop illegals and from entering. Once the word spreads south, many from countries below Mexico will stop even trying that route. There are other benefits that go along with the deployment, should it actually occur.
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Is this deployment to the WHOLE border? I mean, if word is spreading, won't they talk about where not to try to cross?
 
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Pretty sure our troops have been ordered to fire for effect at any Mexican or Central American within 50 feet of the border.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Pretty sure our troops have been ordered to fire for effect at any Mexican or Central American within 50 feet of the border.
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I highly doubt this.

Most likely scenario:

The ROE will be even more restrictive than it was in Iraq post-summer 2009.

These troops will have merely an observe and report function; they will have strict orders against initiating any contact, and the restrictions will likely even include restrictions against even talking to or yelling at the immigrants that are crossing.

The only interactions between these troops and those crossing will be with a border agent and at his lead.

That is, we will be asking these guardsmen to sit in the sun and simply call up reports. They will sham.

Moreover, I imagine each rotation for these units will be brief. As such, there will be no learning on the ground and no institutional knowledge will be gained and passed forward.

This has the signs of a massive money waste written all over it. But, the optics Trump gets are that he's doing something about the border.
 
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therealUT said:
I highly doubt this.

Most likely scenario:

The ROE will be even more restrictive than it was in Iraq post-summer 2009.

These troops will have merely an observe and report function; they will have strict orders against initiating any contact, and the restrictions will likely even include restrictions against even talking to or yelling at the immigrants that are crossing.

The only interactions between these troops and those crossing will be with a border agent and at his lead.

That is, we will be asking these guardsmen to sit in the sun and simply call up reports. They will sham.

Moreover, I imagine each rotation for these units will be brief. As such, there will be no learning on the ground and no institutional knowledge will be gained and passed forward.

This has the signs of a massive money waste written all over it. But, the optics Trump gets are that he's doing something about the border.
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It was a joke to make LG wring his hands.
 
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therealUT said:
This has the signs of a massive money waste written all over it. But, the optics Trump gets are that he's doing something about the border.
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If the ROE are such they have no authority to engage, detain, and handoff to CBP to return them across the border you’ll get no argument from me.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
If the ROE are such they have no authority to engage, detain, and handoff to CBP to return them across the border you’ll get no argument from me.
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They shouldn’t have and I hope they don’t have authority to do any of the above. Soldiers are not police.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Why are they trying to come here? Don’t they know what a racist and terrible country this is?
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Most of them know they can get work and get paid. That overrides any apprehension as to the racism in this country. The only people who say this country is terrible are people like you trying to spin a narrative to fit your beliefs
 
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hog88 said:
They shouldn’t have and I hope they don’t have authority to do any of the above. Soldiers are not police.
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They are being tasked to do just that. Be policemen. As I stated earlier I hate using regular combat troops as police. Things can escalate quickly. But if you’re going to put them there then give them some authority.

Every time something like this comes up I think back to the Marines in Beirut. Put them there as a show, keep them bunched up in one location since they didn’t have any specific job, botch the perimeter protection, then load 240+ body bags to bring them home in. God that pissed me off.
 
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114VOL said:
Most of them know they can get work and get paid. That overrides any apprehension as to the racism in this country. The only people who say this country is terrible are people like you trying to spin a narrative to fit your beliefs
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Not one single one of you lefties portrays America as a terrible, racist place????

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We observe tums in his natural habitat, proclaiming victory by his lonesome and acting as though life is hard for a bootlick.
 
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114VOL said:
Most of them know they can get work and get paid. That overrides any apprehension as to the racism in this country. The only people who say this country is terrible are people like you trying to spin a narrative to fit your beliefs
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You couldn't have taken that bait any harder.
 
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