Trey Smith's prognosis?

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sameolvol said:
'Hate to hear that, Butchna, and so sorry for your loss. You are correct on all counts. How do I know? I'm in stage 4 of CHF and in the transplant program at Duke University Hospital. My first PE was in '99. I literally died and was pronounced on a Life Flight copter in Austin before being shocked back and fighting for my life for several more hours. Since then, although on blood thinners (Warfarin for years...now Xarelto) I've managed to survive numerous DVTs and...truly and miraculously...survived multiple PEs in '13. I've literally flat-lined three times in total. Docs don't like to tell all their patients who're in this situation this, but recurrent clots are caused by more than just some propensity for having thin blood. A condition called antophospholipidautoimmune disorder (say that one fast three times) is usually at least part of the problem. I've had to restrict my activities somewhat and contact sports-like activities just aren't attempted. I ride my tried and true horses, but no more rock 'n rollin' on the bad boys. It sucks but just like any other avocations, football doesn't have to be the center of the universe. Sorry Trey. Life is long and you need to make the proper adjustments and keep living. Innovate, my good man, and turn this lemon into lemonade. God bless!
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No to discount the seriousness of your post, but I wanted to draw attention to the awesome contraction that you used.. WHO'RE. Im assuming that is who are.
 
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Life can be so unfair at times. I hope for three things regarding Trey. That he has a long life. That UT allows his scholarship to stand so he gets a degree. That he then finds gainful employment in a career he loves.
 
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Some very good and some very sad information about clotting in this thread. Still, until we see a posting similar to the one about Tanner Antonutti, I can't help but think there still might be hope of some kind of cure or control. Either way, stay positive Trey and all the best to you.

OL Tanner Antonutti takes medical retirement
 
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volgrad500 said:
Sorry to hear that.
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Thanks. It’s a manageable situation. My late wife had it under control but that genetic predisposition also made her more susceptible to cancer. Two years after her death, her sister (who also has that factor) developed breast cancer and it also mestasticized in other organs after remission. She never has had blood clots tho.
 
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VolunteerBeard said:
Does anyone have any insight as to what’s going on with Trey? Will he be back? Or will it be another medical retirement from the OL?
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I will be shocked if he's on the field next year and honestly if he is, he won't be 100%. I've been fortunate enough to come back from clots in my lungs once and they do so much damage that it's hard to ever feel like you're at 100%, let alone physically be 100%. Trey should focus on Trey and put football on the back burner. I would love to see him take the field next year but will be shocked.
 
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I'm a little surprised to see the continuing call by people not claiming to be MDs, not claiming expertise in treating blood clots, totally unfamiliar with Trey's personal health chart to decide for him and the general public what his future is. Medical advancements continue, what occurred back then may not apply now, Trey's clots may be entirely different than your own if you're one claiming blood clots. A reminder we had a similar squad of VN troops which showed up last year just like now announcing Trey would never play again ... ... ... only to see him take the field and play again. My ask is a little respect, do not make speculations about Trey's health or future. If and when he decides to divulge his future plans simply support him, just stop the nonsense about how it is going to go unless Trey has told you himself.
 
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Remy said:
I'm a little surprised to see the continuing call by people not claiming to be MDs, not claiming expertise in treating blood clots, totally unfamiliar with Trey's personal health chart to decide for him and the general public what his future is. Medical advancements continue, what occurred back then may not apply now, Trey's clots may be entirely different than your own if you're one claiming blood clots. A reminder we had a similar squad of VN troops which showed up last year just like now announcing Trey would never play again ... ... ... only to see him take the field and play again. My ask is a little respect, do not make speculations about Trey's health or future. If and when he decides to divulge his future plans simply support him, just stop the nonsense about how it is going to go unless Trey has told you himself.
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Settle down, Francis. It's just a bunch of fans speculating and most offering well wishes.
 
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VolunteerBeard said:
Does anyone have any insight as to what’s going on with Trey? Will he be back? Or will it be another medical retirement from the OL?
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You're talking about a players life or death situation. Does football really mean that much to you that you have to know his medical situation? Not cool dude.
 
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Batman1948 said:
You're talking about a players life or death situation. Does football really mean that much to you that you have to know his medical situation? Not cool dude.
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What are you bent out of shape about? The OP asked a simple question regarding a highly respected UT football player on a UT message board.. That is pretty standard. He didnt demand to know, he simply asked if anyone had any insight. What exactly is not cool about wanting to know how a well respected player is doing or if he may return?
 
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I just speak from my experience with clots, and know all cases are different. It really depends on what is causing the issue. Deep Vein Thrombosis in the extremities (usually legs) breaking off, peripheral artery disease, family history, and obesity are all causes. Its a scary issue, and I hope he puts trey first! Depending on the cause, he "could" play again. I've went through the process myself, fixed the underlying issue, and was able to return to the field. I hope the same for him.
 
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IndianaVol said:
Would definitely like to see Trey go into coaching...kid has a natural football instinct that I think would translate well into coaching.
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Coaching could be great or not so great. I had a coach tell me one time that instinct is something a player has or does not have. They have a hard time not understanding why others can't do what they do instinctually. Therefore, don't know how to teach it because they don't know how they do it, they just do.

We have all heard he has a "nose" for the ball. I was a Linebacker and heard that a lot. I was taught to "feel" the play and "flow"... trust my gut, pull the trigger and arrive with bad intentions.
...Agile, hostile, mobile on 3!!!
F!!!! Now I am dying to go run through someone (Terry Tate Style) without getting in trouble. :)
oh well, I guess I will read this memo about TPS Reports.

Indiana, not attacking your post at all. Just saying it could be a coin toss regarding effectiveness.
 
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jp1 said:
No to discount the seriousness of your post, but I wanted to draw attention to the awesome contraction that you used.. WHO'RE. Im assuming that is who are.
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'One in every crowd. Yes? Contractions allow for better alliterations of common pronouncements; usually done so more to depict regional nuances. But, in the case of the two words who are being contracted into the singularly pronounced word who're, general American slang is the region which utilizes this generally accepted usage. I've never been questioned by any of my publishers over contracting words in this manner---due mostly to the accepted propriety of the applied verbiage. Get it? What would be the response of your publishers? How's 'bout stickin' to the subject?
 
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Remy said:
I'm a little surprised to see the continuing call by people not claiming to be MDs, not claiming expertise in treating blood clots, totally unfamiliar with Trey's personal health chart to decide for him and the general public what his future is. Medical advancements continue, what occurred back then may not apply now, Trey's clots may be entirely different than your own if you're one claiming blood clots. A reminder we had a similar squad of VN troops which showed up last year just like now announcing Trey would never play again ... ... ... only to see him take the field and play again. My ask is a little respect, do not make speculations about Trey's health or future. If and when he decides to divulge his future plans simply support him, just stop the nonsense about how it is going to go unless Trey has told you himself.
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Who’s “deciding”? These are personal accounts of people familiar with the issue. He and his family make his DECISIONS but playing football requires his DOCTORS agree. As for people on this MESSAGE BOARD talking about the subject? Can’t help you with that one.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
He is done. Blood clots in the lungs that returned in less than a year? He is on blood thinners, possibly for life. Contact sports is over for Trey Smith. I hate it for him. I hope he can live a full, healthy happy life.
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How do know? Wasn't it just a week or so ago we read that he is going to try to play next year? I mean, I would guess he's done too, but I'd never be so arrogant as to confirm it.
 
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Remy said:
I'm a little surprised to see the continuing call by people not claiming to be MDs, not claiming expertise in treating blood clots, totally unfamiliar with Trey's personal health chart to decide for him and the general public what his future is. Medical advancements continue, what occurred back then may not apply now, Trey's clots may be entirely different than your own if you're one claiming blood clots. A reminder we had a similar squad of VN troops which showed up last year just like now announcing Trey would never play again ... ... ... only to see him take the field and play again. My ask is a little respect, do not make speculations about Trey's health or future. If and when he decides to divulge his future plans simply support him, just stop the nonsense about how it is going to go unless Trey has told you himself.
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Well seeing as how they're in his lungs for the second time in a year, I'd say he'll be on thinner for the rest of his life. I've had my fair share of clots, granted I'm not a college football player and in shape like Trey would be, but if this kid steps foot on the football field it'll he nothing short of a miracle. I'm cheering for him to beat this, for more reasons than football but if he is able to play next year they have came a lot further in 10 years from a medical standpoint than I ever thought they would. Even on thinners, there's no guarantee the kid doesn't throw more clots to lungs even though the risk is reduced significantly. I've dealt with my clots since I was 16, I'm now 29 and on thinners the rest of my life after my second bout with them. Some aren't actually speculating and offering uneducated opinions. Some of us, while we may not have Trey's chart sat in front of us, know from the unfortunate experience of having dealt with them ourselves.

All that said, I genuinely hope Trey does what's best for himself. His health is all he's got at the end of the day. Football means nothing in the grand scheme of it all.
 
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butchna said:
Who’s “deciding”? These are personal accounts of people familiar with the issue. He and his family make his DECISIONS but playing football requires his DOCTORS agree. As for people on this MESSAGE BOARD talking about the subject? Can’t help you with that one.
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What is it about the declaratve statement, "He is done." that you do not understand as a conclusion?
 
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Vol$_Deep_11_9 said:
Well seeing as how they're in his lungs for the second time in a year, I'd say he'll be on thinner for the rest of his life. I've had my fair share of clots, granted I'm not a college football player and in shape like Trey would be, but if this kid steps foot on the football field it'll he nothing short of a miracle. I'm cheering for him to beat this, for more reasons than football but if he is able to play next year they have came a lot further in 10 years from a medical standpoint than I ever thought they would. Even on thinners, there's no guarantee the kid doesn't throw more clots to lungs even though the risk is reduced significantly. I've dealt with my clots since I was 16, I'm now 29 and on thinners the rest of my life after my second bout with them. Some aren't actually speculating and offering uneducated opinions. Some of us, while we may not have Trey's chart sat in front of us, know from the unfortunate experience of having dealt with them ourselves.

All that said, I genuinely hope Trey does what's best for himself. His health is all he's got at the end of the day. Football means nothing in the grand scheme of it all.
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I hear and understand what you are saying. Most likely Trey's career is at serious risk, just like it was last year. Being a patient with clots sitting there on one end of the examination table does not qualify one to make medical determinations about a different person with clots. If you're claiming you're an MD with treating that specialty, that is a different thing. I just find it very distasteful andf disrespectful people writing Trey off just like they did last year, when HE has not decided his career is over yet. There may be something new or different out there making his outcome different from your own, respect that is all I'm asking everybody to do when it comes to this young man.
 
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Behr said:
How do know? Wasn't it just a week or so ago we read that he is going to try to play next year? I mean, I would guess he's done too, but I'd never be so arrogant as to confirm it.
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I had your take when this first occurred and all the fatalistic declarations were issued on here...mainly because I remembered Tommie Frazier’s situation with Nebraska and he’s still scoring TD’s on Florida. For them to reoccur so shortly after he was cleared doesn’t need arrogance to come up with the same conclusion as BOT. Maybe medical miracles happen but his body’s telling him to take a different path imo.
 
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Remy said:
I hear and understand what you are saying. Most likely Trey's career is at serious risk, just like it was last year. Being a patient with clots sitting there on one end of the examination table does not qualify one to make medical determinations about a different person with clots. If you're claiming you're an MD with treating that specialty, that is a different thing. I just find it very distasteful andf disrespectful people writing Trey off just like they did last year, when HE has not decided his career is over yet. There may be something new or different out there making his outcome different from your own, respect that is all I'm asking everybody to do when it comes to this young man.
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I give a **** about his career at this point. Ask CJ Spiller’s family what the risks are worth. Really trying not to flame you man, but RESPECT goes both ways. Neither of us have a say in his future, at least one of us has experience with the subject if not the exact same condition
 
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