Top DB in SEC ‘Kamal Hadden’

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That South Carolina game last year is still hanging over him. Couldn’t stop anyone and was talking trash to opposing players, coaches, fans even though we were in the process of getting waxed. Nothing worse than someone talking trash while they are getting their butts handed to them.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
What is the issue with Hadden that no one likes?
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I think there are two things that turned folks off to Hadden early on:

1. He is not very sportsmanlike. Play hard, play fierce, play ferocious, but play like a grown man who respects himself and those around him. He doesn't do that.

2. Early on, his mouth was writing checks his body couldn't cash. His skill sets may be catching up, making it defensible for him to talk a little trash. The better he plays, the more he'll be forgiven for being cocky.

So it started with two problems. By hard work, he may be overcoming one. He needs to use his brain, get some values, to overcome the other.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
What is the issue with Hadden that no one likes? He has shown he is one of the top DB’s in the country and the SEC, and is having a fabulous year so far. So I ask, why was he booed before the game even started when he was being introduced?

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He definitely has improved this year. Being cocky is a plus. Trash talking is a part of sports. Players at all levels talk trash, even if they're getting waxed. You definitely want your defense to have an attitude.

Hell, WGWTFA is ingrained into Volnation lexicon.
 
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VolPack22 said:
That South Carolina game last year is still hanging over him. Couldn’t stop anyone and was talking trash to opposing players, coaches, fans even though we were in the process of getting waxed. Nothing worse than someone talking trash while they are getting their butts handed to them.
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No one on our defense could stop anyone last year in the USC game. I want a player that’s gonna fight till the end no matter what the score is. He was upset and had raw emotions going through him. He had a bad game but he didn’t just roll over and be bullied.

Trash talking is part of the game and sometimes it can get to a point where it’s a distraction. But when the other team is talking trash even when the score is out hand, what do you want him to do? I would be more disappointed at him if he just tucked his tail and ran away from USC players when they was talking and not say anything back.

In the end I would want Hadden in the Fox hole with me if my back was against the wall and only way out was to fight your way out. Regardless of score he is true to who he is and is gonna keep the fight going.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I think there are two things that turned folks off to Hadden early on:

1. He is not very sportsmanlike. Play hard, play fierce, play ferocious, but play like a grown man who respects himself and those around him. He doesn't do that.

2. Early on, his mouth was writing checks his body couldn't cash. His skill sets may be catching up, making it defensible for him to talk a little trash. The better he plays, the more he'll be forgiven for being cocky.

So it started with two problems. By hard work, he may be overcoming one. He needs to use his brain, get some values, to overcome the other.
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Accurate. I'm not ant-'Kamal and I hate that people boo him, but this is what turned me off. For me, it's not much about his quality of play. When he was pulling that stuff against USC (and UF) when his team is struggling, it comes off bad, imo. If my team is getting cooked, I am not celebrating the slightest thing, much less running my mouth or starting junk.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
He definitely has improved this year. Being cocky is a plus. Trash talking is a part of sports. Players at all levels talk trash, even if they're getting waxed. You definitely want your defense to have an attitude.

Hell, WGWTFA is ingrained into Volnation lexicon.
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Exactly If those fans thought he was an elite, lock down corner, they would LOVE him talking trash. He would be a fan favorite, because of his confidence.

The reason he was booed is because we have alot of fans who practice an image-maintenance process referred to in psychology as 'cutting off reflected failure'. In short, these fans are losers whose own self-esteem hinges on the success of their favorite sports team. And when the team loses, they distance themselves from the players as a coping technique.
 
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I just see a player who is consistently out of position, constantly interferes and doesn't play smart. He should have been flagged on that long third down pass 'breakup' against SC, running right through the guy. He looked downright stoned (as in high on weed) against Florida, he was so lost in coverage and seemingly unaware what was happening. He didn't even make an attempt to tackle the runner who blew past him for the long touchdown - like he wasn't yet aware of the situation. He is always late or way off the receiver. I just don't see the tackling or toughness. He got a lucky trash pick-6 on an overthrow where again he was way off the receiver, but fortunately so was the ball. I just see a lot of mouth and swagger, but not much awareness. He plays like he's stoned.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
No one on our defense could stop anyone last year in the USC game. I want a player that’s gonna fight till the end no matter what the score is. He was upset and had raw emotions going through him. He had a bad game but he didn’t just roll over and be bullied.

Trash talking is part of the game and sometimes it can get to a point where it’s a distraction. But when the other team is talking trash even when the score is out hand, what do you want him to do? I would be more disappointed at him if he just tucked his tail and ran away from USC players when they was talking and not say anything back.

In the end I would want Hadden in the Fox hole with me if my back was against the wall and only way out was to fight your way out. Regardless of score he is true to who he is and is gonna keep the fight going.
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Whenever you are getting beat by 30 and you are talking then you are going to be laughed at. It’s like that in any sport. You hit a solo home run and you are down by 10 runs in the 9th inning and you act like you just hit a walk off then you are going to be laughed at. You hit a deep three or a dunk and you celebrate like you just hit a game winning shot whenever you are down by 50 then you are going to be laughed off the court. I’m not saying he wasn’t fighting and I don’t boo our players but watching him do what he did in that USCjr game last year was embarrassing for himself, the coaches and the program. It’s pretty hard to argue that.
 
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Probably because he sucked last year along with the others but loved to trash talk, not turn around just run thru guys and didn't play fantastic against UF, the only team that mattered in the first 4 games.
 
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Old Geezer said:
I just see a player who is consistently out of position, constantly interferes and doesn't play smart. He should have been flagged on that long third down pass 'breakup' against SC, running right through the guy. He looked downright stoned (as in high on weed) against Florida, he was so lost in coverage and seemingly unaware what was happening. He didn't even make an attempt to tackle the runner who blew past him for the long touchdown - like he wasn't yet aware of the situation. He is always late or way off the receiver. I just don't see the tackling or toughness. He got a lucky trash pick-6 on an overthrow where again he was way off the receiver, but fortunately so was the ball. I just see a lot of mouth and swagger, but not much awareness. He plays like he's stoned.
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He has had like 3 PIs this year. One was not a PI. He's winning me back. He's played hard last two games. I think he has learned. Prolly got humbled some after Florida. He seems to be doing better. I think he's our most talented kid out there.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I’ve been defending him the whole time. I want corners with extreme confidence and short memories, so I have no issue with talking trash regardless of the score
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Even when the score is partially his fault? He has the potential and is playing really well now.
 
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