Too much ice

#11,053
#11,053
hog88 said:
Have you noticed that he only posts half the story?
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No. I noticed that all of these videos that make ICE look terrible start at exactly the time ICE takes action, but do not include the context of what they may or may not be reacting to.


  • Portray the target government as illegitimate, authoritarian, corrupt, or “fascist.”
  • Front-load allegations: accuse incumbent of planning the crimes the opposition intends to commit (rigging, regression, dictatorship).
  • Fund and train NGOs, student groups, and opposition politicians to repeat a unified message.
  • Create/amplify a unifying symbol or theme (e.g., Orange Man Bad).
  • Manufacture an electoral crisis.
  • Street mobilization.
  • Public appeals to and moral blackmail of the military and police: “You’re with the people, not the regime.”
  • Promises of immunity, future positions for defectors.
  • Threats to those who support target government.
  • Provoke a response, flood media with images of “peaceful protesters” being attacked.
  • International legitimation as foreign governments and media recognizes opposition leaders as “legitimate” authority.
  • Sanctions, frozen assets, diplomatic isolation applied to sitting government.
  • New elections scheduled under international supervision.
 
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#11,057
#11,057
hog88 said:
Do you think she was just driving down the road minding her own business when they cut her off?
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Muh. She was filming. But the rest of the video doesn't exist, so apparently she wasn't filming what led up to it. Just after they raced her down for filming them.


DinDueNuttin.
 
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GAVol said:
No doubt about it. ICE hasn’t done itself any favors but the amount of propaganda and organized chaos going on right now is off the charts.
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Propaganda on which side, LOL? Do you mean the outright bald faced lies by the entire Trump admin?

There is no trust with the feds. They recklessly break the law every day as policy. There is no trust in bill of rights protections right now. They're militarizing our streets with masked agents who pepper spray peaceful protesters that are on the sidewalk. And if they kill our neighbors, they'll do everything they can to get away with it.

But the organized chaos of the resistance....

Buddy, our founders went to war for less. The people are supposed to be organized chaos. That's a great way to explain the market, for example. The government is organized chaos right now, and that's not how it's supposed to be.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Yea I saw that...and had local Leo been cooperating she would have been arrested for stalking as she was following those specific agents all day..which is against the law under the stalking laws if local LEOS weren't political hacks.
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Following LEOs around and recording them doing their jobs in public, is a 1st amendment protected activity, but please, do show the Minnesota statute that says otherwise.

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WoodsmanVol said:
And here I am being right handed. :cool:
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Be consistent. I know you like border control. Due to the last administration allowing millions into the country and flying over tens of thousand more from high risk nations we now have an immigration crisis. The fix will cause a little heartache. Buckle up buttercup.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Be consistent. I know you like border control. Due to the last administration allowing millions into the country and flying over tens of thousand more from high risk nations we now have an immigration crisis. The fix will cause a little heartache. Buckle up buttercup.
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Huh??? Yes, I like border control. Not because of your blind blaming previous administrations, but because of my previous states of how I don't want my taxes spent. AND from living out west where I saw up close personal what some of these people are like once they get settles here. It's not a headache. And as for the "other" nations immigrating crisis, it is in large part due to westerners going into other countries, dismantling the culture, their economy, selling them guns, poisoning their leaders with corruption bribes, and more that the problem making them flee their homes exist. And you know it but would rather ignore it.
 
#11,073
#11,073
WoodsmanVol said:
Huh??? Yes, I like border control. Not because of your blind blaming previous administrations, but because of my previous states of how I don't want my taxes spent. AND from living out west where I saw up close personal what some of these people are like once they get settles here. It's not a headache. And as for the "other" nations immigrating crisis, it is in large part due to westerners going into other countries, dismantling the culture, their economy, selling them guns, poisoning their leaders with corruption bribes, and more that the problem making them flee their homes exist. And you know it but would rather ignore it.
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I haven't looked at all the reasons for the disastrous results of unfettered immigration in Europe, but we know it has turned out to be just that. Some of it is purposeful from Islamic regions.

However, the initial point you made about tax dollars is an important one. Government is supposed to be fiscally responsible but here they are taking our tax dollars and funding programs for illegals or massive fraud is happening making the culprits richer than we'll ever sniff.
 
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